craddock 0 #26 January 4, 2006 Not what she said. It was pretty clear what she was saying I thought. It is not usually a grim note to find someone alive when most hope is already gone for that scenerio That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #27 January 4, 2006 QuoteThats not what I said.... I said on a GRIM note... one was found.... blow it off, baby. blow it off. not worth it. remember your advice to one drunk sheep fucker... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #28 January 4, 2006 NEWS FLASH... interupting Leno right now... 12 miners found alive... no other news... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #29 January 4, 2006 Good news, but sorry about the 13 that was found dead. This is going to be very interesting to find out how the 12 survived the ordeal. Good news!!!!!On a side note... someone posted the horricific way they thought to die, like burning, or drowning. I think being eaten alive by a lion, or some other aninmal would be horrific._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #30 January 4, 2006 I hope you're not kidding. One died, but 12 alive? Wait, what was the total missing again? -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #31 January 4, 2006 12 + 1 = 13Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #32 January 4, 2006 Quote12 + 1 = 13 *golf clap* Well done, Lisa, well done indeed! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #33 January 4, 2006 Peej, 13 were missing. One body was found, basically intact and without a mask. The others have been found alive, but no real information has been announced other than that; they were something on the order of 2 miles underground, and there were very high carbon monoxide levels so the damage could still be severe. They need a very quick assessment and treatment, but they have done a great job in staying alive. However, I do consider this an order of miracle; there had been very little hope, and when the body was found, most people began to believe that nothing good was going to come from this. And yet, 12 people have survived, with only one death. Good news. Good news indeed. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #34 January 4, 2006 (brief hijack) happy new year, michele! still prayin for your pop! love you! m I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #35 January 4, 2006 Michael, thanks for that. I don't know what day he gets tested, but I think it's Friday. I spent some time with him today, and he seems like he's doing very well; good color, no problems breathing, and I was helping him costume for an audition. LOL!! But we'll know more soon, and I'll update the thread. Much love to you and my Tennessee family; have a blessed new year filled with love and joy. (brief hijack over...) Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #36 January 4, 2006 QuoteHowever, I do consider this an order of miracle; there had been very little hope, and when the body was found, most people began to believe that nothing good was going to come from this. And yet, 12 people have survived, with only one death. Good news. Good news indeed. Ciels- Michele Agreed, it's better news than many had hoped for. Miraculous, yes. Miracle? No. I don't believe in actual "miracles." What is thought of as a miraculous survival is really just the balance of the weight of all the circumstances. If circumstances had been bad enough to cause the death of the other 12, then guess what -- they would have been killed. Their survival simply means that as bad as the disaster was thought to be, it wasn't enough to kill all 13 people. It's kind of a tautology. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #37 January 4, 2006 wow , profound... deep .... Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #38 January 4, 2006 you're such a kill-joy. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #39 January 4, 2006 you cant negate what those 13 men went through because you define it as "not bad enough" this disaster WAS enough to kill 13 people , it killed one, the other 12 were saved because of human intervention.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #40 January 4, 2006 Latest news - the release of the news saying 12 alive was a mistake. Actually only 1 was alive and 11 were dead. Tragic and quite a tremendous fuck up on someones behalf. CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #41 January 4, 2006 PJ, you can consider it what you want. I shall consider it what I want, all right? Deal. However, it seems that someone fucked up big; not the media, they were just reporting what they had been told. But the news came that the remaining 12 were alive and in a barricade of sorts. The truth is that one was alive, and the rest were dead. And that, friends, is a fucked situation however you look at it. How utterly horrifying for the families, to have heard they're alive and then that they're dead. How utterly unconsionable for those releasing the news to have done so without verification. And I hope the families end up owning the mine, the mining company, and everything the mining company owners currently own. What news to wake up to this morning. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #42 January 4, 2006 This is all very sad. I cann't even begin to know how these people feel. The massive reversal of emotions is unimaginable. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #43 January 5, 2006 Quoteyou cant negate what those 13 men went through because you define it as "not bad enough" this disaster WAS enough to kill 13 people , it killed one, the other 12 were saved because of human intervention. If a 10 ton weight dropped from a crane, that's "enough to squash a little old lady flat and kill her." But if the weight falls from the crane 112 feet away from where she's standing and doesn't kill her, the fact that she didn't die is not a miracle. If these miners were in a shaft that collapsed, but no in the part that did the collapsing; and they had enough air to last them til they were dug out; then it's not a "miracle" that they survived -- it's lucky, and it's fortunate, but it's due to the fact that the actual events did not transpire in such a way as to kill them. No miracle here. Just good fortune for the majority of the miners. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #44 January 5, 2006 QuoteLatest news - the release of the news saying 12 alive was a mistake. Actually only 1 was alive and 11 were dead. Tragic and quite a tremendous fuck up on someones behalf. You gotta be fuckin' kidding me. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #45 January 5, 2006 Guess it was enough to kill them huh? Read a headline somewhere besides DZ.com and maybe you wont come running your mouth without knowing the events ...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #46 January 5, 2006 QuoteGuess it was enough to kill them huh? Read a headline somewhere besides DZ.com and maybe you wont come running your mouth without knowing the events ... ...said the woman who was so quick to believe a miracle had taken place. Wow you continue to crack me up. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #47 January 5, 2006 Quoteyou cant negate what those 13 men went through because you define it as "not bad enough" this disaster WAS enough to kill 13 people , it killed one, the other 12 were saved because of human intervention. Oh gee, look who also believed erroneous information about the survival of the trapped miners! -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #48 January 5, 2006 where did I say a miracle had taken place? You got me mixed up with someone else... Put the drugs done and read.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #49 January 6, 2006 Quotewhere did I say a miracle had taken place? You got me mixed up with someone else... Put the drugs done and read. No drugs here -- never have been -- so I can't put them "done." Sorry, I think I did confuse your response with someone else's, actually. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #50 January 7, 2006 LOL. It doesn't matter what the topic, what the thread, everything you write gets savaged by RL or LMWB. What *did* you do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
