The Democratic Position on Iraq

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Those on the left are incapable of admitting that. Much like they're incapable of telling the American public what they support - they'd never get elected if they did.

Gah. I love this argument.

"The left doesn't have a plan."
'Well, the right's plan is not a very good one."
"Well, at least they have a plan."
"Hmm, given the choice of no plan and a bad plan, can I choose neither? They both seem pretty piss poor in their own ways."
"NO! This right and left only. When given the choice of a wishy-washy limp-dicked non-plan and a poorly executed one, you OBVIOUSLY have to choose the side that is has an idea, no matter how weak it is. At least they stand for something."



How bout instead of bashing the left for not having a plan and touting the right simply for having one, we look in new directions and better solutions? A compromise perhaps? No, that is just insane. At least that is what BOTH sides seem to be indicating to me. Any sort of compromise always seems to be a half-gesture at best, made politcally so that when the other side finds flaw in it, they can shout, "see! THEY don't want to work together. They are evil, not us!"

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Those on the left are incapable of admitting that. Much like they're incapable of telling the American public what they support - they'd never get elected if they did.

So what's YOUR theory on why the Bush's DoJ plea bargained with Berger? What are they covering up? You've been going on and on for months about Berger so you must have some theory.

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Those on the left are incapable of admitting that. Much like they're incapable of telling the American public what they support - they'd never get elected if they did.

If the right told the truth about what they support, they'd not get elected either.

I have a very long list of "falsehoods" from this administration that I can provide on request.

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Those on the left are incapable of admitting that. Much like they're incapable of telling the American public what they support - they'd never get elected if they did.

Gah. I love this argument.

"The left doesn't have a plan."
'Well, the right's plan is not a very good one."
"Well, at least they have a plan."
"Hmm, given the choice of no plan and a bad plan, can I choose neither? They both seem pretty piss poor in their own ways."
"NO! This right and left only. When given the choice of a wishy-washy limp-dicked non-plan and a poorly executed one, you OBVIOUSLY have to choose the side that is has an idea, no matter how weak it is. At least they stand for something."



How bout instead of bashing the left for not having a plan and touting the right simply for having one, we look in new directions and better solutions? A compromise perhaps? No, that is just insane. At least that is what BOTH sides seem to be indicating to me. Any sort of compromise always seems to be a half-gesture at best, made politcally so that when the other side finds flaw in it, they can shout, "see! THEY don't want to work together. They are evil, not us!"

So, since you seem to hold yourself up above all of this, what would you suggest?

I see a lot of merit in the "no plan" argument when it appears, to me anyway, that the left bashes everyting in a attempt to regain what they claim to be thier rightful place in power.

So, until the left can be honest about what they really stand for and what they want, well, they have not plan

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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So, since you seem to hold yourself up above all of this, what would you suggest?

I see a lot of merit in the "no plan" argument when it appears, to me anyway, that the left bashes everyting in a attempt to regain what they claim to be thier rightful place in power.

So, until the left can be honest about what they really stand for and what they want, well, they have not plan

No plan here. And it is why I am not in politics. All I can see is that neither side is working. Or trying to work together. Day in, day out, its "the left sucks this" and "the right sucks that".

I don't have the answers, but no one has given me good ones either...from either side.

Maybe if people actually examined the problems instead of pointing out how the other guy is screwing it up, there might be better ideas for me to get behind.

But I won't be holding my breath.

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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The politicos on both sides share the same arch plan: (1) hold power and (2) feather your nest. All their other plans are remotely secondary. The people need to starve them into practicality and making the hard choices our nation faces. At least that's the current position of us Blutarskyites.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

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The politicos on both sides share the same arch plan: (1) hold power and (2) feather your nest. All their other plans are remotely secondary. The people need to starve them into practicality and making the hard choices our nation faces. At least that's the current position of us Blutarskyites.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

I think I may have to join your club. I assume there will be drinking involved?

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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I assume there will be drinking involved?

Of course. It's a basic tenet of our platform. We even have a faction which advocates a reverse Prohibition amendment to the Constitution wherein all voters must test over a minimum blood alcohol threshold in order to be admitted at the polling station. The faction feels this could attract Ted Kennedy's constituency to affiliate with us. Our image consultants are studying their proposal as I write this.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

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I assume there will be drinking involved?

Of course. It's a basic tenet of our platform. We even have a faction which advocates a reverse Prohibition amendment to the Constitution wherein all voters must test over a minimum blood alcohol threshold in order to be admitted at the polling station. The faction feels this could attract Ted Kennedy's constituency to affiliate with us. Our image consultants are studying their proposal as I write this.


Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

Very good then. sign me up

Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.

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I'm actually at a loss as to their reasoning. I think it sends a bad signal and disagree with their decision.

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I'm actually at a loss as to their reasoning. I think it sends a bad signal and disagree with their decision.

But it certainly wasn't altruism from this DoJ. There has to be something that would come out at trial that they want to keep hidden.

Or it could be that you are throwing a lot of dust in the air, and in fact, as the conservative WSJ noted, "But given the minimal damage from the crime, this looks to be a case where prosecutors have shown some commendable restraint against a high-powered political figure."

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Stealing classified documents is a crime and a fucking serious one, regardless of what is done with the documents after their theft. In this case the documents were not recovered so the extent of damage really is unknown. One wonders how the author of the WSJ article came to that conclusion. Commendable restraint? I beg to differ.

What exactly are you implying about the DoJ?

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I think they do this type of bullshit because they are afraid of the beltway media

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Stealing classified documents is a crime and a fucking serious one, regardless of what is done with the documents after their theft. In this case the documents were not recovered so the extent of damage really is unknown. One wonders how the author of the WSJ article came to that conclusion. Commendable restraint? I beg to differ.

What exactly are you implying about the DoJ?

I'm implying that something stinks of rotten fish, and for some reason the AG/DoJ doesn't want it aired in court.

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Perhaps. I find it odd that anything that could have damaged the Administration would have been left alone by the media though.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!