Liberals vs. Conservatives in Higher Education

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In a word, it's just sub-standard writing.

So I suppose the use of emoticons would also indicate sub-standard writing; no one would use such things in a proper essay or a college textbook, would they? Therefore, anyone who uses such silly writing techniques in a casual online forum, must surely be borderline illiterate, eh?

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Therefore, anyone who uses such silly writing techniques in a casual online forum, must surely be borderline illiterate, eh?

If you say so.

To clarify: I believe the writing methods I cited are examples of poor writing skill. I don't believe the use of emoticons (or other creative techniques) indicates the same thing.

I didn't mention college papers -- you did. I'm merely talking about inability or laziness on the part of some writers, whatever the case may be.

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You REALLLLLY need to get out and jump more....you worry about far too many things I say online.

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To clarify: I believe the writing methods I cited are examples of poor writing skill. I don't believe the use of emoticons (or other creative techniques) indicates the same thing.

Ok... and that's your right to believe so... Personally, I use different writing methods for communicating in a casual online forum than I do when I am writing for publication, or for business correspondence, or for a school paper, or for any instance that might require "proper" writing skill... Casual communication on the Internet has influenced the development of all sorts of "creative techniques" of writing (including emoticons )... and most of it has very little to do with one's level of literacy.

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OMG... you used lotsa...dots.. you must not be edjimicated.

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Ok... and that's your right to believe so... Personally, I use different writing methods for communicating in a casual online forum than I do when I am writing for publication, or for business correspondence, or for a school paper, or for any instance that might require "proper" writing skill...

Your writing skill in this casual forum is generally very good, and is appreciated -- it makes for an enjoyable, easy read. Hey, you might even sway opinions around here using that style!

OTOH, I'll bet people who use poor grammar, poor punctuation, and plenty of misplaced dots get the page-down key a lot.

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I am too edjimicated... you big red... amazon!... So edjimicated that someone like... umm... that thar Microsoft peeps might even hire me!

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You REALLLLLY need to get out and jump more....you worry about far too many things I say online.

Why would I worry about something as predictable as what you'll say online?

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You REALLLLLY need to get out and jump more....you worry about far too many things I say online.

Why would I worry about something as predictable as what you'll say online?

Ok, that's it...

I think it's time for you two to get a room...

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Why would I worry about something as predictable as what you'll say online?

But then..........................................................you seem to worry enough consistently to put in one line quips that usually border on personal attacks... or at least some people here have PM'ed me wondering why you seem to feel the need to do that.????.

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or at least some people here have PM'ed me wondering why you seem to feel the need to do that.????.

Oh, cry me a river lil' miss goddess of Sweetness and Light.

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I definitely had to write my fair share of left-leaning papers in college so I wouldn't get a C or worse on them. I wrote two papers that presented my own opinion (in a couple classes w/ liberals)...definitely got a D+ and a C-...fuck those guys.

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OTOH, I'll bet people who use poor grammar, poor punctuation, and plenty of misplaced dots get the page-down key a lot.

I have been known to skip reading posts without paragraph breaks and atrocious spelling.

And it is not because I think they don't have anything important to say but more because they couldn't take the time to write what they had to say in a clear manner.

I like to read posts that are legible so I can think about the IDEA of the words instead of just trying to understand the words themselves.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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I like to read posts that are legible so I can think about the IDEA of the words instead of just trying to understand the words themselves.

Likewise. Some non-English-speakers have (ahem) interesting approaches to grammar and spelling, though none seem to post in SC.

But when English is your native language and you just can't be bothered to make it intelligible, well, I generally can't be bothered to try to understand it anyway.

But then I'm lazy. Lots of really long posts, even when well-written, get that reaction from me too. Then I feel guilty.

Wendy W

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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I definitely had to write my fair share of left-leaning papers in college so I wouldn't get a C or worse on them. I wrote two papers that presented my own opinion (in a couple classes w/ liberals)...definitely got a D+ and a C-...fuck those guys.

If you'd taken more math and hard science instead of the soft options, you wouldn't have had a problem.

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Yeah, I couldn't have really wrote that paper on the Solution to Fermat's Last Theorem and slipped in a "Bush rules" without notice.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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What really strikes me after reading this thread is that both liberals and conservatives have enough free time and desire to clash over this important issue.


ViperPilot: next time you write a paper, I suggest you use a white pen and write between the lines “liberals suck” (or “republicans suck”). It might change the outcome

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If you'd taken more math and hard science instead of the soft options, you wouldn't have had a problem.

Better universities require their students to take classes outside of their major/realm. If ones graduates with nothing but physics and math classes, what was the point? Could just buy a robot from Japan.

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If you'd taken more math and hard science instead of the soft options, you wouldn't have had a problem.

Better universities require their students to take classes outside of their major/realm. If ones graduates with nothing but physics and math classes, what was the point? Could just buy a robot from Japan.

Yeah, I can't tell you how much I use the old "Comparative Economic Systems" and the ever useful "Greek and Roman Mythology" every single day.

I real life, if I could go back and fix it, I'd have rather the university got rid of the "elective" liberal arts requirement and directly require "Personal Investing and Money Management" and "How to Network, Interview, and not Communicate Like a Typical Idiot New College Grad".

As a hiring manager, it would even help me today.

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If you'd taken more math and hard science instead of the soft options, you wouldn't have had a problem.

Better universities require their students to take classes outside of their major/realm. If ones graduates with nothing but physics and math classes, what was the point? Could just buy a robot from Japan.

Plenty of GenEd classes outside the major do not require deferring to some cranky opinions on politico-economic systems. You could take a hard course on Shakespeare, Milton, or Chaucer, for example, or a foreign language.

By the way, "worser" universities require exactly the same thing as "better" ones, which you would know if you did a little research on accreditation requirements instead of just opinionating.

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By the way, "worser" universities require exactly the same thing as "better" ones, which you would know if you did a little research on accreditation requirements instead of just opinionating.

No such word as opinionating. Perhaps you meant Opining ...Oh educated one.

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By the way, "worser" universities require exactly the same thing as "better" ones, which you would know if you did a little research on accreditation requirements instead of just opinionating.

No such word as opinionating. Perhaps you meant Opining ...Oh educated one.

I just made it up by verbing an adjective. There's no rule against that.

It's verbing nouns that's bad.

The passive voice should never be used.

Do not put statements in the negative form.

The writer must not shift your point of view.

And don't start a sentence with a conjunction.

DO NOT overuse exclamation points and all caps to emphasize!!!

Place pronouns as closely as possible, especially in long sentences, as of
10 or more words, to their antecedents.

If any word is improper at the end of a sentence, a linking verb is.

Everyone should be careful to use a singular pronoun with singular nouns in their writing.

Always pick on the correct idiom.

Never use a preposition to end a sentence with.

Don't verb nouns.

Don't never use no double negatives.

Each pronoun agrees with their antecedent.

When dangling, watch your participles.

Eliminate commas, that are, not necessary. Parenthetical words however should be enclosed in commas.

About those sentence fragments. Remember subject, verb, object.

Try to not ever split infinitives.

Use the apostrophe in it's proper place and omit it when its not needed.

Correct speling is esential.

Between you and I, case is important.

Verbs has to agree with their antecedents.

When composing informal documents, employ the vernacular.

Eschew ampersands & abbrevs, etc...

Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are (usually) unnecessary.

Contractions aren't necessary and shouldn't be used.

In all cases, you should never generalize.

Eliminate quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said: "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know."

Avoid the use of dyed-in-the-wool cliches like the plague; they are old hat.

Comparisons are as bad as cliches.

Don't be redundant; don't use more words than necessary; it's highly superfluous.

Usually, you should be more or less specific.

Understatement is always the absolute best way to put forth earth-shaking ideas.

Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement.

Simplify! How? Eliminate one-word sentences.

Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake.

Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms, ya know?

Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed. Who needs rhetorical questions?

Use words correctly, irregardless of how others use them.

If you've heard it once, you've heard it a thousand times: Resist hyperbole; not one writer in a million can use it correctly.

Puns are for children, not groan readers.

Run on sentences cause all sorts of problems for readers and people should never use them and must try to write better and divide their sentences.

Use the semicolon properly, always use it where it is appropriate; and never where it isn't.

Hyphenate between sy-llables and avoid un-necessary hyphens.

Use hyphens in compound-words, not just where two-words are related.

Be carefully to use adjectives and adverbs correct.

It is incumbent on us to eschew archaisms.

Steer clear of incorrect forms of verbs that have snuck in the language.

Don't string too many prepositional phrases together unless you are walking through the valley of the shadow of death.

"Avoid overuse of 'quotation' marks.'"

Never leave a transitive verb just lay there without an object.

Only Proper Nouns should be capitalized.

a sentence should begin with a capital letter and end with punctuation In letters compositions reports and things like that use commas to keep a string of items apart.

Vary your words variously so as to use various words.

Good writers do not use one verb tense in one part of a sentence, and then have switched to a different tense in the next.

Always be looking out for "be" verbs, for they are supplying verbiage all scholars are discouraging.

Use delightful but irrelevant extra adjectives and adverbs with sparing and parsimonious infrequency, for they unnecessarily bloat your otherwise perfect sentence.

Bee careful two use the write homonym.

Beware of malapropisms. They are a communist submersive plot.

Join clauses good like a conjunction should.

Continuity of thought, logical development and smooth transitions are important. Never leave the reader guessing.

Sentences without verbs--bad idea.

Use parallel structure when you write and in speaking.

Proofread carefully to see if you words out.

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Yeah, I can't tell you how much I use the old "Comparative Economic Systems" and the ever useful "Greek and Roman Mythology" every single day.

On the other hand, as a first-line manager I probably use my degree in sociology more than I ever would have used all the APL and Fortran I'd've learned in a computer science program.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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On the other hand, as a first-line manager I probably use my degree in sociology more than I ever would have used all the APL and Fortran I'd've learned in a computer science program.

I work in IT. I have a Computer Science Degree and sociology/phychology have a HUGE bearing on what I deal with in my day to day interactions with clients.

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Computer Science Degree .

If that is designing and building computers and their components I'll call it Science. If it's software, then that's a stretch....

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