Amazon 7 #76 February 14, 2006 Here in WA we have some stiff fines for infractions.. get a sturgeon measuered the wrong way and the Officers can measure it differently so it comes up short...... $300 been there and saw that...fishing laws here are extreme.. you need a law degree to look at the friggin books with all the regulations... AND then they change the seasons... at will with a moments notice... so you have to log onto thier website for the latest closures.. DAILY... but I bet.. yeah they would get a warning for that too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #77 February 14, 2006 my prediction is he will end up dying in ther hospital. At which point people will start to wonder why Cheney didn't talk to police for 14 hours. The article makes an interesting point...would "normal" people be given that same privelidge? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #78 February 14, 2006 QuoteQuoteNever heard of a 'Chute n Shoot'? do they jump out of the plane with the gun? we call those paratroopers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #79 February 14, 2006 why do you predict he will die? The doctors say he's doing fine. The "heart attack" was not a typical layman's idea of a heart attack, ie, arterial blockage. It was more like a heart palpitation. The guy did not suffer any symptoms whatsoever, & the docs wouldn't have even known it happend if he weren't hooked up to those machines etc. The doctors were saying it isn't even worth surgery to remove the BB & expect him to make a full recovery. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #80 February 14, 2006 Then I guess in the end my prediciton will be wrong....won't be the first time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,589 #81 February 14, 2006 Quoteof the law means just that...his people screwed up... but ultimately he is still responsible. Apparently that's a new stamp, and ill-publicized. The Fish & Game (or Parks & Wildlife, or whatever) department has just started enforcing it, and are doing so irregularly. The other party also didn't have that stamp. I think Cheney's scary, but, well, in this case, most people are getting the same treatment. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #82 February 14, 2006 Quotefishing laws here are extreme.. you need a law degree to look at the friggin books with all the regulations... AND then they change the seasons... at will with a moments notice... Hunting laws are the same - they have become a bureaucratic nightmare of technicalities. Thus it's real easy to forget something like that stupid tax stamp for quail, and the next thing you know, a game warden is confiscating your gun. When I first moved to Texas I was considering doing some hunting, so I took the state approved hunter safety course, even though due to my age and experience, it wasn't required of me. I wanted to learn things the right way. I was so overwhelmed with the bog of regulations, and the hundreds of ways to get into trouble by setting foot in the field with a gun, that it dissuaded me from bothering to try. The bureaucrats have suceeded in making it so difficult and fraught with peril, that it just isn't worth the trouble and risk to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #83 February 14, 2006 Amen Bro..... so the best thing I do is stop in at the local Game Department office and buy EVERYTHING.. and get the latest bulletins.. and then go have fun...but with an eye to erring on the side of EXTREME CAUTION. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GARYC24 3 #84 February 14, 2006 How about Aerosmith's rendition: "Cheney's got a gun" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yourmomma 0 #85 February 15, 2006 It's a fucking joke, and shows the true colours of people that everyone isn't enraged by this. In my 52 years of hunting I have never pointed a gun at any thing I didn't intend on killing and have rebuked friendships of those that have. The person in control of the firearm is the only one to blame, period. To be this careless while on a hunt is indicative of carelessness in other aspects of life. Something that speaks volumes on it's own. To injure a person this severely with bird shot means the guy was close, very close and Cheney was acting haphazardly at best, and without regard to the safety of others. By not identifying before he pulled the trigger he broke the NUMBER ONE RULE OF HUNTING SAFETY. Anyone on this forum who acted in a similar manner would face a minor criminal charge at best. If you support Cheney(I did) and don't believe that this is serious your more delusional than any lib who thinks my suv is a cause of/for evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craddock 0 #86 February 15, 2006 Quote Anyone on this forum who acted in a similar manner would face a minor criminal charge at best. Wrong. I read hunting incident reports quite frequently and parties are seldom charged in a case like this. It sounds to me like they are treating him similiar to others in this case. Of course I have never lived or hunted in Texas. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lummy 4 #87 February 15, 2006 QuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #88 February 15, 2006 Quotethe White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it Its good being THE BOSS... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #89 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #90 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. No, that was Teddy... All joking aside, I think I'd have needed several stiff drinks after that, too...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,151 #91 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. No, that was Teddy... All joking aside, I think I'd have needed several stiff drinks after that, too... Anyone hear a whooshing sound?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #92 February 15, 2006 QuoteI heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. Probably not...but you have to wonder about all the medication he takes for his various conditions.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites likearock 2 #93 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuote Anyone on this forum who acted in a similar manner would face a minor criminal charge at best. Wrong. I read hunting incident reports quite frequently and parties are seldom charged in a case like this. It sounds to me like they are treating him similiar to others in this case. Really? So if you accidentally shot someone during a hunting accident, the local authorities would wait 14 hours to interview you? Dream on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #94 February 16, 2006 Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloudseeker2001 0 #95 February 16, 2006 Sorry West Texas cops are not going to press any charges........... Above the law........he did not even have a current or even the correct hunting license. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craddock 0 #96 February 16, 2006 QuoteAbove the law........he did not even have a current or even the correct hunting license Now where do you get this from? Reports I read said he had the Correct and Current license. He was only missing a new stamp that people were commonly let off with a warning for not possessing. The DNR wants to add a Grouse stamp in Wisconsin. No doubt if it happens their will be old timers that have been hunting of their Sportsmans(small game, fishing, gun deer) license for so long they will have no idea about it. I am sure/hope their will be some leniency at first if this passes. What is wrong with you people? From every angle this seems as if Cheney has gotten equal treatment to ordinary citizens. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #97 February 16, 2006 I have a really simple solution... when I go in to buy my hunting license.. I buy EVERYTHING.... even stuff I dont plan on hunting.. just in case I need it. I dont bear hunt but I have shot a bear.. good thing I had the tag when the sucker just happened along. I even buy a mountain lion tag.... not that I would ever shoot a kittie.. unless the sucker was jumping at me.. better to be safe and have the tag Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #98 February 16, 2006 QuoteWhat is wrong with you people? From every angle this seems as if Cheney has gotten equal treatment to ordinary citizens. Let's say, for the sake of discussion, that you're right. So let's put this in perspective. Seems to me that if Cheney's accidental shooting got the same attention as Bill Clinton's blowjobs did, the VP would be in Leavenworth by now. Look, Cheney's getting a pass; Texas authorities aren't going to do anything to him; and his party's in power in Congress, so no committee chairman is going to harrass him with hearings or anything. So what if his opponents blow off a little steam for a week or so? The more the Cheney-backers bitch about it, the longer it stays intriguing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #99 February 16, 2006 In South Park they say you can kill anything, provided that you first say, "He's comin' right for us!!" Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites craddock 0 #100 February 17, 2006 Quote I have a really simple solution... when I go in to buy my hunting license.. I buy EVERYTHING.... even stuff I dont plan on hunting.. just in case I need it. I dont bear hunt but I have shot a bear.. good thing I had the tag when the sucker just happened along. I even buy a mountain lion tag.... not that I would ever shoot a kittie.. unless the sucker was jumping at me.. better to be safe and have the tagCrazy In the states I hunt at there is no problem shooting a Mountain lion if you are threatened. You won't get to keep the cat though. I find it hard to believe any state would charge you for defending yourself. If you say they will I think your full of shit. And why is a good thing you had the tag when the Bear just happened along? Oh because you wanted to shoot the bear? They yes no shit it good you had a tag. Or are you claiming a bear just happened along and you were threatened. Great that are willing to spend possibly thousands on ever non-resident tag if you go hunting state. I hope you are not implying everyone else should just because you do. "Just in case I need it" What a crock of shit. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. 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wmw999 2,589 #81 February 14, 2006 Quoteof the law means just that...his people screwed up... but ultimately he is still responsible. Apparently that's a new stamp, and ill-publicized. The Fish & Game (or Parks & Wildlife, or whatever) department has just started enforcing it, and are doing so irregularly. The other party also didn't have that stamp. I think Cheney's scary, but, well, in this case, most people are getting the same treatment. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #82 February 14, 2006 Quotefishing laws here are extreme.. you need a law degree to look at the friggin books with all the regulations... AND then they change the seasons... at will with a moments notice... Hunting laws are the same - they have become a bureaucratic nightmare of technicalities. Thus it's real easy to forget something like that stupid tax stamp for quail, and the next thing you know, a game warden is confiscating your gun. When I first moved to Texas I was considering doing some hunting, so I took the state approved hunter safety course, even though due to my age and experience, it wasn't required of me. I wanted to learn things the right way. I was so overwhelmed with the bog of regulations, and the hundreds of ways to get into trouble by setting foot in the field with a gun, that it dissuaded me from bothering to try. The bureaucrats have suceeded in making it so difficult and fraught with peril, that it just isn't worth the trouble and risk to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #83 February 14, 2006 Amen Bro..... so the best thing I do is stop in at the local Game Department office and buy EVERYTHING.. and get the latest bulletins.. and then go have fun...but with an eye to erring on the side of EXTREME CAUTION. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #84 February 14, 2006 How about Aerosmith's rendition: "Cheney's got a gun" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourmomma 0 #85 February 15, 2006 It's a fucking joke, and shows the true colours of people that everyone isn't enraged by this. In my 52 years of hunting I have never pointed a gun at any thing I didn't intend on killing and have rebuked friendships of those that have. The person in control of the firearm is the only one to blame, period. To be this careless while on a hunt is indicative of carelessness in other aspects of life. Something that speaks volumes on it's own. To injure a person this severely with bird shot means the guy was close, very close and Cheney was acting haphazardly at best, and without regard to the safety of others. By not identifying before he pulled the trigger he broke the NUMBER ONE RULE OF HUNTING SAFETY. Anyone on this forum who acted in a similar manner would face a minor criminal charge at best. If you support Cheney(I did) and don't believe that this is serious your more delusional than any lib who thinks my suv is a cause of/for evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #86 February 15, 2006 Quote Anyone on this forum who acted in a similar manner would face a minor criminal charge at best. Wrong. I read hunting incident reports quite frequently and parties are seldom charged in a case like this. It sounds to me like they are treating him similiar to others in this case. Of course I have never lived or hunted in Texas. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #87 February 15, 2006 QuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #88 February 15, 2006 Quotethe White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it Its good being THE BOSS... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #89 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #90 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. No, that was Teddy... All joking aside, I think I'd have needed several stiff drinks after that, too...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #91 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteInteresting they got 14 hours to make sure they had all their ducks quails in a row Interestingly enough, the White House left it up to Cheney to when and how he was going to publicly disclose it source I heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. No, that was Teddy... All joking aside, I think I'd have needed several stiff drinks after that, too... Anyone hear a whooshing sound?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #92 February 15, 2006 QuoteI heard it's because he was drunk and needed some time to sober up. Probably not...but you have to wonder about all the medication he takes for his various conditions.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #93 February 15, 2006 QuoteQuote Anyone on this forum who acted in a similar manner would face a minor criminal charge at best. Wrong. I read hunting incident reports quite frequently and parties are seldom charged in a case like this. It sounds to me like they are treating him similiar to others in this case. Really? So if you accidentally shot someone during a hunting accident, the local authorities would wait 14 hours to interview you? Dream on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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cloudseeker2001 0 #95 February 16, 2006 Sorry West Texas cops are not going to press any charges........... Above the law........he did not even have a current or even the correct hunting license. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #96 February 16, 2006 QuoteAbove the law........he did not even have a current or even the correct hunting license Now where do you get this from? Reports I read said he had the Correct and Current license. He was only missing a new stamp that people were commonly let off with a warning for not possessing. The DNR wants to add a Grouse stamp in Wisconsin. No doubt if it happens their will be old timers that have been hunting of their Sportsmans(small game, fishing, gun deer) license for so long they will have no idea about it. I am sure/hope their will be some leniency at first if this passes. What is wrong with you people? From every angle this seems as if Cheney has gotten equal treatment to ordinary citizens. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #97 February 16, 2006 I have a really simple solution... when I go in to buy my hunting license.. I buy EVERYTHING.... even stuff I dont plan on hunting.. just in case I need it. I dont bear hunt but I have shot a bear.. good thing I had the tag when the sucker just happened along. I even buy a mountain lion tag.... not that I would ever shoot a kittie.. unless the sucker was jumping at me.. better to be safe and have the tag Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #98 February 16, 2006 QuoteWhat is wrong with you people? From every angle this seems as if Cheney has gotten equal treatment to ordinary citizens. Let's say, for the sake of discussion, that you're right. So let's put this in perspective. Seems to me that if Cheney's accidental shooting got the same attention as Bill Clinton's blowjobs did, the VP would be in Leavenworth by now. Look, Cheney's getting a pass; Texas authorities aren't going to do anything to him; and his party's in power in Congress, so no committee chairman is going to harrass him with hearings or anything. So what if his opponents blow off a little steam for a week or so? The more the Cheney-backers bitch about it, the longer it stays intriguing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #99 February 16, 2006 In South Park they say you can kill anything, provided that you first say, "He's comin' right for us!!" Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #100 February 17, 2006 Quote I have a really simple solution... when I go in to buy my hunting license.. I buy EVERYTHING.... even stuff I dont plan on hunting.. just in case I need it. I dont bear hunt but I have shot a bear.. good thing I had the tag when the sucker just happened along. I even buy a mountain lion tag.... not that I would ever shoot a kittie.. unless the sucker was jumping at me.. better to be safe and have the tagCrazy In the states I hunt at there is no problem shooting a Mountain lion if you are threatened. You won't get to keep the cat though. I find it hard to believe any state would charge you for defending yourself. If you say they will I think your full of shit. And why is a good thing you had the tag when the Bear just happened along? Oh because you wanted to shoot the bear? They yes no shit it good you had a tag. Or are you claiming a bear just happened along and you were threatened. Great that are willing to spend possibly thousands on ever non-resident tag if you go hunting state. I hope you are not implying everyone else should just because you do. "Just in case I need it" What a crock of shit. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
