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Embassies burning makes bigger news than moderate muslims calling for peace. That's just the nature of news, which is why you have not, and will not hear the voice of moderate muslims.

When a large group of people care enough to express a particular viewpoint, it is simple for them to take out full-page ads in major metropolitan newspapers to do so. Muslim organizations could do something like this -- exhorting their extremist brethren to stop the violence, and explaining that they themselves condemn it -- but they are not doing it.

When a group does something like that, the taking out of the ad itself becomes a news story.

Again, the silence is deafening, as they say.

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-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

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Again, the silence is deafening, as they say.

It isn't. Plenty of Muslim leaders have publicly criticised the violence.

Besides, millions of people world wide DID stand up and march in protest of the US invasion of Iraq. Did any of you listen? Like fuck you did.

[RhondaLea 4]

I hate this thread.

Hate it.

It bespeaks the same kind of attitude that put US citizens in camps because they had the misfortune to be Japanese at a time when we were at war with the country their forebears came from.

This is an international forum. And there are Muslims who skydive who may even now be reading this thread.



I hate this thread. There's nothing funny about it.

rl

If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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I've travelled and stayed in several muslim countries and I've always been treated with respect and politeness. I've also had good experiences in Israel, Africa and a whole bunch of other places... the average guy (or girl) on the street is generally a good person regardless of thier religion.

It's a shame that the loudest most extreme and obnoxious people of each religion, society or culture are the ones that people tend to remember... most muslims aren't extremists, most christians aren't out to convert you, most americans aren't redneck bigots and not all brits have bad teeth

We're all people... can't we just respect each other a little?? C'mmon guys... play nicely???

Don't sweat the petty things... and don't pet the sweaty things!

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It's a shame that the loudest most extreme and obnoxious people of each religion, society or culture are the ones that people tend to remember... most muslims aren't extremists, most christians aren't out to convert you, most americans aren't redneck bigots and not all brits have bad teeth

Absolutely agree.

Also, most DZ.commers can string more than three words together without using a profanity and without referring to 'towelheads' and 'glass parking lots'.

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When a large group of people care enough to express a particular viewpoint, it is simple for them to take out full-page ads in major metropolitan newspapers to do so. Muslim organizations could do something like this -- exhorting their extremist brethren to stop the violence, and explaining that they themselves condemn it -- but they are not doing it.

When a group does something like that, the taking out of the ad itself becomes a news story.

Again, the silence is deafening, as they say.

Christians bomb abortion clinics. I've not seen an ad by Christian groups condemning this, nor have I seen the millions you'd like to see out on the streets protesting such behavior. So going by your logic, if I were to hate Christians just for that retarded minority, I could just as easily say that 97% of Christians are in favor of bombing abortion clinics.

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Muslims do us the kindness of keeping their hideous womenfolk fully shrouded in garments.

And you call me a bigot...
I don't know what impression you have of Muslim women, but I see some pretty attractive ones fairly often where I'm at.

If there were such an anti-extremist ad/protest like the one you're looking for, you'd still find fault with them anyway.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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Christians bomb abortion clinics. I've not seen an ad by Christian groups condemning this, nor have I seen the millions you'd like to see out on the streets protesting such behavior.

No, they don't. Those that bomb them (an extremely small # of people) may call themselves Christian, but the fact that they are doing such a thing ipso facto disqualifies them from claiming the title of Christain. Just b/c someone calls themself a Christian doesn't make it so.

And just b/c you've not seen an ad condemning this behavior doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I've seen many ads, heard many sermons condemning abortion mill bombings.

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And JP.
And Chris. And...

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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No, they don't. Those that bomb them (an extremely small # of people) may call themselves Christian, but the fact that they are doing such a thing ipso facto disqualifies them from claiming the title of Christain. Just b/c someone calls themself a Christian doesn't make it so.

doesn't the same argument go for muslims?

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No, they don't. Those that bomb them (an extremely small # of people) may call themselves Christian, but the fact that they are doing such a thing ipso facto disqualifies them from claiming the title of Christain. Just b/c someone calls themself a Christian doesn't make it so.

doesn't the same argument go for muslims?

of course it does.

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And Chris. And...

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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So which is it? Do you respect the freedom of personal choice for women such as they have in America,

That is just too funny. So, when did women in America become free to sunbath topless on the beach?

I doubt that a woman is free to flash the pilot in the US. As a matter of fact, I think it would be illegal in most states.

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And who the heck are you to judge what free women choose to do?

Many states in the US do. Men are allowed to be topless in public, women are not. How they have sex and with what implements is stipulated in certain states.

Why is it that your rules for women are better than their rules for women?

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of course it does.

Thanks, just making sure.

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I hate this thread.

Hate it.

It bespeaks the same kind of attitude that put US citizens in camps because they had the misfortune to be Japanese at a time when we were at war with the country their forebears came from.

This is an international forum. And there are Muslims who skydive who may even now be reading this thread.



I hate this thread. There's nothing funny about it.

rl

Agreed. Where's sangiro to enforce the forum rules about the mockery of entire groups of people? Isn't this supposed to the be the new and improved dz.com?

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

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of course it does.

Thanks, just making sure.

I don't quite understand what you're getting at.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

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No, they don't. Those that bomb them (an extremely small # of people) may call themselves Christian, but the fact that they are doing such a thing ipso facto disqualifies them from claiming the title of Christain. Just b/c someone calls themself a Christian doesn't make it so.

The good part of the muslim population, who happen NOT to kill people, think the same way of the extremists in their bunch.

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And just b/c you've not seen an ad condemning this behavior doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I've seen many ads, heard many sermons condemning abortion mill bombings.

I actually have heard other Christians speak out against this; I was just making a hypothetical point. Unlike the news about the bombing of the clinics, those ads and voices of Christians speaking out against the clinic bombings likely did not make it abroad, which of course would help form a rather lopsided view of the situation. Much like what is happening here.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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I don't quite understand what you're getting at.

it is an often made argument that Islam is a peaceful religion and that those muslims taking up arms and fighting are not true mulsims. Basically the same argument you just presented for various different forms of christianity.

I agree that in theory that is correct. In practice we both know that many a murder has taken place in the name of most religions around the world.

[Darius11 12]

I think it is a great thread for the same reason you think it isn’t.

Here is why.

The people who attack my posts John, PJ, a few other are the best example others can see of a totally one sided view that some in this country hold. They have no problem with the posts that are degrading to Muslims if there is a smiley but mine and a few other who do not agree with them they take the time to attack.

It is a great example of the blindness and lack of perspective that many suffer from.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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According to your profile, you have the disadvantage of actually living in a place(NYC) that puts you in contact with different people on a regular basis. So naturally you've developled some misguided impressions of these people by actually getting to know them. That's probably your biggest mistake. What you need to do is develop all your oppinions about others by what you see on TV. That way you'll have a better understanding of the people at large, rather than the skewed perception you've gotten from comming in contact with them.

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of course it does.

Thanks, just making sure.

I don't quite understand what you're getting at.

I don't think it was meant for you, but rather the really ignorant comment that masterblaster originally replied to ...

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I don't quite understand what you're getting at.

it is an often made argument that Islam is a peaceful religion and that those muslims taking up arms and fighting are not true mulsims. Basically the same argument you just presented for various different forms of christianity.

I agree that in theory that is correct. In practice we both know that many a murder has taken place in the name of most religions around the world.

Agreed. Thanks for the clarification.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

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No, they don't. Those that bomb them (an extremely small # of people) may call themselves Christian, but the fact that they are doing such a thing ipso facto disqualifies them from claiming the title of Christain. Just b/c someone calls themself a Christian doesn't make it so.

The good part of the muslim population, who happen NOT to kill people, think the same way of the extremists in their bunch.

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And just b/c you've not seen an ad condemning this behavior doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I've seen many ads, heard many sermons condemning abortion mill bombings.

I actually have heard other Christians speak out against this; I was just making a hypothetical point. Unlike the news about the bombing of the clinics, those ads and voices of Christians speaking out against the clinic bombings likely did not make it abroad, which of course would help form a rather lopsided view of the situation. Much like what is happening here.

thx for the clarification.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

[RhondaLea 4]

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Agreed. Where's sangiro to enforce the forum rules about the mockery of entire groups of people? Isn't this supposed to the be the new and improved dz.com?

The one purpose threads like these serve--for me, anyway--is to tell me who I don't want to know.

I'd rather not take the time to get to know someone and find out later that s/he holds such views, because I have no interest in being friendly with people who hold such views.

rl

Oops! Didn't see what unformed wrote. Yeah, that's it. Edited to add: Nope. Not unformed. Darius. Sorry.

If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

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Another good thing about Muslims is their very strict Sharia legal system. Thieves lose a hand. Rape victims are dismissed and publicly humilated.

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[wmw999 2,588]

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Another good thing about Muslims is their very strict Sharia legal system. Thieves lose a hand. Rape victims are dismissed and publicly humilated.

I'm thinking that would be very popular with some folks -- public beheadings, where you can really rain invective down on the guilty-guilty-guilty and really KNOW that they're dead.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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According to your profile, you have the disadvantage of actually living in a place(NYC) that puts you in contact with different people on a regular basis. So naturally you've developled some misguided impressions of these people by actually getting to know them. That's probably your biggest mistake. What you need to do is develop all your oppinions about others by what you see on TV. That way you'll have a better understanding of the people at large, rather than the skewed perception you've gotten from comming in contact with them.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[Darius11 12]

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Another good thing about Muslims is their very strict Sharia legal system. Thieves lose a hand. Rape victims are dismissed and publicly humilated.

Now it makes since you were raped by a Muslim man sorry to hear that.
I am amazed at your knowledge of the Islamic legal system.
How so many of you got so smart and knowledgeable amazes me! must be the great US public school system.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain