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Well...........

The Mayan long count calendar will reset to all zeros on Dec. 22nd,2012...........could be then and there.....

Or most likely when our sun goes "nova";)




If the Mayans were so smart that they could figure out we had until 2012... where the fuck are they NOW? :P


My personal belief is that the world will end not a moment later than it is enveloped by the explosion of the sun. :D


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As the Sun ages, helium collects in its center. After a lifetime of 9 billion years as main-sequence star, approximately 10% of the hydrogen in the Sun's core will have been converted into helium and nuclear fusion reactions will cease producing energy. The equilibrium between the total pressure force directed outwards and the gravitational force directed towards the centre of the Sun will be disturbed. The core of the Sun starts slowly collapsing under its own gravitational attraction. Fusion moves outward to a shell surrounding the core, where hydrogen-rich material is still present. The gravitational energy from the collapse will be converted into heat causing the shell to burn vigorously and so the Sun's outer layers to swell immensely. The surface is now far removed from the central energy source, cools and appears to glow red. The Sun now evolves into the stage of a red giant. For a few hundred million years, the expansion of the outer solar layers will continue, and the Sun will engulf the planet Mercury. The temperature on Venus and Earth will rise tremendously. Hydrogen fusion in the shell continues to deposit helium "ash" onto the core, which becomes even hotter and more massive.

In the Sun's core nuclear fusion of helium into carbon and oxygen will start to trigger even further the expansion of its outer layers. The helium-rich core is unable to lose heat fast enough and becomes unstable. In a very short time of few hours the core gets too hot and is forced to expand explosively. Outer layers of the Sun will absorb the core explosion but the core will no longer be able to produce energy by thermonuclear burning. Helium fusion then continues in a shell and the structure of the Sun would look like an onion: An outer, hydrogen-fusion layer and an inner, helium-fusion layer which surrounds an inert core of carbon and oxygen.

The old Sun may repeat the cycle of shrinking and swelling several times. In this stage of evolution the Sun is called an asymptotic giant branch star. Finally enough carbon will accumulate in the core to prevent the core explosion. Helium-shell burning will add heat to the outer layers of the Sun, mainly containing hydrogen and helium. The asymptotic giant Sun will generate eventually an intense wind that begins to carry off its outer envelope. The precise mechanism behind this phenomenon is not yet well understood. The Sun will expand a final time and after about 30 million years it will swallow Venus and Earth, outer layers will keep expanding outward and as much as half of the Sun's mass gets lost into space.
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As the Sun ages, helium collects in its center. After a lifetime of 9 billion years as main-sequence star, approximately 10% of the hydrogen in the Sun's core will have been converted into helium and nuclear fusion reactions will cease producing energy. The equilibrium between the total pressure force directed outwards and the gravitational force directed towards the centre of the Sun will be disturbed. The core of the Sun starts slowly collapsing under its own gravitational attraction. Fusion moves outward to a shell surrounding the core, where hydrogen-rich material is still present. The gravitational energy from the collapse will be converted into heat causing the shell to burn vigorously and so the Sun's outer layers to swell immensely. The surface is now far removed from the central energy source, cools and appears to glow red. The Sun now evolves into the stage of a red giant. For a few hundred million years, the expansion of the outer solar layers will continue, and the Sun will engulf the planet Mercury. The temperature on Venus and Earth will rise tremendously. Hydrogen fusion in the shell continues to deposit helium "ash" onto the core, which becomes even hotter and more massive.

In the Sun's core nuclear fusion of helium into carbon and oxygen will start to trigger even further the expansion of its outer layers. The helium-rich core is unable to lose heat fast enough and becomes unstable. In a very short time of few hours the core gets too hot and is forced to expand explosively. Outer layers of the Sun will absorb the core explosion but the core will no longer be able to produce energy by thermonuclear burning. Helium fusion then continues in a shell and the structure of the Sun would look like an onion: An outer, hydrogen-fusion layer and an inner, helium-fusion layer which surrounds an inert core of carbon and oxygen.

The old Sun may repeat the cycle of shrinking and swelling several times. In this stage of evolution the Sun is called an asymptotic giant branch star. Finally enough carbon will accumulate in the core to prevent the core explosion. Helium-shell burning will add heat to the outer layers of the Sun, mainly containing hydrogen and helium. The asymptotic giant Sun will generate eventually an intense wind that begins to carry off its outer envelope. The precise mechanism behind this phenomenon is not yet well understood. The Sun will expand a final time and after about 30 million years it will swallow Venus and Earth, outer layers will keep expanding outward and as much as half of the Sun's mass gets lost into space.



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So, how long will we have to go before all the doomsayers finally STFU? will they run out of numerology tricks/biblical interpretations at a certain point, or not?



No. They are in the alarmism business.

Years ago, the Jehovahs Witnesses decided that 1914 was the big day. Taking a book written by people in the Middle East and applying it to European events.

The idea was that a person was of reasoning age and that generation would see the end times. So... you'd need to be about 13-14 years old. Biblical lifespan was 40, so 1940 was the big date and WWII came along.

Then the lifespan was changed to a modern range of 70. 1970 flew by.

The interpretation changed a couple of more times and, finally, they said that the end times are "commencing". "The end" is a series of events that have started.

They tell children not to worry about an education or life or anything. That the end will be here too soon. That Jesus will solve pollution, crime, poverty, and illness.

That is an irresponsible attitude.

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Post: >it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes and aeroplanes.

I wish there were someone who wasn't afraid of that. Right? Right <<<<<<<<<<<

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it's the end of the world as we know it, I feel fine.
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I vote other because.....

It's already ended. Have you not realized, we are all dead and in hell. Why do you think we have global warming? Hint: hell is not a cold place. The disease, poverty and crime surrounding us should be enough to convince anyone this is hell.
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Whatever happens, I hope it's NOTHING that anyone's predicted.

I think human kind will destroy itself or at least seriously diminish itself before the world ends. We're breeding ourselves out of a sustainable planet as it is- it's only a matter of time before the right virus comes along.

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As the Sun ages, helium collects in its center. .....{blah blah blah, astronomy stuff} ......outer layers will keep expanding outward and as much as half of the Sun's mass gets lost into space.



Unless the moon tears us up first. Much like falling feet first into a black hole at the bottom of the Bay of Fundy.

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It all depends on who you talk to. Many Christians believe that often when it says "1000 years" in Revelation, it just means "a long (indefinite) time." Kind of like saying "you'll never guess this in a thousand years".

But if you suggest such an interpretation to a fundie, they'll rip you a new one.
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If I might give a serious response, here is a Catholic perspective: http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac0993.asp

edited to add: I warn you, that it's not as much fun as all those bible-thumping preachers of the apocalypse, or the Bible-Code finders, or the alarmists who whip a Bible verse out of context everytime a fly farts in the Middle East.
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