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Global Warming is Racist

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peacefuljeffrey    0

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Discriminate against them about what?

Just because they haven't won the right to marry (which is still not an idea that society has quite worked out its feelings about) that doesn't mean they are not protected against any other discrimination. You can't refuse someone housing for sexual orientation. Can't refuse them a job because of it, either. Can't tell someone they can't vote because they're gay...

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No, it's not the same as government sanctioned policies but the things that happened during as a result of them are still having an effect today. That's undeniable.




When black people got pissed off that Rodney King's police abusers were acquitted, did they go after other BLACK people in the street, or whites and asians?

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Just because they haven't won the right to marry (which is still not an idea that society has quite worked out its feelings about) that doesn't mean they are not protected against any other discrimination. You can't refuse someone housing for sexual orientation. Can't refuse them a job because of it, either.



In most of the United States that is a perfectly valid way to discriminate Its done quite frequently in fact. VERY few states have any form of codified protections to protect them.
An example below

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/24/AR2005052401496.html

If a federal manager fires, reassigns or takes some other action against an employee simply because that employee is gay, there is nothing in federal law that would permit the Office of Special Counsel to protect the worker, Bloch testified before the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs subcommittee on oversight of government management, the federal workforce and the District of Columbia.

There are HUNDREDS of such articles.

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I don't really see what the Rodney King verdict has to do with my comment but I'll entertain your question.

It would take more time and space than I have to explain the social climate in LA at that time but let it suffice to say, they went after whatever/whoever was close. We didn't march out to Bel Aire or the hills and burn and beat the shit out white people. Black people, whether you choose to believe it or not, actually caught it too.

I'm sure the image of Reginald Denny being beaten by numerous black people is seared into your mind. What you may not know, and what wasn't shown or talked about much, is the fact that the people who stopped the beating were black, his e.r. physican was black, and one of his plastic surgeons was black.

The Rodney King verdict was the straw that broke the camel's back as we have been catching it from LA police for years. The riots were not a call to arms on behalf of Rodney King but more the top blowing off years, and I do mean years, of frustration and anger.

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When black people got pissed off that Rodney King's police abusers were acquitted, did they go after other BLACK people in the street, or whites and asians?



...your point being what?



Just that black people are known to victimize others simply on the basis of their race.

They are not different from white people or any other race.
And they are not to be defended when they do bigoted things.
But some people seem intent on giving them a by.


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That's what we're known for? Is that what your "numerous black friends" are know for? Do they know that's how you feel about people who look like them?

James Bryd Jr was chained to the bumper of a pickup truck, and dragged down a road for miles until his body was literally spread over miles of road. His head and arms were found over a mile from one another. He was black and the two men who did it were white. This happened in 1999. I could very easily change your statement by one word so it reads "Just that white people are known to victimize others simply on the basis of their race." That one incident or a collection of them doesn't give you the right to label an entire race of people. If you took the time and effort to understand and learn about black people, rather than holding fast to what you see on television and the limited exposure you've obviously had, you'd find yourself in a better place as you try to make sense of these things. But perhaps you don't really want to.

We're not all the same. Do we have commonalities? Yes, but that doesn't make us all the same. Differences should be celebrated not ignored. Once you accept that people generally come from different places, have different backgrounds, cultures, history, upbringing ect, then you can begin to have an intelligent conversation about why people of different races do what they do. Until then further discussion is pointless.

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I can't argue with that, but what about news that actually singled out blacks, and their predicament, instead of actually stating people in poor neighborhoods as there were other people that suffered too.?

Racism exists from all ethnicities, and atrocities are a constant in man kind.
"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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That's what we're known for?




Are you fucking for real? Are you really that dense? Have you never heard the idiom, "XXXX are 'known to' do YYYY?"

It doesn't mean "that is the mark of XXXX," despite your egregious misunderstanding. It means, "This is something that has been done by XXXX."

If I say, "I am known to eat artichokes," it does not mean nearly the same thing as, "I am known for eating artichokes."


I am not the owner of YOUR lack of reading comprehension skills. YOU are.

If I said that you are a "niggardly" person, are you going to call me a racist, or look up the definition of the word, and find out it has nothing to do with the word "nigger" or even with race at all?! :S

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Although it has nothing to do with what's been said so far, I'm well aware of the definition and etimology of the word.

You didn't say black people are known for blah blah blah as a general comment akin to I like to eat cereal for breakfast sometimes. Wether you say "known to" or "known for" makes no difference in this instance. The words came out your mouth and trying to spin it one way or the other doesn't change a thing.

I'm done.

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Although it has nothing to do with what's been said so far, I'm well aware of the definition and etimology of the word.

You didn't say black people are known for blah blah blah as a general comment akin to I like to eat cereal for breakfast sometimes. Wether you say "known to" or "known for" makes no difference in this instance. The words came out your mouth and trying to spin it one way or the other doesn't change a thing.

I'm done.



You're taking offense at a meaning given to my words by your own misinterpretation of them, nothing more. Certainly not because I was trying to say that black people have a penchant, habit, compulsion or anything else for attacking white people.

Plain and simple, I was offering that it's not only whites who attack blacks now and then -- that blacks are "known to" attack whites now and then, too.

So if you're done, you're done. I'm fine with that. But don't pin it on me. I know what I said and what I meant, and you insisting that I meant something bigoted doesn't change the fact that I did not.

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I dunno, PJ; I can't figure you out. It's almost as though you feel guilty about your bigoted sentiments.

Nah, that couldn't be it...



I retract this statement. After reading some of PJ's other posts, I've formed a different opinion.



You know, since your comments are obviously directed at me, so that you can tell me just how morally superior you are, why don't you just PM them to me instead of boring everyone else here with them?

And then I can tell you I don't give two shits what you think of me and my alleged bigotry.

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-Jeffrey
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you missed the 2nd word before that....MR EDITOR.. you are fired.



You may note that it was not the focal point of my post. To have hit both of the errors would have detracted from the funniness of focusing on "prostrate."

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