aftermid 0 #1 January 17, 2006 I saw the documentary “Super Size Me” last week. Much of it was a pretty self serving, self righteous indictment on fast food and lazy Americans in general. It doesn’t take eating only McDonald’s everyday for thirty day’s to know that it is unhealthy and void of any significant nutritional value. Nor are those who CHOOSE to eat it the victim of some great conspiracy to make them obese and unhealthy. However, the film did bring up some things that I found quite interesting. As an ex-smoker (almost a year) I loath those who feel the need to remind smokers that smoking is harmful. The only thing more dangerous than cigarette smoke is a smoker pushed to the edge by some self righteous, obnoxious, omnipotent non-smoker. With all the antismoking litigation and legislation it is more than socially acceptable to berate and patronize a smoker in any given situation. The film made an interesting point. Obesity is the second leading cause of preventable death in America. How would the general public respond to treating the obese the way we treat smokers? What would happen if I went buy the fat guy at work eating his double cheese burger extra-value meal and said: “You know that shit is going to kill you? Why don’t you stop eating that garbage, have you looked in the mirror lately you fat slob? You know if you worked out more often you wouldn’t be such a fat sack of shit. Obesity is the second leading cause of preventable death in America.” Or even better saying the same things to a random guy walking down the street carrying a McDonald’s bag. I don’t know that I have any real point, but if you get a chance “Super Size Me” is worth seeing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #2 January 17, 2006 QuoteHowever, the film did bring up some things that I found quite interesting. As an ex-smoker (almost a year) I loath those who feel the need to remind smokers that smoking is harmful. The only thing more dangerous than cigarette smoke is a smoker pushed to the edge by some self righteous, obnoxious, omnipotent non-smoker. With all the antismoking litigation and legislation it is more than socially acceptable to berate and patronize a smoker in any given situation. Haha, you ought to look up some of Bill Hicks comedy on smokers and none smokers, funny shit! ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #3 January 17, 2006 QuoteWhat would happen if I went buy the fat guy at work eating his double cheese burger extra-value meal and said: “You know that shit is going to kill you? Why don’t you stop eating that garbage, have you looked in the mirror lately you fat slob? You know if you worked out more often you wouldn’t be such a fat sack of shit. Obesity is the second leading cause of preventable death in America.” Or even better saying the same things to a random guy walking down the street carrying a McDonald’s bag. That might make for some very funny footage. Someone should get a camera crew and do a man-in-the-street piece based on this." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 January 17, 2006 As an aside, have you seen the South Park episode about that? Rob Reiner is trying to get everyone to stop smoking, and there isn't a moment in the show where he isn't stuffing himself with food. What I'd actually like to do is a program called "Undersize me" where I implicate vegetables and fruits by showing anorexics who will not eat fast food. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #5 January 17, 2006 QuoteI don’t know that I have any real point... Neither do I. I have no beef with fat people for eating junk food. That is their problem. I do however have a problem with smokers who think it is their divine right to light up whenever they feel like it, because that affects my health.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,095 #6 January 17, 2006 >where I implicate vegetables and fruits by showing anorexics who will not eat fast food. 'cept anorexics get that way by NOT eating things like vegetables and fruits; by not eating much at all, actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 January 17, 2006 Quote>where I implicate vegetables and fruits by showing anorexics who will not eat fast food. 'cept anorexics get that way by NOT eating things like vegetables and fruits; by not eating much at all, actually. Yes, but whatever they DO eat is certainly not a Double Double. And I won't let people know that they are anorexics. Get it? Bill, I've got my agenda, and I'll put whatever spin I want to put on it. There's a pretty penny to be made, and I can get my name out. If you want to point to things like facts, science or other factors, I'll just accuse you of being a corporate whore right-wing whack job. Are we understood? Capice? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #8 January 17, 2006 Based on your invocation of Bill Hicks you 'must be cool' according to LN311. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aftermid 0 #9 January 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteI don’t know that I have any real point... Neither do I. I have no beef with fat people for eating junk food. That is their problem. I do however have a problem with smokers who think it is their divine right to light up whenever they feel like it, because that affects my health. Fair enough. When you're forcably subjected to second hand smoke in a confined area I think that is reasonably unfair. I also think it's totally obnoxious to go out of your way to pester and berate someone that is only harming themself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #10 January 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don’t know that I have any real point... Neither do I. I have no beef with fat people for eating junk food. That is their problem. I do however have a problem with smokers who think it is their divine right to light up whenever they feel like it, because that affects my health. Fair enough. When you're forcably subjected to second hand smoke in a confined area I think that is reasonably unfair. I also think it's totally obnoxious to go out of your way to pester and berate someone that is only harming themself. Who forces you anymore? There are plenty of places with "No smoking" policies that you can go to. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #11 January 17, 2006 I have always loved that argument: "Why should I be forced to breathe smoke in this bar if I don't want to?" Answer: You shouldn't. You can leave.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aftermid 0 #12 January 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don’t know that I have any real point... Neither do I. I have no beef with fat people for eating junk food. That is their problem. I do however have a problem with smokers who think it is their divine right to light up whenever they feel like it, because that affects my health. Fair enough. When you're forcably subjected to second hand smoke in a confined area I think that is reasonably unfair. I also think it's totally obnoxious to go out of your way to pester and berate someone that is only harming themself. Who forces you anymore? There are plenty of places with "No smoking" policies that you can go to. exactly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #13 January 17, 2006 QuoteBased on your invocation of Bill Hicks you 'must be cool' according to LN311. Is that a compliment? I'm not entirely sure what this LM311 that you speak of is? ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #14 January 17, 2006 QuoteNeither do I. I have no beef with fat people for eating junk food. That is their problem. I do however have a problem with smokers who think it is their divine right to light up whenever they feel like it, because that affects my health. I'm a smoker and I agree with you on that one. I will never light up in a non-smokers car/house etc and if im in a pub with non smokers i'll always push my seat back from everyone and blow the smoke away from people. People always comment on me if the smoke drifts towards them and I go after it with my hands trying to bat it away. Apparently alot of smokers don't give a fuck if their smoke surrounds other people. Swines. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #15 January 17, 2006 Right. But that is your PERSONAL choice isn't it? No law needed to be passed forcing you to be courteous. Such is NOT the case in more and more cities in the US.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,095 #16 January 17, 2006 >I'm not entirely sure what this LM311 that you speak of is? The LM311 is an older voltage comparator IC by National Semiconductor. It's a decent part, but its input voltage range is quite limited (supply - 2 volts) and its output swing is also somewhat limited compared to modern CMOS parts. I used an LM311 variant in a recent design as a current sensor threshold detector, but I ended up changing to an LMV393 for the greater input range. So let that be a lesson for all you people trying to be cool! Use an LMV393 instead; all the chicks will think you're cooler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #17 January 17, 2006 True. I'm not debating that, I just wanted to big myself and say I was nice. No shame me. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #18 January 17, 2006 Haha, so this LM311 thinks i'm cool? Sweet! I'm getting myself one of those. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #19 January 17, 2006 QuoteWhat would happen if I went buy the fat guy at work eating his double cheese burger extra-value meal and said: “You know that shit is going to kill you? Why don’t you stop eating that garbage, have you looked in the mirror lately you fat slob? You know if you worked out more often you wouldn’t be such a fat sack of shit. Obesity is the second leading cause of preventable death in America.” Then you will have turned into a person who is exactly like the "self righteous, obnoxious, omnipotent non-smoker" that you loathe so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #20 January 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat would happen if I went buy the fat guy at work eating his double cheese burger extra-value meal and said: “You know that shit is going to kill you? Why .....preventable death in America.” Then you will have turned into a person who is exactly like the "self righteous, obnoxious, omnipotent non-smoker" that you loathe so much. especially if the fat person is constantly puking on his hair or clothes all day - or at least standing at building entrances and puking on people in a similar fashion (just one mint - it's wafer thin....) Edit: The serious answer is it's ok to say "hey, stop puking on me" it's a bit off to just come up and berate the individual fat person without cause. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #21 January 17, 2006 He was referring to nonsmokers who "berate and patronize" smokers even when they are not smoking (or at least that is how I read it)... It is one thing to ask someone to stop doing something that is affecting your own health... But going up to your overweight co-worker, calling them a "fat sack of shit" and then giving them your unsolicited advice (quite rudely) about how you think they should live their life... that's a completely different thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #22 January 17, 2006 QuoteBut going up to your overweight co-worker, calling them a "fat sack of shit" and then giving them your unsolicited advice (quite rudely) about how you think they should live their life... that's a completely different thing. Yeah, this one time, in a project meeting, I put it on the agenda where we took turns berating "Fat Ernie". Well, let me tell you, it is NOT appreciated. So now we just take married people and tell them how many kids they "should" have. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #23 January 17, 2006 QuoteSo now we just take married people and tell them how many kids they "should" have. Well there's nothing wrong with that. But hopefully the number of kids they "should" have was directly correlated to how much money they made and how intelligent and good-looking they were... because, of course, we don't want poor, stupid, ugly people having children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #24 January 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteSo now we just take married people and tell them how many kids they "should" have. Well there's nothing wrong with that. But hopefully the number of kids they "should" have was directly correlated to how much money they made and how intelligent and good-looking they were... because, of course, we don't want poor, stupid, ugly people having children. Which is why I propose a battery of tests to determine if you can get a license to have a child. Of course, I don't care about looks; it would be strictly a long series of test to determine that you are not a fucking idiot. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aftermid 0 #25 January 17, 2006 QuoteHe was referring to nonsmokers who "berate and patronize" smokers even when they are not smoking (or at least that is how I read it)... That was how it was intended. I was tempted to ask to leave second hand smoke comments out completely for the sake of argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
