Gravitymaster 0 #51 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteYou should apply your anger towards the limp dicks in the Democratic Party like Reid, Pelosi and Schumer Wow you really must be a Beltway insider if you have information like that ....who would have imagined Pelosi had one of those. Come on, cut me some slack. It sounded better than limp tits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #52 February 22, 2006 Quote>As long as these people continue to call the shots, the Dems will continue to lose elections. Problem is that when presented with a choice between a 'limp dick' and a corrupt, pro-torture career bureaucrat, many will choose the less corrupt option. Which is why the GOP is very, very worried about elections over the next few years. They've giving people a choice between corruption and indecisiveness. I can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them other than "we aren't as bad as them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #53 February 22, 2006 QuoteOn the positive side, the Nixon administration no longer looks so bad in comparison.... I don't know. Sure seems like we were blowing up more people and loosing more of our own under him. Watergate probably saved a lot more. At least our security wasn't an issue with him unless you got drafted. Overall, I don't think he was as vain as Bush.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #54 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteOn the positive side, the Nixon administration no longer looks so bad in comparison.... I don't know. Sure seems like we were blowing up more people and loosing more of our own under him. Watergate probably saved a lot more. At least our security wasn't an issue with him unless you got drafted. Overall, I don't think he was as vain as Bush. LBJ was the asshole that dug us in to Vietnam and refused to pull out even when he knew there was no way to win. Nixon: - Accepted reality and pulled us out of Vietnam. - Normalized relations with the largest county on the planet, (mainland China). - Had the last real balanced budget. (Ignoring the recent fudging where administrations use the social security fund to mask the deficit.) Now what has Dubya accomplished other than alienating every other country in the world???"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #55 February 22, 2006 QuoteI can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them other than "we aren't as bad as them." That is so depressingly true on the national level . Not state or local, but dang we have a lot of chimeras at the national level. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #56 February 22, 2006 QuoteYou should apply your anger towards the limp dicks She was.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #57 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them other than "we aren't as bad as them." That is so depressingly true on the national level . Not state or local, but dang we have a lot of chimeras at the national level. Wendy W. Hey, I'm not sure that's so bad. The Chimera was a mythical awesome fire-breathing monster with the head of a lion, the body of a goat, and the tail of a serpent. Both liberals and conservatives could have fun with this definition for the next 30 posts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #58 February 22, 2006 >I can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections . . . . Methinks you may need to find some more friends in the GOP! Elections raise GOP worries about Bush, values, exurbs http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20051109-1326-election-analysis.html Bush's Problems Have GOP Worried http://pages.zdnet.com/trimb/id256.html GOP Worries Ethics Issue May Hurt Party in '06 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/05/AR2005060501223.html Newsview: Bush's Problems Has GOP Worried http://gnn.tv/headlines/3408/Newsview_Bush_s_Problems_Has_GOP_Worried GOP's storm warning http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/11/Columns/GOP_s_storm_warning.shtml >as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them . . . So your reason that people will elect Republicans is that they are not as bad as Democrats? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #59 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them other than "we aren't as bad as them." That is so depressingly true on the national level . Not state or local, but dang we have a lot of chimeras at the national level. Wendy W. beat me to it. Reps have a choice of lesser of two evils. Dems can't even beat that. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #60 February 22, 2006 QuoteLittle reading material I knew would interest you. http://www.indystar.com/...INION/602170426/1002 That Hackett fellow sounds like the kind of guy that would get my vote any day. Pathetic that the democratic leadership would turn on him like that -- they probably felt threatened by someone who tells it like it is. Shame on Reid, and Schumer if he's responsible for it too. But realize that your party screwed McCain big time back in 2000, only in a much sleazier manner. It cuts both ways. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #61 February 22, 2006 Quote Notice the leadership of his party did NOT denigrate his service as Rove et al have done to Mc Cain and to Murtha. Or to Max Cleland. Just thought it's fair to keep his name out there, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #62 February 22, 2006 To this day I cannot understand why the Republicans went with Dubya over McCain in 2000. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #63 February 22, 2006 Quote>I can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections . . . . Methinks you may need to find some more friends in the GOP! Elections raise GOP worries about Bush, values, exurbs http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20051109-1326-election-analysis.html Bush's Problems Have GOP Worried http://pages.zdnet.com/trimb/id256.html GOP Worries Ethics Issue May Hurt Party in '06 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/05/AR2005060501223.html Newsview: Bush's Problems Has GOP Worried http://gnn.tv/headlines/3408/Newsview_Bush_s_Problems_Has_GOP_Worried GOP's storm warning http://www.sptimes.com/2005/09/11/Columns/GOP_s_storm_warning.shtml >as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them . . . So your reason that people will elect Republicans is that they are not as bad as Democrats? If you think a couple of opinion pieces by non-GOP Insiders has any significance, then you are sadly misdirected. Reporters are paid to write stories like this. If you think Tim Kaine winning in Va. had anything to do with a national trend, you are also sorely mistaken. Va. has a long history of Republican and Democratic Governors. The difference is a Va. Democrat is a very conservative Democrat. Not the looney left-wing idiots like Schumer, Kennedy, Pelosi, and Reid. Va. also one of only a few states with a 6 year term limit which allows politicians to be more focused on doing a good job as opposed to starting their re-election campaign as soon as they are elected. Kaine gave the people of Va. a reason to vote for him instead of the stone throwing done at the national level. His strategy was the same as our previous Conservative Democrat Mark Warner, who also did an excellent job imo. FWIW, I voted for Kaine. Yep, conservative me voted for a Dem because I felt he would do a better job than Kilgore and because he explain why voting for him was a good choice without the hysterics and personal attacks we see on a national level. I can find you just as many newspaper articles who say the exact opposite of the ones you present. But the truth is that the DNC has had a very poor run for over 12 years with their current strategy. I can only hope they continue with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #64 February 22, 2006 QuoteTo this day I cannot understand why the Republicans went with Dubya over McCain in 2000. Simple: because, sadly, smears and slander are effective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #65 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteLittle reading material I knew would interest you. http://www.indystar.com/...INION/602170426/1002 That Hackett fellow sounds like the kind of guy that would get my vote any day. Pathetic that the democratic leadership would turn on him like that -- they probably felt threatened by someone who tells it like it is. Shame on Reid, and Schumer if he's responsible for it too. But realize that your party screwed McCain big time back in 2000, only in a much sleazier manner. It cuts both ways. I posted that same article yesterday. It only reinforces the view I have that the Dems will continue to lose elections until they stop muzzling those in the party that want to give the voters areason to vote for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #66 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteTo this day I cannot understand why the Republicans went with Dubya over McCain in 2000. Simple: because, sadly, smears and slander are effective. Yup, both his own party competition and the Dems were scared of him. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #67 February 22, 2006 QuoteI posted that same article yesterday. I know -- I was quoting you... Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #68 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI posted that same article yesterday. I know -- I was quoting you... Ooopps sorry. I knew I'd read that before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #69 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteTo this day I cannot understand why the Republicans went with Dubya over McCain in 2000. Simple: because, sadly, smears and slander are effective. Yup, both his own party competition and the Dems were scared of him. Maybe so, but the slander against McCain, and I mean particularly during the South Carolina primary campaign which effectively crippled his race, was organized solely by and on behalf of the Bush campaign. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #70 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteOn the positive side, the Nixon administration no longer looks so bad in comparison.... I don't know. Sure seems like we were blowing up more people and loosing more of our own under him. Watergate probably saved a lot more. At least our security wasn't an issue with him unless you got drafted. Overall, I don't think he was as vain as Bush. LBJ was the asshole that dug us in to Vietnam and refused to pull out even when he knew there was no way to win. Nixon: - Accepted reality and pulled us out of Vietnam. - Normalized relations with the largest county on the planet, (mainland China). - Had the last real balanced budget. (Ignoring the recent fudging where administrations use the social security fund to mask the deficit.) Now what has Dubya accomplished other than alienating every other country in the world??? Yeah, Nixon he did all those things. There had already been enough killing without his escalated bombing campaign which stopped after Watergate. Personally, I felt betrayed the way things turned out (I wanted to win the war), but thankfully, he was stopped from bombing North Vietnam back into the Stone Age simply because the man was a liar. truth.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #71 February 22, 2006 QuoteTo this day I cannot understand why the Republicans went with Dubya over McCain in 2000.I asked a stalwart Bushie that a couple of years ago. He (and his longtime sweetie) said it was because McCain was weak, and whined whined whined. Me, I can't understand it either. But, if one is into power to show superiority, rather than commonality and consensus, Bush and Cheney would be more attractive -- if they can get through, there's nothing that can stop them. Somehow I don't think that's the spirit that the US was founded with. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #72 February 22, 2006 QuoteMaybe so, but the slander against McCain, and I mean particularly during the South Carolina primary campaign which effectively crippled his race, was organized solely by and on behalf of the Bush campaign. No kidding - it was the primary process, so the focus makes sense. Even so, the Dems also put some effort their and on most all the other primary candidates too until they could see who to REALLY focus on. (same thing the other way too). I'm not sure why this distresses you. It's S.O.P. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #73 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteI can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them other than "we aren't as bad as them." That is so depressingly true on the national level . Not state or local, but dang we have a lot of chimeras at the national level. Wendy W. Chimera is Greek for "she-goat".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #74 February 22, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI can assure you nobody I know inside the GOP is worried about winning elections as long as the Dems continue to throw stones rather than present the people with a reason to vote for them other than "we aren't as bad as them." That is so depressingly true on the national level . Not state or local, but dang we have a lot of chimeras at the national level. Wendy W. Chimera is Greek for "she-goat". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
