kallend 2,150 #26 December 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteAnd that is the problem with the current "Spy on Citizens without a Warrant" scandal - no safeguards against abuse of power. So, unless a 'system' has 100% foolproof safegaurds, it shouldn't be allowed... Let's abolish wiretaps altogether, since there's no way to guarantee an agent won't tap his girlfriend/wife's phone. Let's abolish computers, because they're prone to abuse in too many ways to list. Let's take away their power to arrest, because an officer may arrest someone, just to inconvenience them. Jeff Logical fallacy - false dichotomy. It's not either 100% foolproof or no safeguards at all. Due process in obtaining a warrant is a pretty good safeguard even if not 100%.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #27 December 23, 2005 QuoteI work for the phone company. I have access to everybody's phone records in the entire Southeast US - even unlisted numbers. So err... "Jeff", wasn't it? Jeff mate, If WE gave you a list of names of all the effin' telemarketer companies that call us at $hitty times... Then YOU can give us numbers to 'phone them back with offers that "might" interest THEM ? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites