Ernie and Bert

[tbrown 26]

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If they put on cowboy hats and rode up a mountain together, would they make out?

No, that's "Bareback Mountin'", or something like that.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[narcimund 0]

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Without even going into the gay issues, which kids that young really don't need to struggle with

There's no struggle unless the parent introduces it that way. Viz:

"Little Billy, some men love men and some women love women."

vs.

"Little Billy, some dirty men do nasty things with men that good boys like you will only do with women, like God intended."

First Class Citizen Twice Over

[okalb 104]

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Your idea that Bert & Ernie are deliberately unnamed gays is most interesting. Without even going into the gay issues, which kids that young really don't need to struggle with, it does put forward the idea that there might be two guy neighbors who live together and they're alright too. Never thought of it that way before, I just thought the "gay agenda" folks were trying to hijack kids' puppets. But this is something to think about....

Funny, I grew up in a house with a lesbian mother. When I was young and her girlfriend stayed over, it never seemed at all odd to me. I looked at it as I assume any child would. When my friends stay over, they sleep in my room with me, so when hers stay over they stay in her room with her. It wasn't until I was older and understood more that I realized the situation wasn't the same.

I wonder if the militant homosexual agenda was brainwashing me through Sesame Street all along

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[tbrown 26]

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Without even going into the gay issues, which kids that young really don't need to struggle with

There's no struggle unless the parent introduces it that way. Viz:

"Little Billy, some men love men and some women love women."

vs.

"Little Billy, some dirty men do nasty things with other men that they good boys like you will only do with women."

You're absolutely right. Problem with the real world is they're going to hear both views anyway. I just don't think little kids need to grapple with sexual issues in general, beyond the curious grappling they do with themselves and their playmates. Kids don't need to be "protected" from talk about sexuality, as much as they need to be protected from what too many adults have to say about it.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[peacefuljeffrey 0]

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Ernie and Bert were getting continuous anal in Sesame street for all those years.

I think they call it fisting

OH, how I wish I could afford to laugh out loud here at work!

That was GREAT!!

-Jeffrey

P.S. I don't know where I heard it, but years ago I found out that they were supposed to be college roommates.
I guess the reason they never had female significant others in the picture was that they were dorks.

-Jeffrey
"With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!"

[happythoughts 0]

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the question that has bugged me for years.

Years? A sign of a deeper issue perhaps.

[AlexCrowley 0]

This is an interesting line of thought.

I think we have a tendancy to place too much emphasis on sexuality in our perception of our children's worlds. To them they dont understand the concept.

A friend who grew up with a mother who was gay and dating didnt see anything wrong with his mother sleeping with a friend, after all - all his friends stayed in his room when they came to his house for a sleepover.

Most people I know say that the impact of sexuality wasnt even on their radar until their early teens when they started to understand it from their own perspective.

My child has grown up in a mixed environment and has no confusion about gay or straight relationships. It's about who you love, and right now from an 8 year old perspective thats something a little like a fluttery feeling friendship and nothing more. In her world the concept of sex (which I think she's beginning to accept as the origin of babies rather than just something I made up to give her nightmares - like the crawling eye boogers) has absolutely zero to do with relationships of moms and dads.

I keep hearing about the 'gay agenda', I'd put it in a box somewhere near the 'Christian Right' agenda.

TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.

[AlexCrowley 0]

Maybe you just missed the 'Bert slips GHB into the drinks of two pretty coeds and proceeds to abuse them for the next 3 days while on a coke fueled binge' episode.

That was the same one where REM sang 'shiny happy monsters'.

TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.

[winsor 236]

This addresses the issue.

[NWFlyer 2]

http://www.today.com/news/bert-ernie-celebrate-doma-decision-new-yorker-cover-6C10480518

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke