Israeli PM Sharon Has Had Another Stroke

[tbrown 26]

Just saw this at Yahoo. Ariel Sharon has had another stroke, a really bad one this time. his powers to run the government have been handed over to the Vice PM, Ehud Olmert. Not looking good this time...

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[shropshire 0]

So Clinton got a blow job and all Sharon gets is a stroke.... bummer

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Sen.Blutarsky 0]

Certainly it was predictable that Sharon might suffer health problems. I mean, to crush terrorism Sharon had only to actually sit on terrorists. This guy was Israel’s biggest island. His girth exceeded the West Bank in scale.

Somebody close to the guy should have alerted Israeli geological stations and then sat him down, gently, for “the talk” to lose weight. I can’t think of another world leader whose fat got so out of control.

Not that Sharon hasn’t been under a great deal of stress, what with his tiny nation facing radical Islamicists hellbent on acquiring nuclear weapons to place on their missiles, vowing the country should be erased from the map. Exhibit A what stress can do to a person, my posts I offer as Exhibit B.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

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So Clinton got a blow job and all Sharon gets is a stroke.... bummer

That could make a good T-shirt...

"My friend Clinton got a blowjob and all I got was this lousy stroke"

[tbrown 26]

What a bunch of morons...

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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What a bunch of morons...

Yea no shit, pretty stupid. The bright side is that at least Blutarski couldn't find a way to tell us all how much money makes using this topic . . . yet.

Seriously though, you're right. Sharon doesn't look good at all. The Palestenians are probably baking up the party pies as we speak.

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[chuteless 1]

I admire Sharon...he is a man of action, and gutsy.

I like that very much.

The Gaza pullout was a big mistake....just encourages the Arabs to want more.

Bill Cole

[Darius11 12]

Sharon is a baby killer and a man with no mercy for anyone but his citizens.

Hope he likes it hot.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[billvon 3,116]

>and all Sharon gets is a stroke....

And Pat Robertson, who you can always count on for some absurd interpretations, announced today that this was God's wrath against someone who wants to "divide his land." ("His land" of course being Israel, as opposed to all the rest of the planet which is owned in a joint partnership between Vishnu, Thor and Microsoft.)

[Michele 1]

Pat Robertson is a twit.

Darius, I can understand your upset at Sharon; he has a checkered past at first glance. However, can I ask if you felt the same way when Yassir Arafat, arguably far more of a "baddie" than Sharon, died? And if not, why not?

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[Sen.Blutarsky 0]

One perspective ...

Israel's leader took a hard line, but had the political clout to make difficult decisions regarding the Palestinians.

Among Arabs, Sober Views Of Relations After Sharon

By Dan Murphy and Josh Mitnick

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL; AND CAIRO – As Arabs absorbed the news of Israel's ailing Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, there was little public optimism that any change in Israel's government would boost prospects for a lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Mr. Sharon is a reviled figure in the Arab world. As defense minister in 1982, he was found by the Israeli government to be indirectly responsible for the massacre of up to 2,000 Palestinians at refugee camps in Lebanon by Israel's Christian Lebanese allies.

This history, and his personal style, have led to shrugs at best and occasional expressions of glee in Arab capitals. But many experts on Israel-Palestinian relations say that with Sharon out of the political picture, Palestinians and their Arab allies may find he was their best possible friend.

"People say, 'the situation will only change when Israelis say, 'We were wrong, we're withdrawing from all occupied territories.' But this is far from correct,'' says Abdel Moneim Sayid, head of the Al Ahram Center in Cairo, a think tank. "You're losing a national figure ... he was capable of leading and taking difficult decisions. Right now, there's no one to replace him."

Just as President Nixon's conservative credentials let him to make a breakthrough visit to China in 1971, Sharon's hard-line credentials enabled him to make concessions that perhaps no other Israeli leader could.

Arabs see him as the man who killed the Oslo peace process, but followed that with compromises he could make politically palatable. He oversaw the emotional pullout from Gaza last August, and many Israeli analysts expected that if he formed the next government, he would make further concessions in the West Bank.

Gershon Baskin, the Israeli cochairman of the Israel-Palestinian Center for Research & Information and a Sharon critic, says Sharon wouldn't have achieved a final peace settlement, but would have improved prospects for those who followed him.

"He was intent on continuing this process of withdrawal, and hopefully coordinating with the Palestinians," Mr. Baskin says. "Even if it is a unilateral action, if he can remove 70 or 80 settlements, and take Israel out of 60 percent of the West Bank, ... that's enough for the next three years, and no one else in Israel is capable of doing that."

Baskin also says that Sharon's address at the UN in September, recognizing statehood as a Palestinian right, was a "leap forward."

To be sure, while Israelis see Sharon as a hawk who moved to the center, in the region he's often seen as having pulled Israel right. Shortly after becoming premier in 2001, he cut off peace talks and forged a course predicated on long-term security, rather than an eventual settlement. Even as he planned a Gaza pullout, for example, Sharon started building the controversial separation barrier. "The Palestinians look at him as the master of unilateralism," says Hanan Ashrawi, a Palestinian legislator. Still, Ms. Ashrawi says, Sharon's moves could be seen in a broader context.

"He hasn't negotiated, but he has dismantled the settlements, which was a precedent and we can't ignore that,'' Ashrawi says.

If Hamas, which supports Israel's destruction, does well in Palestinian elections later this month, analysts expect some Israelis to move right. Many who trusted Sharon even when they disagreed with him could throw their support to Likud's Benjamin Netanyahu, who opposed the Gaza pullout and seems unlikely to further peace efforts.

"Kadima ... changed the nature of the Israeli center," says Mr. Sayid. "[It] is based on trust of Sharon. In his absence, it won't do well. It will create a fractured society incapable of making decisions and a strengthened extremist right-wing - at a time when Palestinians will be moving right as well."

Source: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0106/p04s01-wome.html


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

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Bluto, I wasn't lumping you in with the morons, sorry if you thought I was. Without a doubt, Sharon is a "controversial" (and overweight) character. But whatever anyone thinks of him, he's a major player on the world stage, and this apparent end to his career, if not his life was breaking news last night. I found it a bit of a stretch to somehow link this bit of important news with Bubba Bill getting his cock sucked in the Offal Office...... But leave it to male skydivers, at least the younger ones. They feel lost if they have to go thinking about something beside their dicks for more than 15 seconds.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[Sen.Blutarsky 0]

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Bluto, I wasn't lumping you in with the morons,

It’s not uncommon for Mrs. Blutarsky to claim that The Senator is a moron, and she’s one astute lady. So your post would appear to rest on solid ground either way.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

[Darius11 12]

Yassir Arafat was a thief and he was the one with less power when you compare him to Sharon.

I don't see him as a baby killer I see him as someone who screwed his people by steeling money from them. Is he a bad person for doing that yes he is.

But is steeling the same as murder? Not in my book.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[shropshire 0]

Bushs' man of peace - Sharon - Ha! bullshit..Bullshit ...BULLSHIT

More like mass murderer... crimes against humanity by the bucket load ..... anyone interested should do a search for Sabra and Chatila refugee camps.. Then see what an ace chap he is.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[chuteless 1]

While I do think Sharon has had a day or two of fighting for Israel, I think the thousands of people who died as a result of Bush's stupidity makes him every bit as bad.


The "roadmap" for peace will NEVER produce anything but more killing.

Peace will ONLY come when Christ returns to Israel, and then Israel will turn to Christ.




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Bill Cole

[shropshire 0]

<< he has a checkered past >> The understatement of the thread....

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Yassir Arafat was a thief

how can you keep a straight face while calling Sharon a baby killer and a mass murderer while making Arafat nothing more than a petty thief?

you can disagree with some of Sharon's actions (I know i do), but at least he had the sense to realize the only way to peace is to compromise and divide this land. something Arafat (and sadly, his current followers) failed to do.

I find it a bit interesting that the only two people i've heard wishing for his death are you and your beloved Iranian president...

O

"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

[juanesky 0]

The problem is that any thoughts in the palestinian conflict, is all stagnated in the thought that only Palestinians are the only suffering victims and they do not have any terrorists.

Funny how someone already exemplify of Sharon's ties to the Christian Lebanese, that were fighting the OLP in their home land, Lebanon, but noone points that they were fending off extermination by muslims.....

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

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Funny how someone already exemplify of Sharon's ties to the Christian Lebanese, that were fighting the OLP in their home land, Lebanon, but noone points that they were fending off extermination by muslims.....

actually the sabra and Chatilla incident is a stain.
its far from being Sharon's fault (as you said, Christian Lebanese massacared muslim Lebanese as part of their ongoing civil war), but knowing the hatred between them, Sharon should have forseen this risk and stopped them before they acted. this caused him to be removed from his position of defense minister and he was stained for life.

I remember what were the reactions around the world when he was first elected (I shared some of them) and i see the way he is seen now.
the basic fact is that because his hard line and militaristic history, he was pretty much the only one who could lead the region into a new age (as always the PA did nothing to contribute...).
i just hope he did enough to set things in motion and that the process will continue in the west bank (although it will harder without the PA doing anything to control their people).
O

"Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

[juanesky 0]

I agree with you that his actions were harsh, and that perhaps most will argue the tough choices faced in the Lebanese civil war were radical, but, in the other hand, your comment in regards to Sharon being a "child murderer", while grossly downplaying Arafat's terrorist activities to a simple Thief adjudication, is biased and very demonstrative that there is no peace accord reachable under the PA (and most of the arab world) premise that the Israelis should be wiped out of the area.

And to top it off, while most of the Arab world also vehemently protest about their palestinian brothers conditions, they keep them in their own homeland's a refugee status (read that as condemned to no rights whatsoever). I could never figure that one out.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[Darius11 12]

And to top it off, while most of the Arab world also vehemently protest about their palestinian brothers conditions, they keep them in their own homeland's a refugee status (read that as condemned to no rights whatsoever). I could never figure that one out.

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As I am sure you know. The Arab world and the Persians do contribute money and arms to the Palestinian fight.According to your point of view this should make you happy that the Arab world is helping each other out.
The western world of course says that is the wrong thing to do I think they would just prefer if we let them all be slaughtered. I on the other hand think we should help out the Palestinians to the best of our capability.
If I had to choose help to win back my homeland or to become a refugee I know what my choice would be. Give me the guns any day.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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[juanesky 0]

And again you missed the whole point. Instead of trully helping their Palestinian brothers with citizens rights, or those as a legal resident alliens in those arab countries they are condemned to live as refugees secluded in very shitty conditions and without much rights, they choose the already proven path that no accord is reachable, one whose goal is to live in peace and harmony in a shared land.

It is sad that you prove my point, with regards to the only solution set in the arab and persian mind is the anihilation of the Israelis.

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[Darius11 12]

Compromise is a two-sided thing. You can’t take my home by force then expect me to compromise to leave peacefully in the basement.

The easy way is not always the best way.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[juanesky 0]

Your home? oh I forgot. That is a one sided view. Will never accept that Israel has a right to exist.....

Have a great weekend.!

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon