kallend 2,175 #1 January 11, 2006 He's apparently given himself the authority to torture if he feels like it. www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/01/04/bush_could_bypass_new_torture_ban/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #2 January 11, 2006 Ya know, you and Bush sorta remind me of John Rich and guns ... Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #3 January 11, 2006 Quote Ya know, you and Bush sorta remind me of John Rich and guns ... But John Rich loves guns, and kallend doesn't seem to love bush so much... (well, not that kind of Bush anyway). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #4 January 11, 2006 QuoteBut John Rich loves guns, and kallend doesn't seem to love bush so much... The line between love and hate is very thin. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #5 January 12, 2006 QuoteThe line between love and hate is very thin. True... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #6 January 12, 2006 QuoteTrue... Hey, lately Bush has been the man I "love to hate" too . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #7 January 12, 2006 Quote But John Rich loves guns, and kallend doesn't seem to love bush so much... (well, not that kind of Bush anyway). You got your capital letters reversed. I like bush, not Bush. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #8 January 12, 2006 QuoteQuoteTrue... Hey, lately Bush has been the man I "love to hate" too . . . So, why do you think he left himself an out to ignore the anti-torture law unless he intends to use torture?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #9 January 12, 2006 Bitter Kallend... It must suck waking up every morning hating everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #10 January 12, 2006 QuoteSo, why do you think he left himself an out to ignore the anti-torture law unless he intends to use torture? It might intimidate some of the terrorists into useful behavior. And it plays well in Texas. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #11 January 12, 2006 QuoteQuote But John Rich loves guns, and kallend doesn't seem to love bush so much... (well, not that kind of Bush anyway). You got your capital letters reversed. I like bush, not Bush. Yeah, my writing skills are not so great... I had to think for a while about which bush should be capitalized to make my point, but I guess I chose the wrong one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #12 January 12, 2006 Quote. . . but I guess I chose the wrong one. I think you had it right the first time. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #13 January 12, 2006 QuoteSo, why do you think he left himself an out to ignore the anti-torture law unless he intends to use torture? In the "national interest", of course, which I don't see as a completely meritless argument (although I don't like it much either). . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 January 12, 2006 QuoteHe's apparently given himself the authority to torture if he feels like it. www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/01/04/bush_could_bypass_new_torture_ban/ Of course he will. He gave himself the authority before and even if there is a law against it, he will hold that as an option for the future. I can't say I -wouldn't- hold it open as an option, but I definately would be MUCH smarter and selective about it so that it had much less chance of being used against the U.S. Make no mistake. The U.S. has tortured in the past and will continue to do so in select circumstances no matter what the U.S. or International law says. It's simply foolish to do it on the -scale- that we've been doing it in the last few years. In general it doesn't work anyway, but I can see some -specific- instances where it might be useful and even justified. But this whole scale "secret" interrogation camp thing is simply stupid. We live in a world where a private citizen (forget foreign government) has access to 1 meter resolution remote imaging. The is simply NO WAY to hide that type of operation indefinately. It was simply too big.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #15 January 12, 2006 His administration will. Specifically, Rumsfeld and company will continue to pursue loopholes in laws that allow torture, and will suggest that it should be used in certain cases. And the righties will claim "no they won't" until he actually does it, at which point they will use the "ticking atomic bomb" argument again. But Bush? I honestly think he doesn't know what's going on sometimes in his administration. Cheney and Rumsfeld are much of the impetus behind the torture policy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #16 January 17, 2006 I think it is unrealistic to expect it to not happen in a war. I do however think it should be used sparingly and only with certain high value enemy personell. Randomly doing it will turn civilian populations against you and is counterproductive. Richards My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #17 January 17, 2006 QuoteRandomly doing it will turn civilian populations against you and is counterproductive. gee like that ever happens..... ooops was that my outside voice??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #18 January 17, 2006 Quote Bitter Kallend... It must suck waking up every morning hating everything. naive pajarito It must be wonderful waking up every morning thinking that torture is OK (and calling yourself a devout Catholic as well) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #19 January 17, 2006 Quoteand calling yourself a devout Catholic as well Did he convert or something? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
