sfc 1 #101 January 9, 2006 Quotei'm still waiting for the numbers of high school massacres in the last ten years for America V UK He's probably having trouble counting, that is a lot of research you asked him to do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #102 January 9, 2006 i'll help him out http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/22/school.shooting/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/20/newsid_2489000/2489639.stm http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/07/national/main276948.shtml i can't be bothered googling any more, but i'm sure i've seen loads more on our news thank god guns are there for protection ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #103 January 9, 2006 QuoteThis is a link to a DoJ survey from 1997, the NRA recons this grows at 1% a year, so taking that (unsubstantiated) claim into account you still only get 34%. So let's say you are correct. Does that mean that it's okay to eliminate a constitutional right from one-third of all citizens? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #104 January 9, 2006 QuoteTo me, it just shows that your drunkards and other miscreants have your society by the balls, and it's, "Kiss our asses and appease us or we'll run riot through your towns every night when the bars close, because we're just socially maladjusted animals who can't behave in a civil, lawful manner." Hey, why should they stop with candy bars? I say provide some street clowns for amusing entertainment, maybe some roving guitar players, and a three-course all-you-can-eat buffet. Turn every night into a full scale street party. That'll teach those darn criminals a lesson! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #105 January 10, 2006 QuoteQuoteTo me, it just shows that your drunkards and other miscreants have your society by the balls, and it's, "Kiss our asses and appease us or we'll run riot through your towns every night when the bars close, because we're just socially maladjusted animals who can't behave in a civil, lawful manner." Hey, why should they stop with candy bars? I say provide some street clowns for amusing entertainment, maybe some roving guitar players, and a three-course all-you-can-eat buffet. Turn every night into a full scale street party. That'll teach those darn criminals a lesson! hey !!! good idea, i'm already on it ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #106 January 10, 2006 QuoteQuoteThis is a link to a DoJ survey from 1997, the NRA recons this grows at 1% a year, so taking that (unsubstantiated) claim into account you still only get 34%. So let's say you are correct. Does that mean that it's okay to eliminate a constitutional right from one-third of all citizens? I don't agree with a hand gun ban in the USA, so in this case no, anyway more than 50% disagree with a ban, that is democracy at work. What I take issue with is your slamming of the UK, there is no right to guns in the UK, continuously raising this as a reason not to ban in the USA is BS and I will continue to call it that, I have no problem with attacking the idea of a ban IN THE USA, but please stop dragging other countries into this, you are deliberately clouding an issue which most people agree with you on (in principle, we can argue about .50 rifles later ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #107 January 10, 2006 QuoteYou were in a one year's vacation for a reason. Holy crap! Your posts still are lowest level, you still love just to stir the pot. This forum is for stirring controversial pots -- maybe you didn't get the memo. But I'm not doing "personal attacks," so why don't you leave me the fuck alone or just address what I had to say? -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #108 January 10, 2006 QuoteThere is also the person who has to prove that "my dick is bigger than yours" as well, some do it with guns... Some do it with canopies... -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #109 January 10, 2006 QuoteI have no problem with attacking the idea of a ban IN THE USA, but please stop dragging other countries into this, you are deliberately clouding an issue which most people agree with you on (in principle, we can argue about .50 rifles later ) You can help us out, then, by telling international gun prohibitionists like Rebecca Peters, who work with the fuckin' U.N. to extend gun control like you have in the U.K. to countries that don't want it and shouldn't have it, like the U.S. We are not the ones "dragging other countries into this." There are those in the U.K. and elsewhere who vocally tell US that WE should import U.K.-style gun bans. Why should we be restricted from advocating gun ownership abroad, then? But there I go again, "stirring the pot"... Not contributing anything to the discussion. At least I don't just drop into a thread to criticize what others choose to talk about and then not say anything related to the thread's topic. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #110 January 10, 2006 Quote You can help us out, then, by telling international gun prohibitionists like Rebecca Peters, who work with the fuckin' U.N. to extend gun control like you have in the U.K. to countries that don't want it and shouldn't have it, like the U.S. And relieve you of the pleasure of writing an vitriolic missive yourself, never. Besides I can't be arsed to write to someone about it, it is not a big deal to me. Quote We are not the ones "dragging other countries into this." Bollocks, the first post in this thread was entirely the UK. Quote There are those in the U.K. and elsewhere who vocally tell US that WE should import U.K.-style gun bans. Oh, those big bad scary Brits they might come and take my guns away. (Psst. actually the last time that might have happened was a few hundred years ago, no one tells the US what to do any more.) Quote Why should we be restricted from advocating gun ownership abroad, then? You are not restricted from doing so, but when you do it will be called out fro the BS that it is. Quote But there I go again, "stirring the pot"... Not contributing anything to the discussion. At least you are honest about it. It is entertaining though, makes me laugh while when I'm bored shitless at work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #111 January 10, 2006 QuoteBesides I can't be arsed to write to someone about it, it is not a big deal to me. But you had also written: QuoteI have no problem with attacking the idea of a ban IN THE USA... If you have no problem with attacking the idea of a (U.K.-style) ban iin the U.S.A., then please do so. Write letters to those who are trying to push such a ban, opposing the idea of it, as you say you do. QuoteOh, those big bad scary Brits they might come and take my guns away. (Psst. actually the last time that might have happened was a few hundred years ago, no one tells the US what to do any more.) Pure sophistry. I don't know why you bother. Clearly it won't be actual Brits, but people in legislative positions of power and advocacy in the U.S. acting on the suggestions of Brits, who will attempt to strip from us our right to keep and bear arms. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites artistcalledian 0 #112 January 10, 2006 Can i ask any American who carries a gun, when you go abroad (not that you probably do, only 10% of Americans has a passport ) do you feel vulnerable without your gun? If you don't, why do you think that is?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #113 January 10, 2006 QuoteCan i ask any American who carries a gun, when you go abroad (not that you probably do, only 10% of Americans has a passport ) do you feel vulnerable without your gun? If you don't, why do you think that is? I'm not interested in having you do an amateur psychoanalysis on me. I doubt that you are a qualified psychologist, for one thing. For another, even a qualified one could not make a valid assessment over dropzone.com... I am "any American who carries a gun." I don't like when I am not able to carry it for one reason or another because I am quite used to it, and knowing that it is one more piece of equipment that can help me out of a jam. I have never had to draw or fire it at another person -- never been robbed or accosted in that manner, although there have been times I maybe was close. But knowing that IF such an event were to occur, it is nice knowing that I have something more than my fists or *ahem* a can of deodorant with which I can defend myself. Some people strap a fire extinguisher into their vehicle somewhere, just in case. I don't feel this is much different. Both will probably not have to use it, but in the event that it is necessary, it can be very necessary. I haven't been out of the U.S. in some years. When I was, I was not yet a gun owner. Now that I am, yes, it would bug me to not have the ability to carry a gun with me -- especially with the state of the world, and humanity's mindframe, today. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #114 January 10, 2006 I'm sure that if I had the knack of pissing people off, that some people around here have.... Then I'd feel naked without a gun too (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #115 January 10, 2006 It's a pity they're not legal for Ian to carry. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #116 January 10, 2006 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #117 January 11, 2006 Quote I'm sure that if I had the knack of pissing people off, that some people around here have.... Then I'd feel naked without a gun too What, pissing off Brits? I can deal with their reprisals using naught but a long, pointy umbrella! "Avast! Have at thee, foul miscreant!" ...And several butchers' aprons. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sfc 1 #118 January 11, 2006 QuoteQuote I'm sure that if I had the knack of pissing people off, that some people around here have.... Then I'd feel naked without a gun too What, pissing off Brits? everyone I've answered the question for you.Quote I can deal with their reprisals using naught but a long, pointy umbrella! "Avast! Have at thee, foul miscreant!" These days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #119 January 11, 2006 QuoteThese days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. So now you talk more like the guys in 'A Clockwork Orange', right? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #120 January 11, 2006 QuoteThese days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. More's the pity. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #121 January 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteThese days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. So now you talk more like the guys in 'A Clockwork Orange', right? They live it... why not talk it? -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #122 January 12, 2006 Quoteit would bug me to not have the ability to carry a gun with me I bet you would get your ass handed to you in any kind of fight that didn't involve brandishing your penis extension.... sorry, I meant to say gun.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #123 January 12, 2006 I bet you get yourself banned from here for making personal attacks (before long). -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sfc 1 #124 January 12, 2006 QuoteI bet you get yourself banned from here for making personal attacks (before long). -Jeffrey I can't see an PA here, do you feel that he attacked your penis or your gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #125 January 12, 2006 I can. Why he would make a remark about a very private part of his anatomy? Maybe "veiled" has no meaning to you does it?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 5 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
peacefuljeffrey 0 #111 January 10, 2006 QuoteBesides I can't be arsed to write to someone about it, it is not a big deal to me. But you had also written: QuoteI have no problem with attacking the idea of a ban IN THE USA... If you have no problem with attacking the idea of a (U.K.-style) ban iin the U.S.A., then please do so. Write letters to those who are trying to push such a ban, opposing the idea of it, as you say you do. QuoteOh, those big bad scary Brits they might come and take my guns away. (Psst. actually the last time that might have happened was a few hundred years ago, no one tells the US what to do any more.) Pure sophistry. I don't know why you bother. Clearly it won't be actual Brits, but people in legislative positions of power and advocacy in the U.S. acting on the suggestions of Brits, who will attempt to strip from us our right to keep and bear arms. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #112 January 10, 2006 Can i ask any American who carries a gun, when you go abroad (not that you probably do, only 10% of Americans has a passport ) do you feel vulnerable without your gun? If you don't, why do you think that is?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #113 January 10, 2006 QuoteCan i ask any American who carries a gun, when you go abroad (not that you probably do, only 10% of Americans has a passport ) do you feel vulnerable without your gun? If you don't, why do you think that is? I'm not interested in having you do an amateur psychoanalysis on me. I doubt that you are a qualified psychologist, for one thing. For another, even a qualified one could not make a valid assessment over dropzone.com... I am "any American who carries a gun." I don't like when I am not able to carry it for one reason or another because I am quite used to it, and knowing that it is one more piece of equipment that can help me out of a jam. I have never had to draw or fire it at another person -- never been robbed or accosted in that manner, although there have been times I maybe was close. But knowing that IF such an event were to occur, it is nice knowing that I have something more than my fists or *ahem* a can of deodorant with which I can defend myself. Some people strap a fire extinguisher into their vehicle somewhere, just in case. I don't feel this is much different. Both will probably not have to use it, but in the event that it is necessary, it can be very necessary. I haven't been out of the U.S. in some years. When I was, I was not yet a gun owner. Now that I am, yes, it would bug me to not have the ability to carry a gun with me -- especially with the state of the world, and humanity's mindframe, today. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #114 January 10, 2006 I'm sure that if I had the knack of pissing people off, that some people around here have.... Then I'd feel naked without a gun too (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #115 January 10, 2006 It's a pity they're not legal for Ian to carry. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #116 January 10, 2006 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #117 January 11, 2006 Quote I'm sure that if I had the knack of pissing people off, that some people around here have.... Then I'd feel naked without a gun too What, pissing off Brits? I can deal with their reprisals using naught but a long, pointy umbrella! "Avast! Have at thee, foul miscreant!" ...And several butchers' aprons. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #118 January 11, 2006 QuoteQuote I'm sure that if I had the knack of pissing people off, that some people around here have.... Then I'd feel naked without a gun too What, pissing off Brits? everyone I've answered the question for you.Quote I can deal with their reprisals using naught but a long, pointy umbrella! "Avast! Have at thee, foul miscreant!" These days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #119 January 11, 2006 QuoteThese days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. So now you talk more like the guys in 'A Clockwork Orange', right? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #120 January 11, 2006 QuoteThese days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. More's the pity. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #121 January 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteThese days it is more likely to be "fuck off arsehole" followed by a beer glass, we don't talk like the bard any more. So now you talk more like the guys in 'A Clockwork Orange', right? They live it... why not talk it? -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #122 January 12, 2006 Quoteit would bug me to not have the ability to carry a gun with me I bet you would get your ass handed to you in any kind of fight that didn't involve brandishing your penis extension.... sorry, I meant to say gun.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #123 January 12, 2006 I bet you get yourself banned from here for making personal attacks (before long). -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #124 January 12, 2006 QuoteI bet you get yourself banned from here for making personal attacks (before long). -Jeffrey I can't see an PA here, do you feel that he attacked your penis or your gun? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #125 January 12, 2006 I can. Why he would make a remark about a very private part of his anatomy? Maybe "veiled" has no meaning to you does it?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
