warpedskydiver 0 #101 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuotenor will I ever interject myself into arguments that involve a topic I am ignorant of It is always fun to watch some one state a supposed fact and in the same sentence prove himself wrong. oh wait that's right you're anti gun....so if a criminal rapes your wife and kills your children you will just get on your knees and do what you do best... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #102 February 15, 2006 Your second statement even further disproves your first statement. Never mind the multiple fallacies in this statement. In that same light: I guess it is normal for you to start talking about guns when you don't know what else to say in an argument. I'll be sure not to go quail hunting with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #103 February 15, 2006 QuoteYour second statement even further disproves your first statement. Never mind the multiple fallacies in this statement. In that same light: I guess it is normal for you to start talking about guns when you don't know what else to say in an argument. I'll be sure not to go quail hunting with you. thats cool I feel better already as I wouldn't hunt with an anti gunner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #104 February 15, 2006 Quotethats cool I feel better already as I wouldn't hunt with an anti gunner Interesting, most pro gunners I know would be more than happy to share the delights of hunting or other gun use with an anti gunner. Just so they can show them what it is like. I suggest you try and find the similarities between a mind and a parachute.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #105 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuotethats cool I feel better already as I wouldn't hunt with an anti gunner Interesting, most pro gunners I know would be more than happy to share the delights of hunting or other gun use with an anti gunner. Just so they can show them what it is like. I suggest you try and find the similarities between a mind and a parachute.... you might try and use your own advice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #106 February 15, 2006 QuoteI already posted links with counters to Lott's poor quality research. Why ever do you think Lott never got tenure at any of the many universities he peddled himself to? So, you are alleging knowledge of why he "never got tenure at any of the many universities he peddled himself to"? Did he tell you in an email? Did they? You asked me the rhetorical question, and the clear implication of it is, "Jeff, the reason he never got tenure is because of his shoddy research practices." I, and likely others, would enjoy learning how you know this is fact. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #107 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuotenor will I ever interject myself into arguments that involve a topic I am ignorant of It is always fun to watch some one state a supposed fact and in the same sentence prove himself wrong. oh wait that's right you're anti gun....so if a criminal rapes your wife and kills your children you will just get on your knees and do what you do best... LOL!! He'll probably try to "reason" with the attacker, and "understand" why he feels the "need" to commit this crime. Or he'll use his "extensive martial arts training" against someone who has a knife or a gun. Or he'll grab the nearest "improvised weapon" (fireplace poker, wine bottle, pink vibrating anal dildo...) and go on the counterattack, never realizing that a handgun would be the ideal weapon with which to do so, because it enables a person to engage an opponent without having to get within harm's range of that person. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #108 February 15, 2006 QuoteYou asked me the rhetorical question, and the clear implication of it is, "Jeff, the reason he never got tenure is because of his shoddy research practices." I, and likely others, would enjoy learning how you know this is fact. It took long enough to ask the true question. Nicely done - wish I'd have written it with that clarity. Even if it was more fun to pick at the title/ego aspect of it for the resident profs. Let's see if it gets a true response. How about it profs? It's a reasonable read of the comments bashing the guys 'credentials'. No swearing or PAs. IMO background - I know bitter profs at my home university who are angry because they don't get the attention because they don't write enough papers. Regardless of the good job they do teaching. This biased my view of the 'title' comments (maybe unfairly) to reading them as just jealousy of Lott's notoriety and that maybe he didn't get tenure, because he was traveling about and not attached to any single university out of choice, not because none would have him. Fix that impression. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #109 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteYou asked me the rhetorical question, and the clear implication of it is, "Jeff, the reason he never got tenure is because of his shoddy research practices." I, and likely others, would enjoy learning how you know this is fact. It took long enough to ask the true question. Nicely done - wish I'd have written it with that clarity. Even if it was more fun to pick at the title/ego aspect of it for the resident profs. Let's see if it gets a true response. How about it profs? It's a reasonable read of the comments bashing the guys 'credentials'. No swearing or PAs. IMO background - I know bitter profs at my home university who are angry because they don't get the attention because they don't write enough papers. Regardless of the good job they do teaching. This biased my view of the 'title' comments (maybe unfairly) to reading them as just jealousy of Lott's notoriety and that maybe he didn't get tenure, because he was traveling about and not attached to any single university out of choice, not because none would have him. Fix that impression. I suggest you take a look at the CVs of a few academic "gypsies", people with PhDs that travel around from one position to another but can't get tenure. There are lots (!) of them around. Their CVs all look much the same; visiting assistant here, visiting assistant there, visiting fellow at the other place...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #110 February 15, 2006 Quote I suggest you take a look at the CVs of a few academic "gypsies", people with PhDs that travel around from one position to another but can't get tenure. There are lots (!) of them around. Their CVs all look much the same; visiting assistant here, visiting assistant there, visiting fellow at the other place... that sort of thing develops momentum. Regardless of the initial reason, it tends to stick. Could be they're marginal. Or that they aren't interested in publishing a lot. Or that they don't get along, for reasons either within or beyond their control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #111 February 15, 2006 QuoteI suggest you take a look at the CVs of a few academic "gypsies", I suggest you answer PJ's reasonable question. Whether he makes them often or not, this one is a good one and was delivered courteously. The lazy way out is to judge one person just because you want to lump him into a general stereotype. Edit: CV - 1 how is it spelled? 2 what does that mean? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #112 February 15, 2006 CV -Curriculum Vitae Think resume only much more in depth. Or with a fancy name. I am sure I will be corrected That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #113 February 15, 2006 QuoteCV -Curriculum Vitae Think resume only much more in depth. I am sure I will be corrected latin for course of life. (I think) I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #114 February 15, 2006 Yep from Wikipedia: Curriculum Vitae is Latin for "course of life". The plural is curricula vitae, not curricula vitarum. The latter would be the genitive of content. The Latin plural would have been the former, being the genitive of possession: to an ancient Roman, "curricula vitarum" would suggest that each document described more than one life, i.e., "courses of lives" rather than the intended "courses of life." What most people would want from a plural of CV is something meaning "a number of courses, each describing a single life"; this is curricula vitae. A résumé (in North American English; often spelled resumé or resume; known as a curriculum vitae in Commonwealth English and in the academic fields in the United States; sometimes abbreviated to CV) is a document containing a summary or listing of relevant job experience and education, usually for the purpose of obtaining an interview when seeking employment. Often the résumé is the first item a potential employer encounters regarding the job seeker, and therefore a large amount of importance is often ascribed to it. Traditionally, resumes or CVs have been, like careers themselves, oriented towards what a person has accomplished thus far...... That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #115 February 16, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotenor will I ever interject myself into arguments that involve a topic I am ignorant of It is always fun to watch some one state a supposed fact and in the same sentence prove himself wrong. oh wait that's right you're anti gun....so if a criminal rapes your wife and kills your children you will just get on your knees and do what you do best... LOL!! He'll probably try to "reason" with the attacker, and "understand" why he feels the "need" to commit this crime. Or he'll use his "extensive martial arts training" against someone who has a knife or a gun. Or he'll grab the nearest "improvised weapon" (fireplace poker, wine bottle, pink vibrating anal dildo...) and go on the counterattack, never realizing that a handgun would be the ideal weapon with which to do so, because it enables a person to engage an opponent without having to get within harm's range of that person. - I agree jeff, however for home defense you just can't beat a shotgun...even and idiot knows it will blow you in half and there will be no need for an ambulance because the only doctor a shotgun victim will see is the coroner. On the street I would say a nice 9mm with good ammo revolvers are nice too because they don't leave those pesky shell casings lying around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #116 February 16, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotenor will I ever interject myself into arguments that involve a topic I am ignorant of It is always fun to watch some one state a supposed fact and in the same sentence prove himself wrong. oh wait that's right you're anti gun....so if a criminal rapes your wife and kills your children you will just get on your knees and do what you do best... LOL!! He'll probably try to "reason" with the attacker, and "understand" why he feels the "need" to commit this crime. Or he'll use his "extensive martial arts training" against someone who has a knife or a gun. Or he'll grab the nearest "improvised weapon" (fireplace poker, wine bottle, pink vibrating anal dildo...) and go on the counterattack, never realizing that a handgun would be the ideal weapon with which to do so, because it enables a person to engage an opponent without having to get within harm's range of that person. - I will not knock someone for having a martial arts background, there is a problem though of people being of the belief that martial arts will overcome any attacker. I was witness to a student who happened to be a black belt, Police officer, SWAT team leader, and instructor get into an argument. instead of listening when he was supposed to be, he was interrupting the instructor of a weapons retention seminar. when asked to come out on the mat and demonstrate his vast knowledge of self professed hand to hand combat experience, he did so resulting in the instructor getting a cheap shot to the temple. after the demo was over he was asked to try and do that again. the instructor proceeded to yank his arm out of socket and break his left leg at the knee. can you say OUCH? by the way the instructor was a guy who was a former XXX champion, and XXXXXXXX. My guess is he wasn't pleased at being hit in the temple with a fist. post edited to avoid problems for someone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #117 February 16, 2006 So the weapons-retention instructor, because he was insulted by the other guy's inattention and rudeness, felt justified in instigating a pissing contest during which he dislocated a police officer's arm and broke his leg at the knee? What's the point of this story? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #118 February 16, 2006 oh no the intructor wasn't being rude at all! he was just getting the guy to participate instead of mocking the class...the instructor was going through the instruction at half speed and the cop( to a few of us looked like he had a bit of roid rage) decided he didn't like it that his fake weapon(red plastic one) was taken from him easily. when the instructor turned he was struck from behind. His own chief made him get back in there and take his lumps! what my whole point was even if you are skilled you don't know who your getting ahold of! the cop had started off being a bit of a bully(the guy was gigantic) and he assumed the instructor was some dumb farm boy. I have been witness on a few occasions to ass kickings dished out by guys who appear to be smaller in stature, and in fact looked like nothing a self assured martial arts guy (or anyone else) would be afraid of. whacked out criminals on drugs will sometimes be more than enough for several cops to subdue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #119 February 17, 2006 Well, it sounds like the cop was the typical muscle-head asshole, but still, breaking his knee? I'm not sure that even his captain who sent him in to take his lumps was real pleased to have the guy off the roster for however many weeks or months... I'm just sayin', was a broken body part really necessitated? Was it broken inadvertently? How good was the instructor if he couldn't do a demonstration, even a pain-inducing one, that did not result in actual damage? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #120 February 17, 2006 The breaking was unintentional...we heard no pop just that he couldn't walk...actually the instructor is a hell of a nice guy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #121 February 17, 2006 personally I wonder if the roids were a contributing factor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
