warpedskydiver 0 #1 February 1, 2006 I realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. I DO NOT think it's funny, and I also believe that maybe those aforementioned individuals need to leave the United States of Amerca immediatly and never return. I also will never fail to defend my brothers in arms at any cost to myself personally even if it should cause me to lose my life. If you aren't brave enough to say it in person then shut the fuck up!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #2 February 1, 2006 QuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. I DO NOT think it's funny, and I also believe that maybe those aforementioned individuals need to leave the United States of Amerca immediatly and never return. I also will never fail to defend my brothers in arms at any cost to myself personally even if it should cause me to lose my life. If you aren't brave enough to say it in person then shut the fuck up!!! Up front - I will never make negative remarks about American service men. Isn't one of the things they swear to defend the constitution of the USA and doesn't it guarantee freedom of speech? Seems to me we honour those that defend the USA and much of the rest of the world by standing up for the same things that they swear to stand up for. Just my opinion."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 February 1, 2006 1. I didn't say I was was right or wrong. I was just stating my beliefs. 2. The U.S. Constitution applies to US Citizens. 3.If anyone should feel like they need to celebrate, approve of, wish, encourage, or facilitate the of killing of any US service member in any way shape or form please by all means SHOUT IT OUTLOUD FROM ANY COSNIPICOUS PUBLIC VENUE IN THE UNITED STATES! by the I do appreciate your point of view and it did make me reconsider my thoughts on the matter...yet they remain unchanged Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #4 February 1, 2006 Quote1. I didn't say I was was right or wrong. I was just stating my beliefs. 2. The U.S. Constitution applies to US Citizens. 3.If anyone should feel like they need to celebrate, approve of, wish, encourage, or facilitate the of killing of any US service member in any way shape or form please by all means SHOUT IT OUTLOUD FROM ANY COSNIPICOUS PUBLIC VENUE IN THE UNITED STATES! by the I do appreciate your point of view and it did make me reconsider my thoughts on the matter...yet they remain unchanged 1. I didn't say you were right or wrong either 2. I think the constitution applies to anybody on US soil regardless of citizenship. 3. Not sure why you are suggesting that people do this in a conspicuous place other than it makes them easy to sight in on which would be my first reaction too, but hopefully I would think better of it. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #5 February 1, 2006 Quote The U.S. Constitution applies to US Citizens. Actually, most of the protections in the U.S. Constitution (e.g., freedom of speech & assembly, the right to a speedy trial by jury, etc.) apply to all persons within United States territory or subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, regardless of citizenship. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #6 February 1, 2006 There goes freedom of speechWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 February 1, 2006 So have you got any examples or are you just bumping your gums?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 February 1, 2006 Taken from the 14th Amendment Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 February 1, 2006 QuoteTaken from the 14th Amendment Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. . The boldfaced text applies to everyone on US soil regardless of citizenship. Freedom of speech & assembly (1st Amend), freedom from unlawful search & seizure (4th Amend), freedom from self-incrimination (5th Amend), etc also apply w/o regard to citizenship. There are many more examples, too. A couple provisions in the US Constitution apply to US citizens, but most do not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 February 1, 2006 does it mention anywhere the right to stay here?... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 February 1, 2006 Quotedoes it mention anywhere the right to stay here?... If they're here lawfully, either with a green card or a visa, then exercising their 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech and assembly is entirely lawful. And if Congress passed a law restricting a foreigner's right to free speech while in the US legally, in most instances such a law would probably be unconstitutional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #12 February 1, 2006 Quote I realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed Yeah.........I dont like it either......and I dont understand why anyone would do that.......... but they are *protected* by OUR constitution regardless of how vile or repugnant their viewpoint is But do it in front of me in person.......I WILL exercise my freedom to disagreeMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites outrager 6 #13 February 1, 2006 QuoteI DO NOT think it's funny, and I also believe that maybe those aforementioned individuals need to leave the United States of Amerca immediatly and never return. You gloat over the video of people being killed, yet you don't want to see more video of people being killed? Dude, you're seriously twisted Either way, this board is owned by South African and is hosted in Canada. Get the hell outta here and never return! What are you doing here in the first place? Seriously, how can you be so blind and/or intellectually challenged as to imagine somebody would think it's a funny subject? The point was to show that posting any video of people being killed is inappropriate here, especially considering this is an international forum. You blowing up steam from every hole just showed up exactly why it is a bad idea. bsbd! Yuri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rasmack 0 #14 February 1, 2006 QuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests... Would that be South Africa or Canada? QuoteI also will never fail to defend my brothers in arms at any cost to myself personally even if it should cause me to lose my life. If you aren't brave enough to say it in person then shut the fuck up!!! That is fair. I respect your attitude. However, I hope you realize that there is scum found everywhere. And while I completely agree that the remarks to which you refer where tasteless in the extreme there is scum also among US servicemen, and I hope you will not take issue with me reserving the right to call 'em as I see them.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Botellines 0 #15 February 2, 2006 QuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrad 0 #16 February 2, 2006 FOOOOOTZAAAK!!!! Gaan kak in die millies! FOOOOOTZAAAK!!!! FOOOOOTZAAAK!!!!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ViperPilot 0 #17 February 2, 2006 QuoteI am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. Are you fucking kidding me? You would call me a "right winger" and yet you think I don't give a flying fuck about innocent people dying? Bullshit. It's horrible to see children, women and men killed or mamed who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I hate to see death. Nonetheless, collateral damage is a part of war that has always existed and will continue to exist for eternity. There's no way to avoid it. However, it'd sure be nice if the media would report what we ACTUALLY do instead of 1/2 stories and journalized bullshit. War sucks, people die...good and bad. But as far as collateral damage goes, we do FAR FAR less of it than the media tells everyone. But don't worry, you don't have to believe me, no one will unless they actually live it. I'm still young, but my view and feelings have changed much...I don't want to see anyone die, but at the same time, I have no fucking problem turning a bunch of terrorists into mist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #18 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. EDIT: Fuckit. Cowardly countries are not worth the effort to show them as such... P.S. If you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #19 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. EDIT: Fuckit. Cowardly countries are not worth the effort to show them as such... P.S. If you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly. Temper temper. Is your Spanish in as great shape as his English? This is NOT a US owned web site.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #20 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. EDIT: Fuckit. Cowardly countries are not worth the effort to show them as such... P.S. If you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly. Temper temper. Is your Spanish in as great shape as his English? Yes. I was hired to my current job partly to assist in serving Spanish-speaking policy holders.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 4 #21 February 2, 2006 All this for what is a patently obvious misunderstanding of the point that was being made. It's no wonder to me that people go to war. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #22 February 2, 2006 QuoteIf you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly Has it ever occured to you that different languages are used throughout the world all with different spellings and grammar? This is NOT a US based website and there are tons and tons of people who do not claim English as their mother tongue. I think you need to re-evaluate how you view the world. The world doesn't end at the US borders, it only starts to begin. Plus what's this crap about the people of Iraq being cowards? Says who ... you? Never knew you were such an expert on human behavior. If a foreign country invaded your country, what would you do? Would you fight the invaders doing whatever it is was needed to fend them off, or would you rejoice the invading country's culture and religious beliefs. I think we know the answer. You would fight them doing whatever was needed to defeat them. So why are Iraqi's cowards for fighting a foreign invader who ignored virtually every nation and went ahead said "fuck you" to the world did their own thing, invaded Iraq and are now stuck knee deep in the shit. In fact one could claim that the US is full of cowards (oh boy the shit is going to hit the fan for this comment). I mean after all the US is the only country (to date) to use the bomb only because they didn't want to pay the financial and human costs of finishing the war the conventional way. Sounds like cowardly behavior to me. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #23 February 2, 2006 Quote Plus what's this crap about the people of Iraq being cowards? Says who ... you? Actually, I was referring to: Spain España Espagne SpanienIllinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rasmack 0 #24 February 2, 2006 OK everybody. Deep breaths...HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #25 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuotedoes it mention anywhere the right to stay here?... If they're here lawfully, either with a green card or a visa, then exercising their 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech and assembly is entirely lawful. 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outrager 6 #13 February 1, 2006 QuoteI DO NOT think it's funny, and I also believe that maybe those aforementioned individuals need to leave the United States of Amerca immediatly and never return. You gloat over the video of people being killed, yet you don't want to see more video of people being killed? Dude, you're seriously twisted Either way, this board is owned by South African and is hosted in Canada. Get the hell outta here and never return! What are you doing here in the first place? Seriously, how can you be so blind and/or intellectually challenged as to imagine somebody would think it's a funny subject? The point was to show that posting any video of people being killed is inappropriate here, especially considering this is an international forum. You blowing up steam from every hole just showed up exactly why it is a bad idea. bsbd! Yuri. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #14 February 1, 2006 QuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests... Would that be South Africa or Canada? QuoteI also will never fail to defend my brothers in arms at any cost to myself personally even if it should cause me to lose my life. If you aren't brave enough to say it in person then shut the fuck up!!! That is fair. I respect your attitude. However, I hope you realize that there is scum found everywhere. And while I completely agree that the remarks to which you refer where tasteless in the extreme there is scum also among US servicemen, and I hope you will not take issue with me reserving the right to call 'em as I see them.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #15 February 2, 2006 QuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #16 February 2, 2006 FOOOOOTZAAAK!!!! Gaan kak in die millies! FOOOOOTZAAAK!!!! FOOOOOTZAAAK!!!!When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #17 February 2, 2006 QuoteI am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. Are you fucking kidding me? You would call me a "right winger" and yet you think I don't give a flying fuck about innocent people dying? Bullshit. It's horrible to see children, women and men killed or mamed who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I hate to see death. Nonetheless, collateral damage is a part of war that has always existed and will continue to exist for eternity. There's no way to avoid it. However, it'd sure be nice if the media would report what we ACTUALLY do instead of 1/2 stories and journalized bullshit. War sucks, people die...good and bad. But as far as collateral damage goes, we do FAR FAR less of it than the media tells everyone. But don't worry, you don't have to believe me, no one will unless they actually live it. I'm still young, but my view and feelings have changed much...I don't want to see anyone die, but at the same time, I have no fucking problem turning a bunch of terrorists into mist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #18 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. EDIT: Fuckit. Cowardly countries are not worth the effort to show them as such... P.S. If you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #19 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. EDIT: Fuckit. Cowardly countries are not worth the effort to show them as such... P.S. If you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly. Temper temper. Is your Spanish in as great shape as his English? This is NOT a US owned web site.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #20 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI realized this morning that some individuals posting on these forums are in our country as guests and think its funny when US Servicemen are killed. ¿Have you ever heard of collateral damage? I am yet to see any right winger show some remorse for the innocents killed in Irak. EDIT: Fuckit. Cowardly countries are not worth the effort to show them as such... P.S. If you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly. Temper temper. Is your Spanish in as great shape as his English? Yes. I was hired to my current job partly to assist in serving Spanish-speaking policy holders.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #21 February 2, 2006 All this for what is a patently obvious misunderstanding of the point that was being made. It's no wonder to me that people go to war. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 February 2, 2006 QuoteIf you're going to talk about a country, learn to fucking spell its name correctly Has it ever occured to you that different languages are used throughout the world all with different spellings and grammar? This is NOT a US based website and there are tons and tons of people who do not claim English as their mother tongue. I think you need to re-evaluate how you view the world. The world doesn't end at the US borders, it only starts to begin. Plus what's this crap about the people of Iraq being cowards? Says who ... you? Never knew you were such an expert on human behavior. If a foreign country invaded your country, what would you do? Would you fight the invaders doing whatever it is was needed to fend them off, or would you rejoice the invading country's culture and religious beliefs. I think we know the answer. You would fight them doing whatever was needed to defeat them. So why are Iraqi's cowards for fighting a foreign invader who ignored virtually every nation and went ahead said "fuck you" to the world did their own thing, invaded Iraq and are now stuck knee deep in the shit. In fact one could claim that the US is full of cowards (oh boy the shit is going to hit the fan for this comment). I mean after all the US is the only country (to date) to use the bomb only because they didn't want to pay the financial and human costs of finishing the war the conventional way. Sounds like cowardly behavior to me. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #23 February 2, 2006 Quote Plus what's this crap about the people of Iraq being cowards? Says who ... you? Actually, I was referring to: Spain España Espagne SpanienIllinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #24 February 2, 2006 OK everybody. Deep breaths...HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #25 February 2, 2006 QuoteQuotedoes it mention anywhere the right to stay here?... If they're here lawfully, either with a green card or a visa, then exercising their 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech and assembly is entirely lawful. And if Congress passed a law restricting a foreigner's right to free speech while in the US legally, in most instances such a law would probably be unconstitutional. Remember that thread about women who are raped being partly responsible for the violence done to them? Would that thinking also apply to the people we're talking about here? Just curious. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
