Airman1270 0 #1 January 16, 2006 Stupid, worthless, useless "holiday" imposed under duress by spineless politicians afraid of being smeared as "racists" if they didn't comply with the dictates of the "civil rights" plantation massas. The ironic thing is that, when these same politicians attempt to support policies which are in agreement with the basic philosophy of Dr. King, they are again smeared as bigots. The easiect way to be called a "racist" in America is to treat black people just like everybody else. Marty may deserve our respect, but why is he the only American considered worthy of a holiday in his name? Damn, at times like this I really wish I had a job so I could refuse the day off and go in and work. Cheers, Jon S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #2 January 16, 2006 That's a pretty harsh analysis. How do you feel about Columbus Day?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #3 January 16, 2006 >How do you feel about Columbus Day? That's OK; he was white. And of course Christmas is OK too. Jesus wasn't exactly white, but he is near and dear to the hearts of many, so that's OK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meltdown 0 #4 January 16, 2006 MLK deserves a day in his honor. It is sad, though, that his message is all but lost on todays black leaders (the Jackson/Farrakhan crowd that is). They hold him up as some kind of god, and yet ignore much of what he espoused in order to further their own agendas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #5 January 16, 2006 Santa is white too, so were the pilgrims, and the easter bunny (except the chocolate ones) So was Washington - luckily I get his day off too. We should get St Patrick's day off too. I'm not really sure what he did, but I'm sure he was a great man.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #6 January 16, 2006 >We should get St Patrick's day off too. I agree there! And have all bars stay open till 4am nationwide to celebrate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #7 January 16, 2006 MLK day is kind of a joke, since it's basically a government/financial holiday. I doubt if very many folks relaxing today are thinking about MLK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #8 January 16, 2006 Saddly enough, it is an irony that in anywhere US where a street has been named "MLK" is usually a hotspot for crime."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 January 16, 2006 So that's why I could get hold of anyone at work in the States today... you were all on holiday. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Usetawuz 1 #10 January 16, 2006 Interesting observations. Thought provoking. BTW, I'm not sure but I think both Geo. Washington and Abe Lincoln's birthdays were US holidays before they combined them into 'Presidents Day'. _________________________________________ The older I get, the better I was! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #11 January 16, 2006 QuoteI think both Geo. Washington and Abe Lincoln's birthdays were US holidays before they combined them into 'Presidents Day'.They were, and in Texas the state celebrates with holidays (or at least did when I worked for them) San Jacinto day, and Lyndon Johnson's birthday. I would be unlikely ever to object to a holiday. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 January 17, 2006 QuoteThat's OK; he was white. And of course Christmas is OK too. Jesus wasn't exactly white, but he is near and dear to the hearts of many, so that's OK. Dude.. he was a Jew.... WTF.. can we have a holiday for Jews??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #13 January 17, 2006 Black guy day?! Just got thru reading a bunch of Martin Luther King quotes, and none of them were about "black guys". They were some, however, about the obligation for ALL people to stand up for justice, and some about how America should live up to its stated ideals. no mention of "black guys" though. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 January 17, 2006 Quote>We should get St Patrick's day off too. I agree there! And have all bars stay open till 4am nationwide to celebrate. It would be a LOT more useful to get the day AFTER St. Patrick's day off. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #15 January 17, 2006 >no mention of "black guys" though. I think you're missing the point - he's BLACK. And you should judge people on what they look like, not what they say or what they do. I mean, you start judging people on what they do, and suddenly Stephen Hawking might start getting more attention than Britney Spears - and we can't have that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #16 January 17, 2006 Quote>We should get St Patrick's day off too. I agree there! And have all bars stay open till 4am nationwide to celebrate. My high school was St. Pats. We got that day off, and we had the option to march in the Chicago St. Patty's Day parade.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #17 January 17, 2006 Quote When is Ringtail Lemur Day?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeBobinNC 0 #18 January 17, 2006 QuoteQuoteThat's OK; he was white. And of course Christmas is OK too. Jesus wasn't exactly white, but he is near and dear to the hearts of many, so that's OK. Dude.. he was a Jew.... WTF.. can we have a holiday for Jews??? There are; Yom Kippur, Roshana, ect. I grew up in NY and got those days off from school. I moved to the south and started working of the federal gov't and lost those days off. It was a real culture shock. When you talk to people around here about knowing Jews you might as well be talking about Martians Also: IBTL It doesn't matter if a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #19 January 17, 2006 Dr. King - like anyone else - had his good and bad points. I think the reason this day is named after him was because of one of his good points - courage to stand up to a system of embedded racism and bigotry. I don't really think the intent of this day should be solely to focus on civil rights, but on the contribution that courage and individuality have made to American society. I really admire Dr. King in many respects - and detest him in others. I think the U.S. today would be a much worse and sorrier place had he not accomplished what he did in the civil rights movement. You are somewhat correct in stating that politicians feared being smeared as racists played a role in creating this holiday and that when politicians or anyone else supports policies that are in agreement with what Dr. King preached, they may be assured of being maligned as racists by the current civil rights leaders[sic]. The current 'leaders' of the civil rights movement in America - $harpton, Je$$e Jack$on, Farrakhan - are a disgrace to Dr. King's legacy. I like the holiday and support it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #20 January 17, 2006 Bill, you're not a civil rights leader per se, but in a large way you just made one of Airman's points for him with this witty riposte by implying that the only reason he's against the holiday is because of Dr. King's color. Nice job - would you like to make a donation to Ward Connerly's ACRI while you're at it? Columbus Day, for the information of all, celebrates the discovery of the Americas. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #21 January 17, 2006 Quote>We should get St Patrick's day off too. I agree there! And have all bars stay open till 4am nationwide to celebrate. Pulaski day is a holiday in Chicago.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #22 January 17, 2006 Quote>no mention of "black guys" though. I think you're missing the point - he's BLACK. And you should judge people on what they look like, not what they say or what they do. I mean, you start judging people on what they do, and suddenly Stephen Hawking might start getting more attention than Britney Spears - and we can't have that! Bad choice of bimbo - see this ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #23 January 17, 2006 >Bad choice of bimbo - see this . . . And of course I wouldn't have the same job I have today without Hedy Lamarr. (True!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #24 January 17, 2006 Dammit, I asked "When is Ringtail Lemur Day???"Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #25 January 17, 2006 QuoteMLK day is kind of a joke, since it's basically a government/financial holiday. I doubt if very many folks relaxing today are thinking about MLK. I used to have fun with people, though, when they would ask me what I did for the holiday. I'd say, quite seriously, "I was celebrating Dr. King's legacy." They'd get a little uncomfortable till I said "Nah, I went to [insert random 3-day weekend destination here]." That said, there's a radio station in Seattle (that normally plays just music and is about as apolitical as they get) that will play the *entire* "I Have a Dream" speech on MLK day. It's powerful stuff and few people get to hear it all the way through. A few years ago I sat in a Safeway parking lot for 20 minutes so I could hear the end."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites