Majority of Muslims = Complete Idiots...thoughts?

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So even after the US publicly announced its disagreement w/ the printing of the cartoons (which was a pussy move anyways, but I digress...), Muslims still find the need to blame the US for something that it's 100% not involved in AND even took the Muslim community's side on this! These people are complete fucking idiots. This whole thing about "Islam is mostly a peaceful religion, it's only a few bad apples" is becoming more and more disproven by the day. This is a group of people who are complete idiots and are filled w/ violence and rage which is practically all the time completely unwarranted and unprovoked. The Muslim world sickens me...grow up ya bunch of wankers!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185329,00.html

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JAKARTA, Indonesia — Hundreds of Muslims protesting caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad tried to storm the U.S. Embassy on Sunday, smashing the windows of a guard post but failing to push through the gates. Several people were injured.

Pakistani security forces, meanwhile, sealed off the capital of Islamabad to block a planned mass demonstration and fired tear gas and gunshots to chase off protesters. In Turkey, tens of thousands gathered in Istanbul chanting slogans against Denmark, Israel and the United States.

Protests over the cartoons, which first appeared in a Danish newspaper in September and have been republished in other European publications and elsewhere, have swept across the Muslim world, growing into mass outlets for rage against the West in general, and Israel and the United States in particular.

Christians also have become targets. Pakistani Muslims protesting in the southern city of Sukkur ransacked and burned a church Sunday after hearing accusations that a Christian man had burned pages of the Koran, Islam's holy book.

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Yup, you are right. Because some muslims want to encite violence, I now hate them all.

Ya know what? After I saw the riots in LA, I decided I would hate all blacks too.

Alternately, you could know thw whole story. For instance, at the Danish embassy burning there were TWO groups: one was a peaceful protest, the other were people who wre using the protest as a way to destroy.

It does not matter what group of people there are in the world. They all have their idiots. But codemning them all for the actions of some just makes you as bad as the muslims who blindly hate Americans.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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Yeah yeah, so I was a little overzealous and pissed...I know not ALL Muslims are bad. However, with all the protests going on in SEVERAL regions of the world, this does show that a LARGE number of them are complete idiots (either by thier own beliefs or by blindly following some other douchebag).

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Yeah, we need to enlist Rodney King to go on a world tour to preach the message of peaceful co-existence.

Things have really gone down hill since the end of the Cold war.

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[billvon 3,111]

>However, with all the protests going on in SEVERAL regions of the
>world, this does show that a LARGE number of them are complete idiots . . .
Aren't you one of the people who often complains that the media only shows the bad stuff going on in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, and that most of the activity going on there is really good? Perhaps applying that observation less selectively is in order.

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Aren't you one of the people who often complains that the media only shows the bad stuff going on in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, and that most of the activity going on there is really good?

Well as we all know, bad media sells better than good. I never argued that most activity over there is good, I argued that there's a lot of good COALITION activity going on over there...i.e. schools being built, helping children, creating jobs, etc. That kind of stuff the media doesn't care about. It pisses me off that they leave out all of that stuff we're doing and just focus on some bullshit reports that a JDAM killed a bunch of women and children. So no, there is no selectiveness in this observation.

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>So no, there is no selectiveness in this observation.

Fair enough. In that case, you should probably acknowledge that 99.99% of Muslims would never riot over a comic; you just hear about the JDAM's (in this case, rioters) via the media.

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YAWN.....Whatever.

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First of all, I don't think Islam is the ONLY stupid religion in the world, we have a bit of religious stupidity right here at home as well.

But the average Muslim in the Third World doesn't have much of an education either and what little education they might have usually is from religious schools. So they're highly susceptable to manipulation by their religious authorities in a way that can't even be imagined by Americans or Europeans.

It's sad that Islam has let itself fall so far from a time when it made real contributions to the sciences, to mathematics (they invented the numbers we use), medicine, the arts and architecture. But what have they done in centuries, aside from killing other people, killing each other, and abusing their women, who they treat like livestock ?

Now this President of Iran is openly declaring that he hates our western culture - his words, not mine. And for the third or fourth week in a row, they're raising holy hell about some fucking cartoons printed in Denmark of all places ? They want to burn down the U.S. Embassy in Indonesia because of some cartoons published last month in Denmark ? I don't think so. This a firestorm being created by some very evil and devious people, manipulating a mass of uneducated people. Obviously we can't let a bunch of rabid hothead like this start building nukes.

Hate to say it, but I think a worldwide war between Islam and the West is already begun, or maybe it's just a continuation of the one that ended in the 16th century. It's a war of their choosing. They seem to want one, even nuclear war, but I don't think they're going to like it when they get one. Because there's no doubt who's going to lose it and it's going to be horrible.

But I no longer know what else to do. I'm not a Muslim, I'ma Westerner. I'm a Christian by heritage, if not strictly by belief. They would think nothing of killing me or my family, just for who we are. So if the shit hits the fan, I have to unplug the human connection and start thinking the same way about them. It sucks, but that's the way it is. If the Muslims want to be our enemies, then they're our enemies and easygoing old hippie Tom doesn't like them anymore. Maybe the sooner we get this nasty business over with the better for all of us, the living and the dead.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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I agree with much of what you say - however -

>Now this President of Iran is openly declaring that he hates our western culture -

And we said the same thing about communism. Which was more politics than really hating Joe Russian.

>but I think a worldwide war between Islam and the West is already begun,
> or maybe it's just a continuation of thhe one that ended in the 16th
>century.

That may well be true, but it takes two to have a war. Keep in mind how we won the Cold War; by not fighting it.

>It's a war of their choosing. They seem to want one, even nuclear war,
>but I don't think they're going to like it when they get one. Because
>there's no doubt who's going to lose it and it's going to be horrible.

Really? Think a nuclear weapon detonated over Tikrit will kill as many people as a dirty bomb in Manhattan? No one wins that game.

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Yeah yeah, so I was a little overzealous and pissed...I know not ALL Muslims are bad. However, with all the protests going on in SEVERAL regions of the world, this does show that a LARGE number of them are complete idiots (either by thier own beliefs or by blindly following some other douchebag).

You may be seing a lot of protesting but that dosent mean they represent the majority, general speaking when people are happy or at least content or neautral on a subject they just try to live there own lives. You only hear from the people that are pissed off.

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In that case, you should probably acknowledge that 99.99% of Muslims would never riot over a comic; you just hear about the JDAM's (in this case, rioters) via the media.

Ok ok....but what about the fact that in the last half century, practically the only group bringing violence, hate, rage, etc. by way of words AND action in this large of scale has been Muslims? When's the last time you saw thousands of Christian's rioting? When's the last time Jews, Budhists, even Atheists, massed to spew violence and hate against others for no good reason?

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Much agreed tbrown.

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Well maybe majority is too strong in this case...but the point lies on the fact that you only see thousands of Muslims rioting, blaming others for nothing, touting violence and hate which turns to action. Give me another group who has gone so far as the Muslim community in any recent time. I'd say the last time this crap happened was the Crusades. Now it's the same thing, but with Muslims. So as tbrown put it, they want war and enemies, so we have no choice but to smash them. Despite all this majority stuff...there are still FAR TOO MANY Muslims who align w/ this crap. Maybe it's not a majority, but it's an incredibly large amount of the Islamic populus to call it "a few bad apples."

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>but what about the fact that in the last half century, practically the
>only group bringing violence, hate, rage, etc. by way of words AND action
>in this large of scale has been Muslims?

The Hutus killed a MILLION Tutsis in Rwanda in 100 days; that's 10,000 people a DAY. What Muslim group has done that?

The Tamil Tigers, an atheist group, has killed around 50,000. We tend to notice Muslims only because a Muslim extremist group attacked us in 2001. But on the scale of the last half century, 9/11 doesn't even make it into the top 10.

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Yeah yeah, so I was a little overzealous and pissed...I know not ALL Muslims are bad. However, with all the protests going on in SEVERAL regions of the world, this does show that a LARGE number of them are complete idiots (either by thier own beliefs or by blindly following some other douchebag).

What exatly qualifies as a large number, 1%, 2%, 50+%
Just because there are SOME does not incite most, or even a large portion. I suppose that because there are the back panthers (SOME being known for violence) then a large potion of Blacks are Idiots. Or maybe because there is such thing as the KKK, a large number of protestants are idiots. Or maybe because there is there are militant russians and french, and english, and spanish, and jewish and muslime, and catholic, and hindu, and janeist, and budist, and anarchist, and every other sect that has ever had a "large" violent faction, that we must all be idiots. The fact is the only people who are idiots are those that single out groups differnt from themselves, and blame them for doing things differently, and calling them idiots. STOP BEING SUCH A BIGGOT!

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In that case, you should probably acknowledge that 99.99% of Muslims would never riot over a comic; you just hear about the JDAM's (in this case, rioters) via the media.

Ok ok....but what about the fact that in the last half century, practically the only group bringing violence, hate, rage, etc. by way of words AND action in this large of scale has been Muslims? When's the last time you saw thousands of Christian's rioting? When's the last time Jews, Budhists, even Atheists, massed to spew violence and hate against others for no good reason?

I'll go even further after reading this one. The last time i saw christians, riots against vietnam, riots agaisnt the WTO in seattle, and in Cancun. The last time i saw jews, every day the same as muslims in the same place, just not publicised, the last time i saw budhists, the protest in chine from the college age against thier government, also not publicised. By no means are the muslims the only ones being violent and protesting, not in the last century, not in the last deccade, not in the last year. Before making a very broad statement make sure you know what the f you are talking about first.

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Hutus - Yes, forgive me bill...I did complete space that one.

Tamil Tigers - Didn't know about them.

Point taken Bill, but nonetheless with a grain of salt. I think it can be safely said that Islam is much more threatening to the world as a whole than the Hutus or Tamil Tigers.

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Well my point was more explained a few posts up. As of now, it's relatively only Muslims who are protesting violently as well as leading militaristic campaigns against anyone who doesn't share their exact beliefs, in the shear thousands. No other group is doing what Islam is doing at this point in time. Thus comparatively, it's LARGE groups of Muslims who are causing the majority of the directed violence in the world.

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The last time i saw christians, riots against vietnam, riots agaisnt the WTO in seattle, and in Cancun

We're those riots comprised of people violently attacking others, embassies, etc. who had nothing to do w/ what they were rioting about? Those were peaceful for the most part in case you didn't know.

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By no means are the muslims the only ones being violent and protesting

Yeah there's knuckleheads from everywhere doing this crap...but guess what, out of all the people violently protesting for no good reason, 95% of them are Muslim...lets put it that way.

Guess you're the one who doesn't know what the f he's talking about, eh? Or am I full of crap b/c your professor tells you I am?

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>I think it can be safely said that Islam is much more threatening to
> the world as a whole than the Hutus or Tamil Tigers.

Islam is just more threatening to US. The Hutus have already killed many times more people than the Muslim extremists have so far in the time period you speak of. It's all about where you live. If you live in Sri Lanka, the tigers are the greatest threat. A Jew fears Palestinians, a Palestinian thinks the Jewish government is the greatest threat, and the Iraqis think the US is the country most likely to kill their kids. That's one disadvantage of the local perspective - all too often it's easy to overgeneralize based on one's own experience.

The only person who ever physically attacked me was from Manhattan (I think.) It would be silly for me to think that tall black people from Manhattan are the biggest threat to my safety as a result of that incident - but some people generalize 9/11 the same way.

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Islam is just more threatening to US. The Hutus have already killed many times more people than the Muslim extremists have so far in the time period you speak of. It's all about where you live. If you live in Sri Lanka, the tigers are the greatest threat. A Jew fears Palestinians, a Palestinian thinks the Jewish government is the greatest threat, and the Iraqis think the US is the country most likely to kill their kids. That's one disadvantage of the local perspective - all too often it's easy to overgeneralize based on one's own experience.

Oh, please!!

Muslims are threatening to Russia, Britain, France, Spain, Denmark, the Phillipines, Australia, Israel, China etc.

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Exactly. London bombings, Spain's train, Islam threatening to wipe Israel off the map, 9/11, Islam's strangle hold on SE Asia, etc. There's some examples of multiple countries affected by Islam's rage.

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Exactly. London bombings, Spain's train, Islam threatening to wipe Israel off the map, 9/11, Islam's strangle hold on SE Asia, etc. There's some examples of multiple countries affected by Islam's rage.

I also forgot to add India and most of SE Asia, and even though it is a mostly muslim country, Indonesia.

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