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No problem. Let's recognize that part of the problem is the emotionally charged atmosphere of this whole topic. There were some pretty despicable anti-gay posts and I can understand people who don't want to add fuel to the fire. But I don't think the right way to do that is to ignore the truth.



Watch out... if you continue to speak clearly and reasonably like this you'll be told you're an inherently angry person.


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speaking simply as a perennial lurker here, who doesn't bother to post most of the time because the only useful thing i could add would be dissertations on incorrect grammar (as for the most part what i read here alternately amuses or upsets me)...YOU ROCK! and i mean that sincerely.

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No problem. Let's recognize that part of the problem is the emotionally charged atmosphere of this whole topic. There were some pretty despicable anti-gay posts and I can understand people who don't want to add fuel to the fire. But I don't think the right way to do that is to ignore the truth.



Watch out... if you continue to speak clearly and reasonably like this you'll be told you're an inherently angry person.



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As long as I keep away from this smiley >:(, I think I'll be okay. Thanks for the warning, though!

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speaking simply as a perennial lurker here, who doesn't bother to post most of the time because the only useful thing i could add would be dissertations on incorrect grammar (as for the most part what i read here alternately amuses or upsets me)...YOU ROCK! and i mean that sincerely.



oh my :$ shall we get a room ;) or at least flirt like mad on msn? :)


erm.. you're not a geeza are you? :o
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>Killing abortion doctors is an form, albeit an extreme an abhoorent one, of pro-life protest

Not really. Murder is actually sorta counter to the pro-life philosophy when you think about it.

>The same is true about NAMBLA. Totally abhorrent, I grant you, but
>it is a form of homosexual activity.

Again, not really. NAMBLA encourages pedophilia; gays do not.

The two are somewhat related in that murderers do not have much to do with pro-lifers; NAMBLA does not have much to do with gays.

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>Killing abortion doctors is an form, albeit an extreme an abhoorent one, of pro-life protest

Not really. Murder is actually sorta counter to the pro-life philosophy when you think about it.



So is the death penalty. You may require everyone to be anti-death penalty to be considered pro-life, but that isn't a universally accepted restriction.

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>The same is true about NAMBLA. Totally abhorrent, I grant you, but
>it is a form of homosexual activity.

Again, not really. NAMBLA encourages pedophilia; gays do not.



Irrelevant. That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that means IRA terrorists are not Irish.

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Irrelevant. That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that means IRA terrorists are not Irish.



Your point is logical and narrowly true but misses (sidesteps?) the larger issue.

To call the IRA the "Militant Irish Agenda" can be read as strictly accurate as you showed above, but 99% of the people who see that phrase will incorrectly read it as stating that the entire Irish population is militant.

Of course that would fit the goals of the anti-irish who will gladly encourage misunderstandings that advance their bigotry.


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>That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that
>means IRA terrorists are not Irish.

Correct. However, if you said "I am skeptical about that Irish dude being able to talk rationally without trying to kill me - look at the IRA!" you would be making the same error many people here are making. You are assuming a correlation where none exists.

I am white and am half Irish; it does not mean I support the NRA. I am a man; I do not support NAMBLA. I am a skydiver; I have never robbed a bank nor do I condone such. I am married to a woman; that does not mean I am for a man-woman marriage amendment, Indeed, I support gay unions as well.

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Irrelevant. That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that means IRA terrorists are not Irish.



Your point is logical and narrowly true but misses (sidesteps?) the larger issue.

To call the IRA the "Militant Irish Agenda" can be read as strictly accurate as you showed above, but 99% of the people who see that phrase will incorrectly read it as stating that the entire Irish population is militant.

Of course that would fit the goals of the anti-irish who will gladly encourage misunderstandings that advance their bigotry.



But most people are able to make the distinction that all the Irish are not terrorists without having to believe that the terrorists are not Irish. Isn't that the ideal?

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