narcimund 0 #176 December 20, 2005 QuoteNo problem. Let's recognize that part of the problem is the emotionally charged atmosphere of this whole topic. There were some pretty despicable anti-gay posts and I can understand people who don't want to add fuel to the fire. But I don't think the right way to do that is to ignore the truth. Watch out... if you continue to speak clearly and reasonably like this you'll be told you're an inherently angry person. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ln311 0 #177 December 20, 2005 speaking simply as a perennial lurker here, who doesn't bother to post most of the time because the only useful thing i could add would be dissertations on incorrect grammar (as for the most part what i read here alternately amuses or upsets me)...YOU ROCK! and i mean that sincerely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #178 December 20, 2005 QuoteQuoteNo problem. Let's recognize that part of the problem is the emotionally charged atmosphere of this whole topic. There were some pretty despicable anti-gay posts and I can understand people who don't want to add fuel to the fire. But I don't think the right way to do that is to ignore the truth. Watch out... if you continue to speak clearly and reasonably like this you'll be told you're an inherently angry person. As long as I keep away from this smiley , I think I'll be okay. Thanks for the warning, though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #179 December 20, 2005 Quotespeaking simply as a perennial lurker here, who doesn't bother to post most of the time because the only useful thing i could add would be dissertations on incorrect grammar (as for the most part what i read here alternately amuses or upsets me)...YOU ROCK! and i mean that sincerely. oh my shall we get a room or at least flirt like mad on msn? erm.. you're not a geeza are you? ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ln311 0 #180 December 20, 2005 hee hee...ummm nope, not a bloke. i am indeed a "she" i'm contemplating becoming a Militant Homosexual though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #181 December 20, 2005 Quotehee hee...ummm nope, not a bloke. i am indeed a "she" i'm contemplating becoming a Militant Homosexual though fit as a butchers dog? or a bit of a moose?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #182 December 20, 2005 I'll bring the camera. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #183 December 20, 2005 QuoteI'll bring the camera. forget the camera, just bring the rubber gimp suit and KY jelly________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ln311 0 #184 December 20, 2005 who told you i had the suit? my secret is out... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #185 December 20, 2005 Quotewho told you i had the suit? my secret is out... msn, now ! *practices his best chat up lines*________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #186 December 20, 2005 better hurry. she's got about 30 minutes. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #187 December 20, 2005 ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ln311 0 #188 December 20, 2005 hmmm i never use my msn account... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #189 December 20, 2005 [uninstalls MSN on all the computers] TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ln311 0 #190 December 20, 2005 that clown is scary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #191 December 20, 2005 Im leaving now. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #192 December 20, 2005 >Killing abortion doctors is an form, albeit an extreme an abhoorent one, of pro-life protest Not really. Murder is actually sorta counter to the pro-life philosophy when you think about it. >The same is true about NAMBLA. Totally abhorrent, I grant you, but >it is a form of homosexual activity. Again, not really. NAMBLA encourages pedophilia; gays do not. The two are somewhat related in that murderers do not have much to do with pro-lifers; NAMBLA does not have much to do with gays. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #193 December 20, 2005 Quotehmmm i never use my msn account... he shoots.... rebounds off the post !!!!________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #194 December 20, 2005 Quote>Killing abortion doctors is an form, albeit an extreme an abhoorent one, of pro-life protest Not really. Murder is actually sorta counter to the pro-life philosophy when you think about it. So is the death penalty. You may require everyone to be anti-death penalty to be considered pro-life, but that isn't a universally accepted restriction. Quote >The same is true about NAMBLA. Totally abhorrent, I grant you, but >it is a form of homosexual activity. Again, not really. NAMBLA encourages pedophilia; gays do not. Irrelevant. That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that means IRA terrorists are not Irish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #196 December 20, 2005 QuoteIrrelevant. That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that means IRA terrorists are not Irish. Your point is logical and narrowly true but misses (sidesteps?) the larger issue. To call the IRA the "Militant Irish Agenda" can be read as strictly accurate as you showed above, but 99% of the people who see that phrase will incorrectly read it as stating that the entire Irish population is militant. Of course that would fit the goals of the anti-irish who will gladly encourage misunderstandings that advance their bigotry. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #197 December 20, 2005 >That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that >means IRA terrorists are not Irish. Correct. However, if you said "I am skeptical about that Irish dude being able to talk rationally without trying to kill me - look at the IRA!" you would be making the same error many people here are making. You are assuming a correlation where none exists. I am white and am half Irish; it does not mean I support the NRA. I am a man; I do not support NAMBLA. I am a skydiver; I have never robbed a bank nor do I condone such. I am married to a woman; that does not mean I am for a man-woman marriage amendment, Indeed, I support gay unions as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #198 December 20, 2005 QuoteQuoteIrrelevant. That's like saying Irish people don't encourage IRA terror so that means IRA terrorists are not Irish. Your point is logical and narrowly true but misses (sidesteps?) the larger issue. To call the IRA the "Militant Irish Agenda" can be read as strictly accurate as you showed above, but 99% of the people who see that phrase will incorrectly read it as stating that the entire Irish population is militant. Of course that would fit the goals of the anti-irish who will gladly encourage misunderstandings that advance their bigotry. But most people are able to make the distinction that all the Irish are not terrorists without having to believe that the terrorists are not Irish. Isn't that the ideal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #199 December 20, 2005 QuoteI support gay unions as well. wow, they even have their own unions now ! is that how they fight for equal rights?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #200 December 20, 2005 >wow, they even have their own unions now ! Of course. You even get a free toaster when you open a savings account with $500 or more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites