peacefuljeffrey 0 #26 January 17, 2006 QuoteDammit, I asked "When is Ringtail Lemur Day???" The second Monday after Crested Caracara day. --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #27 January 17, 2006 QuoteThat said, there's a radio station in Seattle (that normally plays just music and is about as apolitical as they get) that will play the *entire* "I Have a Dream" speech on MLK day. It's powerful stuff and few people get to hear it all the way through. A few years ago I sat in a Safeway parking lot for 20 minutes so I could hear the end. I was born the day that speech was made, Aug. 28, 1963. When I was old enough, my dad taught me all about the significance of that speech. It is not a speech just for the benefit of African Americans but rather humanity as a whole. If we look at ourselves we will realize that we're all in some sort of minority. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #28 January 17, 2006 QuoteColumbus Day, for the information of all, celebrates the discovery of the Americas. Of course, the Americas were also "discovered" by the Native Americans' ancestors, who were Asians who crossed the Siberian-Alaska land bridge several thousand years ago. The first Europeans to have "discovered" the Americas, a couple thousand years later (and a couple hundred years before Columbus), might have been the ancestors of the present-day Norwegians. Many Italian-Americans celebrate Columbus Day as their holiday much the way the Irish celebrate St Patrick's Day as theirs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crankaload 0 #29 January 17, 2006 Has anyone really sat down and calculated the lost revenue of the American economics resulting from ANY holiday? If we do would do away with all holidays, what impact would it have? The real American way is to work your ass off. Everytime a holiday rolls around, I want to puke. Employers have to pay employees for non-productivity. Dammit go to work on a holiday start a new way. Black guy day and every other holiday is just a waste of time. Time is more valuable than money. When you run out of time......you are out. Spend your time wisely....... be productive. GET YOUR ASS TO WORK! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #30 January 17, 2006 QuoteMarty may deserve our respect, but why is he the only American considered worthy of a holiday in his name? I find this thread offensive, by both its title and its content. But the above comment is ridiculous when one considers the other holidays we celebrate. The fact is that MLK did more to pave the way to equal treatment of blacks than George Washington did to pave the way to equal treatment of colonists. After all, George lived to be our first president. MLK died before his potential could be realized. I'm almost ashamed to be posting on a site that permits posts entitled "It's Black Guy Day!" rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #31 January 17, 2006 Quote>How do you feel about Columbus Day? That's OK; he was white. And of course Christmas is OK too. Jesus wasn't exactly white, but he is near and dear to the hearts of many, so that's OK. What do you mean by Jesus wasn't exactly white? I'm not questioning (i don't believe in him anyway) but just wondering what you mean by this "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #32 January 17, 2006 Jesus was from the Middle East. His skin was probably roughly the same color as many other middle-easterners of any of the ethnic descriptions. And to some folks, anyone who isn't of European ancestry isn't really white, or like them. That says nothing whatsoever about the original poster, who I *very* seriously doubt feels that way. In fact, MLK day is probably not objectionable because MLK is black, but more because it's newer -- why honor MLK when we have folks like Washington, Lincoln, Adams etc. Not saying I agree, but saying that after some PMs on other topics, he doesn't foam at the mouth or anything else objectionable. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #33 January 17, 2006 QuoteJesus was from the Middle East. His skin was probably roughly the same color as many other middle-easterners of any of the ethnic descriptions. And to some folks, anyone who isn't of European ancestry isn't really white, or like them. Oh ok. Can you believe i never even thought about that? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #34 January 17, 2006 All those pictures of the guy with pale skin, light brown wavy hair, and blue eyes probably aren't from eyewitness accounts Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #35 January 17, 2006 Quote>Bad choice of bimbo - see this . . . And of course I wouldn't have the same job I have today without Hedy Lamarr. (True!) Right, the inventor of spread spectrum, I believe.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #36 January 17, 2006 ...I mean, you start judging people on what they do, and suddenly Stephen Hawking might start getting more attention than Britney Spears - and we can't have that!... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Bill, that's about the funniest thing I've seen here since last year when someone started a parody thread in response to the issue of drugs on the DZ ("Sex on the DZ.") , Jon S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #37 January 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteMarty may deserve our respect, but why is he the only American considered worthy of a holiday in his name? I find this thread offensive, by both its title and its content. But the above comment is ridiculous when one considers the other holidays we celebrate. The fact is that MLK did more to pave the way to equal treatment of blacks than George Washington did to pave the way to equal treatment of colonists. After all, George lived to be our first president. MLK died before his potential could be realized. I'm almost ashamed to be posting on a site that permits posts entitled "It's Black Guy Day!" _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ C'mon, it's a parody based on a serious issue. We constantly have racial issues thrust into our faces. You can't even fill out a federal form without having to identify your racial background. The fact is that any business owner who attempts to run his business in a racially-neutral, color-blind manner, as Dr. King "dreamed," runs the risk of being branded a bigot and having Jesse Jackson and the federal government sniffing around and micro-managing the situation. THIS is what's offensive. I don't accept the premise that there's anything wrong with calling black people "black people." Cheers, Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites OATSF14 0 #38 January 17, 2006 QuoteThe fact is that any business owner who attempts to run his business in a racially-neutral, color-blind manner, as Dr. King "dreamed," runs the risk of being branded a bigot and having Jesse Jackson and the federal government sniffing around and micro-managing the situation. Well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #39 January 17, 2006 >The fact is that any business owner who attempts to run his business > in a racially-neutral, color-blind manner, as Dr. King "dreamed," > runs the risk of being branded a bigot and having Jesse Jackson >and the federal government sniffing around and micro-managing the > situation. Nonsense. That's how we run our company (and it's a big one) and we've never been branded anything, nor have I seen the Rev. Jackson prowling about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #40 January 17, 2006 Quote Time is more valuable than money. When you run out of time......you are out. Spend your time wisely....... be productive. GET YOUR ASS TO WORK! So time is a limited resource and we all run out someday. And you want to spend that precious limited time working more? That sounds awesome. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #41 January 17, 2006 QuoteNonsense. That's how we run our company (and it's a big one) and we've never been branded anything, nor have I seen the Rev. Jackson prowling about. "under the radar" is the greatest thing isn't it? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,589 #42 January 17, 2006 Something that occurred to me today is that Dr. Martin Luther King probably did as much as anyone in the US in the last great-number-of-years to prevent terrorism. He helped disenfranchised people with no investment in the current status quo to find a non-violent path to more power. While terrorism is often started by evil people, their soldiers are taken from the ranks of disenfranchised people with no investment in the current status quo. Just look at Palestine -- do you really think that every single one of those people are evil starters? No way. They just have no hope. Maybe, just maybe, he helped everyone. Yes, police can put down a lot of bad stuff. But, you know, it's better if the bad stuff doesn't happen in teh first place. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #43 January 17, 2006 I think the Dr had a lot of great thoughts, particularly considering the time he lived in. I just don't like how his name has been hijacked for much of what he didn't stand for. Especially when what he stood for was so 'right dead on' in a couple very important areas. Some temporary reincarnation of the good Dr occurs, occasionally, though and gives us hope http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1998735#1998735 ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #44 January 17, 2006 Lincoln abolished slavery in the US. He paid for it with a bullet at age 56. MLK was a leader in rendering lynchings such as this one in the 1950s unthinkable today: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060116/ap_on_re_us/bus_boycott_killing For that, he paid for it with a bullet at age 39. He did it through the non-violent means taught to us by Ghandi (who also, come to think of it, paid for it with a bullet). Hmm, see a pattern here? Lincoln and MLK were given a holiday to commemorate their sacrifice. I don't have a problem with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #45 January 17, 2006 Damn, at times like this I really wish I had a job so I could refuse the day off and go in and work. Cheers, Jon S. Well go out and get one. The rest of your rant is not worthy of comment. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OATSF14 0 #38 January 17, 2006 QuoteThe fact is that any business owner who attempts to run his business in a racially-neutral, color-blind manner, as Dr. King "dreamed," runs the risk of being branded a bigot and having Jesse Jackson and the federal government sniffing around and micro-managing the situation. Well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #39 January 17, 2006 >The fact is that any business owner who attempts to run his business > in a racially-neutral, color-blind manner, as Dr. King "dreamed," > runs the risk of being branded a bigot and having Jesse Jackson >and the federal government sniffing around and micro-managing the > situation. Nonsense. That's how we run our company (and it's a big one) and we've never been branded anything, nor have I seen the Rev. Jackson prowling about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #40 January 17, 2006 Quote Time is more valuable than money. When you run out of time......you are out. Spend your time wisely....... be productive. GET YOUR ASS TO WORK! So time is a limited resource and we all run out someday. And you want to spend that precious limited time working more? That sounds awesome. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #41 January 17, 2006 QuoteNonsense. That's how we run our company (and it's a big one) and we've never been branded anything, nor have I seen the Rev. Jackson prowling about. "under the radar" is the greatest thing isn't it? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #42 January 17, 2006 Something that occurred to me today is that Dr. Martin Luther King probably did as much as anyone in the US in the last great-number-of-years to prevent terrorism. He helped disenfranchised people with no investment in the current status quo to find a non-violent path to more power. While terrorism is often started by evil people, their soldiers are taken from the ranks of disenfranchised people with no investment in the current status quo. Just look at Palestine -- do you really think that every single one of those people are evil starters? No way. They just have no hope. Maybe, just maybe, he helped everyone. Yes, police can put down a lot of bad stuff. But, you know, it's better if the bad stuff doesn't happen in teh first place. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #43 January 17, 2006 I think the Dr had a lot of great thoughts, particularly considering the time he lived in. I just don't like how his name has been hijacked for much of what he didn't stand for. Especially when what he stood for was so 'right dead on' in a couple very important areas. Some temporary reincarnation of the good Dr occurs, occasionally, though and gives us hope http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1998735#1998735 ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #44 January 17, 2006 Lincoln abolished slavery in the US. He paid for it with a bullet at age 56. MLK was a leader in rendering lynchings such as this one in the 1950s unthinkable today: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060116/ap_on_re_us/bus_boycott_killing For that, he paid for it with a bullet at age 39. He did it through the non-violent means taught to us by Ghandi (who also, come to think of it, paid for it with a bullet). Hmm, see a pattern here? Lincoln and MLK were given a holiday to commemorate their sacrifice. I don't have a problem with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #45 January 17, 2006 Damn, at times like this I really wish I had a job so I could refuse the day off and go in and work. Cheers, Jon S. Well go out and get one. The rest of your rant is not worthy of comment. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #46 January 17, 2006 Who cares? A paid day off is a paid day off. I don't care who gets the credit. They could have a Saddam Hussein day and I'd be ok with it. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #47 January 17, 2006 And so did Tupac. Would you want a day for him too?. He really doesn't need one, as he keeps recording music and filming new movies evry now and then."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #48 January 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteMarty may deserve our respect, but why is he the only American considered worthy of a holiday in his name? I find this thread offensive, by both its title and its content. But the above comment is ridiculous when one considers the other holidays we celebrate. The fact is that MLK did more to pave the way to equal treatment of blacks than George Washington did to pave the way to equal treatment of colonists. After all, George lived to be our first president. MLK died before his potential could be realized. I'm almost ashamed to be posting on a site that permits posts entitled "It's Black Guy Day!" rl I am with you 100%.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #49 January 18, 2006 QuoteSomething that occurred to me today is that Dr. Martin Luther King probably did as much as anyone in the US in the last great-number-of-years to prevent terrorism. He helped disenfranchised people with no investment in the current status quo to find a non-violent path to more power. While terrorism is often started by evil people, their soldiers are taken from the ranks of disenfranchised people with no investment in the current status quo. Just look at Palestine -- do you really think that every single one of those people are evil starters? No way. They just have no hope. Maybe, just maybe, he helped everyone. Yes, police can put down a lot of bad stuff. But, you know, it's better if the bad stuff doesn't happen in teh first place. Wendy W. Great post - very well thought out.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #50 January 18, 2006 QuoteI'm almost ashamed to be posting on a site that permits posts entitled "It's Black Guy Day!" I rather like it myself. Makes it very easy to for people to show who they really are.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites