freethefly 6 #1 February 3, 2006 How long before the Federal Government enacts it's own medical mj program. They must know that eventually all states will allow this great medicine to those in need of it. At one time the Feds did have a compassionate use program but out of ignorance ended it. New Mexico Senate Approves Medical Cannabis Measure Santa Fe, NM: Senators overwhelmingly approved legislation this week to exempt seriously ill patients who use medical marijuana under a physician's supervision from state criminal prosecution. The Senate voted 34 to 6 in favor of the measure, which now moves to the House. If passed, Senate Bill 258 would exempt authorized patients from state criminal prosecution for the possession and use of medicinal cannabis. Qualified patients would be issued identification cards by the state Department of Health. The proposal also encourages the health department to develop a "distribution system" for medical cannabis that provides for "licensed cannabis production facilities." State Governor Bill Richardson (D) has stated that he will sign the bill. Similar legislation passed the state Senate last year but stalled in the House. To date, eleven states - Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington - have enacted laws exempting physician-supervised marijuana patients from arrest and criminal prosecution."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #2 February 3, 2006 QuoteThey must know that eventually all states will allow this great medicine to those in need of it. The gears of justice sure seem to grind slowly in this area . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #3 February 3, 2006 ...There's a new Mexico? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #4 February 3, 2006 Federal laws trump these laws, which are transparent attempts for pathetic stoners to legitimize their habit. "Great Medicine"??? How fucking asinine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #5 February 3, 2006 QuoteFederal laws trump these laws, which are transparent attempts for pathetic stoners to legitimize their habit. "Great Medicine"??? How fucking asinine. The proof is there. Ask any cancer patient who has used it. Ask any AIDS patient who has used it (I'll save you the trouble on this one. Yes, it does work and works well. No nausea, great appetite that leads to weight gain and a better outlook on life). I have not smoked any in more than 3 months and it shows from the rapid weight loss from wasting syndrome.) Why would anyone want to keep this from those who need it? Would you much rather see the sick get sicker? I take it that you have never read any of the medical journals that have documented the advances in medical mj. I take it that you know zero about mj other than what you have heard from anti mj ads. Educate yourself on the subject. Might come a day when such a drug will be a godsend for you. Your reaction to my post is childish. It also shows that you have no idea who is behind the push for medical mj. Sick and dying patients are not "pathetic stoners". As an AIDS patient I fully endorse medical mj and I am not a "pathetic stoner" as you imply. I take your comment to be an insult. Oh, and mj is not habit forming."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #6 February 3, 2006 QuoteFederal laws trump these laws, which are transparent attempts for pathetic stoners to legitimize their habit. "Great Medicine"??? How fucking asinine. Maybe when you're old enough to see someone die of cancer or MS you'll change your mind.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #7 February 3, 2006 Marinol (THC) is already available. Some stoners just want to exploit others' misery to dodge drug laws.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #8 February 3, 2006 QuoteFederal laws trump these laws, which are transparent attempts for pathetic stoners to legitimize their habit You're looking at the whole issue from afar, right? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #9 February 3, 2006 QuoteMarinol (THC) is already available. Some stoners just want to exploit others' misery to dodge drug laws. Do some more research.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #10 February 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteMarinol (THC) is already available. Some stoners just want to exploit others' misery to dodge drug laws. Do some more research. Ok...Sponsor the IIT chapter of NORML, do ya?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #11 February 3, 2006 QuoteMarinol (THC) is already available. Some stoners just want to exploit others' misery to dodge drug laws. I have used the synthetic THC Dronabinol. It is very unreliable. Again you are touching on a subject that you apparently know nothing about. Read the medical journals and then make an informed statement other than childish rhetoric."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #12 February 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteMarinol (THC) is already available. Some stoners just want to exploit others' misery to dodge drug laws. I have used the synthetic THC Dronabinol. It is very unreliable. Again you are touching on a subject that you apparently know nothing about. Read the medical journals and then make an informed statement other than childish rhetoric. The fact that you used Raoul Duke in your sig speaks to you possibly using your condition as a pretense to get stoned...Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #13 February 3, 2006 QuoteThe fact that you used Raoul Duke in your sig speaks to you possibly using your condition as a pretense to get stoned... Wow, that's one of the most callous statements in here for a while . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 February 3, 2006 QuoteFederal laws trump these laws, which are transparent attempts for pathetic stoners to legitimize their habit. "Great Medicine"??? How fucking asinine. yep you're absolutely right. in fact, things like this just make me sick. so sick I think I need to see a doctor. In New Mexico. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #15 February 3, 2006 QuoteFederal laws trump these laws, which are transparent attempts for pathetic stoners to legitimize their habit. "Great Medicine"??? How fucking asinine. Um my friend...I hate to break this too you. But there are actually quite a few uses of medical MJ. My mother died from lung cancer. During her treatments it came about to help with lack of apetite, nausea and even helped with some pain. She started smoking pot. My brother bought the pot, I bought her a kick ass looking pipe! She wasnt eating, and was loosing weight very very quickly...so this came up. She started to level out weight wise, however it was too late for her body, she was beat down way the hell too bad physically already... So before you go on saying it is just for the freaking stoners you had better realize that out side of your little world as you percive it...there might just be a real reason. Nothing here is asinine but the attidue you have against those who choose to do something you disagree with even if there is a true and just reason for it. I am not a fan of those people who use drugs on a regular basis....or alcohol for that matter. But I am a fan of something if it helps someone who is in serious need of it.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #16 February 3, 2006 Even if all it ever did was make people high and happy, I would not oppose it. I don't necessarily respect the choice to do it (recreationally), but I don't see that I (or anyone) should have a right to stop someone from doing something for pleasure if it does me no harm. Once again, we can point to the legality of alcohol, which does plenty of harm to user and public; but it's still legal. And we can point to the futility of prohibition laws, which failed miserably, with all kinds of unintendended consequences, back in the early 20th century. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #17 February 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteMarinol (THC) is already available. Some stoners just want to exploit others' misery to dodge drug laws. I have used the synthetic THC Dronabinol. It is very unreliable. Again you are touching on a subject that you apparently know nothing about. Read the medical journals and then make an informed statement other than childish rhetoric. The fact that you used Raoul Duke in your sig speaks to you possibly using your condition as a pretense to get stoned... I find your statement to be offensive and a personal attack. I do not use mj to get "stoned". When I do use mj, I use only enough to curb nausea and to bring my appetite up. Educate yourself before you start accussing people of being "pathetic stoners". http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #18 February 3, 2006 QuoteI find your statement to be offensive and a personal attack. I do not use mj to get "stoned". It may have been a bit insensitive of him to make that suggestion if he is aware of your condition, but it was far from a personal attack, as I see it. He said that it was POSSIBLE. He did not make an accusation: he merely stated that your sig line causes him to wonder. Is that not allowed? --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #19 February 3, 2006 Agree. I still, however, find it offensive. Would one say the same if my sig line was one from Carl Sagan?"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #20 February 3, 2006 QuoteMy mother died from lung cancer. During her treatments it came about to help with lack of apetite, nausea and even helped with some pain. She started smoking pot. My brother bought the pot, I bought her a kick ass looking pipe! She wasnt eating, and was loosing weight very very quickly...so this came up. She started to level out weight wise, however it was too late for her body, she was beat down way the hell too bad physically already... My younger brother died of cancer in 2000. Mj provided much relief for him throughout the chemo treatment where as the heavy narcotics only brought him down to the point of being suicidal as well as major wasting. Mj is in fact a wonderful plant that has many uses. What a shame that some cannot see this and wish to keep it from the world."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #21 February 3, 2006 QuoteAgree. I still, however, find it offensive. Would one say the same if my sig line was one from Carl Sagan? Actually, I don't know. I have to admit that I don't know who Raoul Duke is, or what he's known for. Is he a drug-use advocate or something? I don't know as Carl Sagan has some connection to recreational drug abuse that would connect use of a quote by him with the notion that you smoke pot to get high... --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #22 February 3, 2006 QuoteMarinol (THC) is already available. Some stoners just want to exploit others' misery to dodge drug laws. The medical world is virtually unanimous that smoking pot provides significantly better relief of symptoms than oral preparations for cancer patients. Would you really deny them this? Why is this such an emotional issue with you?----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #23 February 3, 2006 QuoteWhy is this such an emotional issue with you? This particular drug destroyed my family. It decimated the otherwise promising life of a sibling, and killed a cousin. To advocate its use as a medicine is like calling methamphetamine a "pick-me-up," or heroin a "mild sedative." I'm done with this thread, don't bother trying to get me to respond any further.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #24 February 3, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhy is this such an emotional issue with you? This particular drug destroyed my family. It decimated the otherwise promising life of a sibling, and killed a cousin. To advocate its use as a medicine is like calling methamphetamine a "pick-me-up," or heroin a "mild sedative." I'm done with this thread, don't bother trying to get me to respond any further. I don't need a response to this, but I want to say it: Alcohol caused my uncle, my dad's twin, to have a stroke. He can barely speak, cannot help himself, and is in a wheelchair. And he will be that way for the rest of his life. I do not promote a ban on alcohol. Making something illegal does not prevent it from destroying anyone's life. If they have the impulse to hurt themselves in such a way, they will find the means, legally or not.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #25 February 3, 2006 Marijuana killed your cousin?....hmmm that would be a medical 1st and since I cannot substantiate the death with any resource on the net or through any medical professional journals I find it hard to believe. Was your cousin killed by a 2 ton bale of awesome buds dropped on a round from a C130H? if so let me know where that was ok?...I may want to take some samples for forensic evaluation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
