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Skyrad 0
I take each case on its merits or lack of them.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
...Repect does not equal fear...
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If you believe the two have nothing to do with each other, I suggest the next time you drive past a state trooper aiming a radar gun at your car you give him the finger.
Spanking a teenage child for such an abusive accusation is not "domestic violence." This phrase has traditionally been reserved for such things as punching out your wife because she burned your dinner.
How much you wanna bet that, when she was much younger, her parents gave in to this "spanking-is-child-abuse" mythology, which resulted in a snotty little teenage cunt who thinks nothing of pulling the stunt she did?
Cheers,
Jon S.
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If you believe the two have nothing to do with each other, I suggest the next time you drive past a state trooper aiming a radar gun at your car you give him the finger.
Spanking a teenage child for such an abusive accusation is not "domestic violence." This phrase has traditionally been reserved for such things as punching out your wife because she burned your dinner.
How much you wanna bet that, when she was much younger, her parents gave in to this "spanking-is-child-abuse" mythology, which resulted in a snotty little teenage cunt who thinks nothing of pulling the stunt she did?
Cheers,
Jon S.
Darius11 12
I agree with everything he is saying with the exception of
Other then the above he is right.
Time out is the stupidest idea I have ever seen.
QuoteWhile beating the shit out of a 15-year-old would be a lot of fun, it really won't do anything to change a behavior pattern. That's why you need to start beating them early.
I'm not suggesting that you use a dowel rod on them as soon as they can stand. That young a gentle paddling is as harsh as a severe beating. But by three or four years you should be laying into your kids with belts, rulers, shoes, curtain rods, phone cords, cigarettes, staplers and whatever else you can get creative with.
Trust Uncle Chadwick. If you take these measures your daughter will not grow up to be a lying little tramp who makes up stories about being molested just for the attention.
Other then the above he is right.
Time out is the stupidest idea I have ever seen.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain
Quote...Repect does not equal fear...
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If you believe the two have nothing to do with each other, I suggest the next time you drive past a state trooper aiming a radar gun at your car you give him the finger.
Spanking a teenage child for such an abusive accusation is not "domestic violence." This phrase has traditionally been reserved for such things as punching out your wife because she burned your dinner.
How much you wanna bet that, when she was much younger, her parents gave in to this "spanking-is-child-abuse" mythology, which resulted in a snotty little teenage cunt who thinks nothing of pulling the stunt she did?
If you re-read my original post, you will see that I said 'planting the seeds of domestic violence". No I don't believe an occasional spanking is child abuse. I do however KNOW that abuse is most often times something that happens gradually over time, starting with something benign and then escalating because of a lack of self control on the part of the parent.
Grabbing everything in sight to use in a beating as the article suggested is quite literally a lack of self control.
I will stand by respect does not equal fear until I take my last breath. Period. I respect your opinion if you do not agree, but I do not support it. I have been on both sides of that issue with both humans and animals and my proof is in my experiences in that regard.
I am not inclined to make a judgement or assumption on how this child was raised or what led to her actions. I will say if a child doesn't respect you growing up, it is not going to magically happen overnight at 15. I will also say, the 'beat the snot out of the teacher' reaction by the father says a lot about his problem solving skills and self control.
For your reference to the trooper, it might please you to know I do respect the officers and their position, but I do not fear them, and I have on several occasions called them on it when they were out of line (trust me they certainly didn't fear me, but when the dust cleared, they most certainly respected me!).
Life is not fair and there are no guarantees...
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At least in my state, there's not much he can do to you unless you happen to be speeding. It's known as "freedom of expression."
No one was talking about spanking the teenager for her accusation, and a spanking is unnecessary. The judge is going to take care of her. Making false accusations is a crime. But you're wrong about what "domestic violence" describes, and it is most certainly applied to the use of excessive force in disciplining children.
I'll bet you that she is an emotionally, if not physically, abused child. Her father clearly has a problem keeping his cool.
rl
Quote]...Repect does not equal fear...
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If you believe the two have nothing to do with each other, I suggest the next time you drive past a state trooper aiming a radar gun at your car you give him the finger.
At least in my state, there's not much he can do to you unless you happen to be speeding. It's known as "freedom of expression."
QuoteSpanking a teenage child for such an abusive accusation is not "domestic violence." This phrase has traditionally been reserved for such things as punching out your wife because she burned your dinner.
No one was talking about spanking the teenager for her accusation, and a spanking is unnecessary. The judge is going to take care of her. Making false accusations is a crime. But you're wrong about what "domestic violence" describes, and it is most certainly applied to the use of excessive force in disciplining children.
QuoteHow much you wanna bet that, when she was much younger, her parents gave in to this "spanking-is-child-abuse" mythology, which resulted in a snotty little teenage cunt who thinks nothing of pulling the stunt she did?
I'll bet you that she is an emotionally, if not physically, abused child. Her father clearly has a problem keeping his cool.
rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb
rehmwa 2
Quotethe next time you drive past a state trooper aiming a radar gun at your car you give him the finger.
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At least in my state, there's not much he can do to you unless you happen to be speeding. It's known as "freedom of expression."
Even if it's covered under "freedom of expression", abusive "expression" does that concept a real disservice and it takes a real wimp to be ignorant and pissy in a childish gesture to then HIDE under the cloak of freedom of expression when someone stands up to them.
That said, it also takes a childish cop to chase the other child down and find an excuse to ticket them for simple gesture of disrepect. In that case, I think the two would deserve each other. In that case, the cop would be in the wrong legally in abusing his position of authority, but both would be children. {I had to write this last sentence for those that are incapable of being able to separate what I wrote above from my taking any position other than this one).
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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants
QuoteQuotethe next time you drive past a state trooper aiming a radar gun at your car you give him the finger.
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At least in my state, there's not much he can do to you unless you happen to be speeding. It's known as "freedom of expression."
Even if it's covered under "freedom of expression", abusive "expression" does that concept a real disservice and it takes a real wimp to be ignorant and pissy in a childish gesture to then HIDE under the cloak of freedom of expression when someone stands up to them.
That said, it also takes a childish cop to chase the other child down and find an excuse to ticket them for simple gesture of disrepect. In that case, I think the two would deserve each other. In that case, the cop would be in the wrong legally in abusing his position of authority, but both would be children. {I had to write this last sentence for those that are incapable of being able to separate what I wrote above from my taking any position other than this one).
All agreed. But the point Jon wanted to make is that fear equates to respect, and this was his example.
There aren't too many people of whom I've been afraid for whom I've had much (if any) respect. As a matter of fact, in giving it some thought, I'm pretty sure that respect is never engendered by fear. Self-preservation may dictate that we have to kowtow to those who are bigger and stronger than we are (figuratively and literally), but I can't think of an instance where such a reaction arises from respect.
rl
If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb
pirana 0
QuoteI get this column below in my email on Saturday. Most of the time this person is just a raving idiot and it serves for a good laugh. This weeks column though I actually agree somewhat with. Now I think that at the end of the column he is out of line but the point he is getting at I agree with. I was wondering how the rest of you feel about it:
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I just read an interesting story about a dude in Florida who threw a high school teacher a beating in front of his class because the teacher supposedly touched the guy's 15-year-old daughter inappropriately (on her boobies). Your first reaction to this story might be, 'Good for him!
If some weirdo teacher was fondling my 15-year-old daughter's boobies I'd throw him a beating, too.' But there's more to this particular swamp opera.
As it turns out, the teacher had given the girl a detention for dumping a pop out of a second floor window onto the head of another student. In order to get back at the teacher for this inconvenience to her gum-chewing schedule, the girl decided to ruin the teacher's career by concocting the story and getting her little girlfriends to corroborate it.
A one hour detention, and an entire career shot to hell. I guess that sounds like an even trade to what passes for a mind in a 15-year-old girl.
Well, it didn't take long for one of the little cock-teases to crack and confess the entire conspiracy. So the teacher got a shot in the face and a paid vacation. The dad is facing a law suit. And the girls face possible expulsion from school. But what is the real, underlying problem here? If you're in possession of even a mere moiety of your marbles you should be able to see it right off.
Instead of beating on poor, innocent teachers, that fat, redneck father should have been beating on his daughter since she was old enough to stand.
It all comes down to a lack of discipline. Modern parents are too unwilling to apply the back of the hand or a little leather to their childrens' backsides and therefore foster in them the belief that they can get away with absolutely anything.
It all comes down to fear. If your child isn't afraid of
you, why should he or she be afraid of ruining some poor slob's career?
Plus, physical discipline is so much more effective and easier then 'time-outs' or grounding or revoking privileges. If, say, a child commits some infraction you could ground him or her for a week, meaning you have to police them every minute of the day, in addition to listening to endless
whining and complaining. Or, you could immediately apply the belt vigorously for a few minutes and promise more of the same if you catch the child even looking like he's thinking of doing whatever it is he did again.
Of course, by 15 the best opportunity for discipline is
already long past. While beating the shit out of a 15-year-old would be a lot of fun, it really won't do anything to change a behavior pattern. That's why you need to start beating them early.
I'm not suggesting that you use a dowel rod on them as soon as they can stand. That young a gentle paddling is as harsh as a severe beating. But by three or four years you should be laying into your kids with belts, rulers, shoes, curtain rods, phone cords, cigarettes, staplers and whatever else you can get creative with.
Trust Uncle Chadwick. If you take these measures your daughter will not grow up to be a lying little tramp who makes up stories about being molested just for the attention.
Drop dead,
Chadwick
I quoted all that just to say:
WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT! The dad and columnist belong together. Funny thing is, no discussion of what the ignorant redneck dad's child-rearing approach has been. I'll bet it would be an eye-opener.
Maybe like Forest Gumps girlfriend; who for some reason never wanted to be at home much.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley
And yet, whenever I go off against nanny state bullshit, you argue tooth-and-nail with me, coming off as a champion for exactly this kind of nonsense.
Now you oppose it, now you don't. Is that your game?
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"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"
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