JohnRich 4 #1 January 4, 2006 Quotelatest news... 12 dead... 1 alive Isn't it ironic that CNN makes the decision to publish what turns out to be an incorrect story based upon faulty information, while at the same time crying about how Bush lied about the reasons for the war in Iraq, based upon faulty information? I expect CNN to print a page-one apology about how they lied to America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #2 January 4, 2006 QuoteIsn't it ironic that CNN makes the decision to publish what turns out to be an incorrect story based upon faulty information, while at the same time crying about how Bush lied about the reasons for the war in Iraq, based upon faulty information? I expect CNN to print a page-one apology about how they lied to America. I'm not going to defend CNN, or any other member of the media for that matter... because they're all scum. However, I just want to point out that CNN's lie didn't cause a war... so let's not try to bring a "feel bad for Bush, the poor misunderstood genius who only does what he thinks is right for the people of the world" rant into this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #3 January 4, 2006 How many people died as a result of CNN's inaccurately reporting this story? Oh, and welcome to Speaker's Corner. Nice work. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #4 January 4, 2006 QuoteI expect CNN to print a page-one apology about how they lied to America. Yes CNN should apologize for this blunder. Now this is a question (not a statement) but who actually leaked this information about 12 survivors? Was it CNN or something like Rueters? A local (free publication) newspaper ran a story today in their rag about the 12 survivors and I couldn't help but think that they're not really happy with themselves today as well and while it is a free rag, one wonders if they will issue an apology as well. Oh and 1 surviror is better than none ... Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #5 January 4, 2006 Hmm I didnt know it was CNN that broke this, but I did hear the spokesman for the mining company apologize. So perhaps this thread is complete bullshit. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 January 4, 2006 QuoteI expect CNN to print a page-one apology about how they lied to America. it's ok, Clinton got a blowjob ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #7 January 4, 2006 The Chicago edition of USA Today carried "12 miners alive!" on its front page. I bought a few because it reminded me of "Dewey Defeats Truman" somewhat. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #8 January 4, 2006 JR has something bothering him so he's in his destructive cycle again. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 January 4, 2006 QuoteJR has something bothering him so he's in his destructive cycle again. copy - paste - post . copy - paste - post . copy - paste - post . copy - paste - post . But you have to admit, UntamedD's PA on Flygurl did get a very good response from JR. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #10 January 4, 2006 I believe the story broke because a mining supervisor or someone located in the command post over heard radio communication that the rescue team said, "We found them!!". With that small amount of information he made a cell phone call to a friend who was located at the church where the families of those missing where staying. It snow balled from there. The Mining company did not intend for this information to be released because they were in the process of tending to one survivor and recovery efforts of the dead. CNN, Fox News, CNBC....got rapped up in the emotional event think the rumors they were hearing from the church and the singing was good news and relied on the words of the family that the story was correct without first confirming them with the Rescue Team. It appears all survived the explosion, and made every effort to baracade themselves in an area that had fairly good air, but all their efforts were not enough to save themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #11 January 4, 2006 >while at the same time crying about how Bush lied about the reasons >for the war in Iraq, based upon faulty information? Ah yes. They should have said "Bush made statements that were known to not be reliably true." Lied is such a harsh word; so politically incorrect nowadays. >I expect CNN to print a page-one apology about how they lied to America. The Times has already done so (about publishing misleading claims that Saddam had WMD's.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #12 January 4, 2006 >But you have to admit, UntamedD's PA on Flygurl did get a very good response from JR. true, that. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #13 January 4, 2006 Is it possible that they found more survivers, but in the time it took them to get the surviving Miner out the others parished? They had to carry him close to 3/4 of a mile I believe as the EMT's were working on him. They had no idea how they were going to get 12 dying people out of the mine in a quick fashion. Didn't it take close to 45 minutes to get the surviving one out? I am not implying this happened of course but it could be possible for more deaths to have occured while they saved the first. It would be very gutsy for them to try and cover that up however, as there would be too great of a possibility that the truth could come out That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #14 January 5, 2006 It was a miscommunication passed on from the scene. Several media sources carried it. Should they apologize? Yes - to the families more than anything else. Why did this happen? Trying to get unsecured news on the air 5 seconds before your competition.....which gets you bigger ratings and more revenue. This isn't just CNN's fault - it is how all of the media work. It's systemic._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #15 January 5, 2006 Agreed. The news is no longer that. It hasn't been for quite a while now unfortunately. It will continue to suck as long as people watch the 'news' to be entertained, not informed. The goal of CNN NBC CBS FOX ETC os to sell you stuff you don't really need, not educate you or inform you. Is it any wonder that they f-up?illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #16 January 5, 2006 QuoteShould they apologize? Yes - to the families more than anything else. Why did this happen? Trying to get unsecured news on the air 5 seconds before your competition.....which gets you bigger ratings and more revenue. Does it really, though? Have you ever chosen your preferred news outlet because they got the news on the air even 5 hours before the competition? How about 5 minutes? I think that they make a big deal out of it, but whether it's an hour later or anything -- I am skeptical about whether that loses them revenue or anything. It's like Coca Cola spending tens of millions of dollars to advertise. I've never believed that they would not stay in business and continue to earn huge profits if they scaled back to subsistence-level advertising -- you know, just keeping the public aware that they still exist. To believe that Coke ads or Mountain Dew ads cause people to drink those beverages by putting "sex" into the commercials is to believe the very worst about the stupidity of humanity. I just wish I didn't have to do it. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #17 January 5, 2006 Quote Does it really, though? Sadly it does. Pay attention to how sensational the news gets in May and Nov (aka Sweeps). They go out of the way to grab as much of the audience share as possible. When the rating book comes in, the sales department sets their billing rates around these numbers. The better the ratings, the more revenue that time slot generates. You can get midbook updates to your ratings as well...those are usually not published, but you can obtain them. If their are any viewership spikes during that time, you use it to raise your billrate (they never have to publicize if their numbers went down)._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #18 January 5, 2006 How can you have a opinion, you neither watch the news nor read it. Which is obvious from this threadSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #19 January 5, 2006 it all comes down to attribution. I believe that the original story came over the AP wire. It stated that family members claimed that 11 out of 12 were found alive. That line is factually correct. Family members were reporting that, that is how the story broke. Those news outlets that did not attribute their information to some one made the mistake, and they should apologize for that. However, they did not make up the story, they forgot to put in the correct attribution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #20 January 6, 2006 from reading the apology in the SF Chronicle this morning, they mentioned the source as the Governor of West Viginia and a congresswoman. The article also mentioned that the mining company knew about the misquote but didn't try to fix it for almost 3 hours QuoteStill, when the governor speaks, it's hard not to listen. And when the families erupt into celebration, it's hard not to believe what you see. Yes, the paper should have qualified the developments more carefully -- emphasizing, for example, that there was no immediate verification from the company, International Coal Group Inc. It now appears that someone among the rescuers misspoke or someone misheard, setting off the jubilant but misguided reaction. The mining company compounded the situation because it knew within minutes that the report was wrong but said nothing for three hours. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #21 January 6, 2006 QuoteHow can you have a opinion, you neither watch the news nor read it. Which is obvious from this thread You don't know shit. How could you even allege to know this? It's so "obvious," that you're 100% incorrect about it? WOW! That's freakin' OBVIOUS! -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #22 January 6, 2006 QuoteIt now appears that someone among the rescuers misspoke or someone misheard, setting off the jubilant but misguided reaction. The mining company compounded the situation because it knew within minutes that the report was wrong but said nothing for three hours. It's those three hours which piss me off, and I am simply an observer of events. I have no idea why they waited, and any reason that could possibly be conceived of is utter bullshit. They knew; they needed to say something...and they didn't, for many, many hours. There is NO excuse, reasoning, or explanation that I would accept for that delay. Utter bullshit. Ciels- MIchele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #23 January 6, 2006 uhhh it was obvious that you had not read anything when 16 hours after they were known to in fact be dead, that you came on here saying "youve got to be kidding me?" get over yourself...I may not be great at spelling but I can use spellcheck when I want to.... you will hmmm still be you Im avoiding the PAs I figure its only a matter of time before you crawl back into your holeSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #24 January 6, 2006 Yeah, you're avoiding them real well. Just because I had not availed myself of the news that day (I'd been busy) you surmised that I never read the paper or watch the news. Very good. Believe what you want. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #25 January 6, 2006 Yeah, I'll definitely agree with you Misha, they SHOULD have said something.By not saying anything, they only hurt those involved multiple times worse than they already were.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
