narcimund 0 #26 December 19, 2005 Quoteyou got what you asked for. No, I asked for the militant homosexual agenda. You pointed to the militant pedophilia agenda to imply they're the same thing and thus that homosexuals are pedophiles. Mostly what you've said in these gay threads has just been flawed by all the logical fallacies but this is the one thing you've said that's truly evil. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #27 December 19, 2005 Quote They've also got the ACLU defending them, which pretty much sums it up. Won't defend the 2nd Amendment, but they'll defend pederasts. d'uhh... I believe that's what the NRA is for -- the second amendment (well, at least the second half of it, since they forgot the first part "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"..but that's another discussion). The ACLU is about defending the first amendment. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #28 December 19, 2005 QuoteCan someone find me a link to the Militant Homo Agenda? I'd like to join up. I look great in a uniform and I can pick off a clay pigeon with a revolver. As posted in another thread, and I think worth repeating, I think this very large group is acting like they represent gays and what they want to do in public with children present: http://stopgaydays.com/index.html The above link is from the other thread: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1983876#1983876People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #29 December 19, 2005 QuoteQuoteCan someone find me a link to the Militant Homo Agenda? I'd like to join up. I look great in a uniform and I can pick off a clay pigeon with a revolver. Here's an excellent starting place-- NAMBLA mh Wow. Why is it that you harbor such fear and contempt for homosexuals to the point that you would automatically associate them with child molestors? Outside of the type of blind, hostile bigotry I haven't seen in a long time, I can only imagine two reasons: 1. You were sexually assulted as a child by an adult man. I sincerely hope this is not the case, but it would explain your feelings. 2. You are a closet homosexual programmed to believe you are going to hell, so you are fighting your urges. This is probably the answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #30 December 19, 2005 They have an agenda that is both virulently militant and homosexual. Do you really expect the Breeders who live in Flyover Country, whom most gays have sneering contempt for, to tell the difference?"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #31 December 19, 2005 QuoteDo you really expect the Breeders who live in Flyover Country, whom most gays have sneering contempt for, to tell the difference? I have no idea what you're talking about with this comment about our "sneering contempt." Where the hell do you get this bizarre information? First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #32 December 19, 2005 QuoteWhy is it that you harbor such fear and contempt for homosexuals to the point that you would automatically associate them with child molestors? Even though the Executive Branch of our Federal Government has chosen to take a position against abortion, they have also chosen to aggressively prosecute abortion clinic bombers. Similarly, gay rights groups would do well to take a well advertised/very public position against NAMBLA. Maybe they already do this. If so, I would like to see it. Unfortunately, some groups such as the ACLU have chosen to do the opposite.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #33 December 19, 2005 > And churches renounce violence against abortion clinics too. Not all of them; some church members support them! >Then, I'll believe there isn't an agenda. Fair enough. When the Army of God's website is shut down I will believe that anti-abortionists do not condone the killing of doctors. Until then . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #34 December 19, 2005 I believe the term "flyover country" to be a phrase coined by liberals, representing the part of the country where they have little chance for victory in elections. It is also the part of the country that liberals consider a lost cause due to the majority red neck population-that is worthy of sneering at.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #35 December 19, 2005 Quote... haven't heard any native Samoans talk about this subject... I'll err... Wait for The Pitcairn Islanders to speak out against these shameful practices! Oh... Wait a minute... They don't count. They weren't HOMOSEXUAL!!! And this thread IS about Evil Paedophiliac Homosexuals. Isn't it!? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #36 December 19, 2005 Quotegay rights groups would do well to take a well advertised/very public position against NAMBLA. Maybe they already do this. If so, I would like to see it. Why? Because you automatically associate homosexuals with child molestors unless told otherwise? What about hispanics? Do they need an advertising campaign against NAMBLA? What about _insert anything here_ Americans? What about my softball league? I think the homosexual community is more concerned with securing equal treatment under the law. QuoteUnfortunately, some groups such as the ACLU have chosen to do the opposite. I fail to see how this is relevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #37 December 19, 2005 QuoteFair enough. When the Army of God's website is shut down I will believe that anti-abortionists do not condone the killing of doctors. Until then . . The Army of God are some bad folks, certainly. Religious groups would do well to clearly and publicly distance themselves from such groups, or they risk the assumption of affiliation with them. However, the Federal Gov't has tried to shut their website down, but been unable due to technicalities and judicial rulings, I believe. This is definitely the time when the legislative branch should do their job to make new laws allowing the website to be stopped that will pass judicial scrutiny.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #38 December 19, 2005 QuoteI believe the term "flyover country" to be a phrase coined by liberals, representing the part of the country where they have little chance for victory in elections. It is also the part of the country that liberals consider a lost cause due to the majority red neck population-that is worthy of sneering at. What does any of this have to do with markharju's claim about "most gays"? We're losing cabin pressure again! First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #39 December 19, 2005 QuoteBecause you automatically associate homosexuals with child molestors unless told otherwise? What about hispanics? Do they need an advertising campaign against NAMBLA? What about _insert anything here_ Americans? What about my softball league? I don't contend that homosexuals should automatically be associated with NAMBLA, but unfortunately for gay rights groups, enough of the population has made an association that I think it is in their interest to make their position clear. It is the same as religious groups needing to denounce the Church of God types that attack abortion clinics and doctors. Regular churhes wish they didn't have to make their position clear, but they run the clear risk of association by much of the public if they do not.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #40 December 19, 2005 QuoteUnfortunately, some groups such as the ACLU have chosen to do the opposite. FAQ: Why did the ACLU defend NAMBLA? What is so unfortunate about this? Do you seriously believe that by defending NAMBLA in that lawsuit that the ACLU endorsed NAMBLA's views? Would you prefer, "freedom of speech," to be changed to, "freedom of sanctioned speech?" Nigga, please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #41 December 19, 2005 QuoteWhat does any of this have to do with markharju's claim about "most gays"? Probably nothing . My mind doesn't always work logically. QuoteWe're losing cabin pressure again! It's OK, the masks will fall down. Just remember those chemical oxygen generators don't make it for very long, so take the mask off when we get down a bit. People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #42 December 19, 2005 Quote I don't contend that homosexuals should automatically be associated with NAMBLA, but unfortunately for gay rights groups, enough of the population has made an association that I think it is in their interest to make their position clear. It is the same as religious groups needing to denounce the Church of God types that attack abortion clinics and doctors. Regular churhes wish they didn't have to make their position clear, but they run the clear risk of association by much of the public if they do not. Interesting viewpoint and I'm sure to some people, its valid. How would you recommend this to be done? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #43 December 19, 2005 Freedom of speech is one thing. Enabling and instructing people on how to break the law and be more likely to get away with it is another. If we can't limit freedom of speech in this way, then we are in trouble. Apparently new laws or a constitutional amendment is needed. In recent times, people are very scared of making changes to the constitution, but there have been many amendments during our history. Many things are currently left to judicial decisions that I think should be addressed by amending the constitution, thereby clearly establishing the limits of judicial authority.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #44 December 19, 2005 QuoteInteresting viewpoint and I'm sure to some people, its valid. How would you recommend this to be done? During every gay rights event, they could make their position clear during speeches, for instance. It is an unfair burden for them to have to do so, but their interests are at stake.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #45 December 19, 2005 QuoteQuoteInteresting viewpoint and I'm sure to some people, its valid. How would you recommend this to be done? During every gay rights event, they could make their position clear during speeches, for instance. It is an unfair burden for them to have to do so, but their interests are at stake. I see where you're coming from, but I believe they want their central message to be "We deserve equal treatment under the law", not "We are not child molestors". Still, an interesting subject. How strange would it be to hear a MLK speech and hear: Free at last, free at last - oh yeah, black people aren't child molestors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #46 December 19, 2005 QuoteQuoteInteresting viewpoint and I'm sure to some people, its valid. How would you recommend this to be done? During every gay rights event, they could make their position clear during speeches, for instance. It is an unfair burden for them to have to do so, but their interests are at stake. So should I change my sig line to say, "Even though I am homosexual I'm still against child molestation"? Would that help? First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #47 December 19, 2005 QuoteSo should I change my sig line to say, "Even though I am homosexual I'm still against child molestation"? Would that help? Nah... You would probably have to change it to "In spite of being homosexual..." HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #48 December 19, 2005 QuoteHow strange would it be to hear a MLK speech and hear: Free at last, free at last - oh yeah, black people aren't child molestors. If blacks were wrongly associated by the public with child molestors, then it certainly would be in their best interest to do so. But they are not, so it is not relevant.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #49 December 19, 2005 QuoteEnabling and instructing people on how to break the law and be more likely to get away with it is another. If we can't limit freedom of speech in this way, then we are in trouble. Would you then consider The Anarchist Cookbook speech that should be limited? Note, your answer to this question has the potential to break a levee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #50 December 19, 2005 QuoteSo should I change my sig line to say, "Even though I am homosexual I'm still against child molestation"? I think that a sig line declaring yourself to be gay is an example of being "in your face". If gays want to advance their desire to be more accepted, then I think they should consider not intentionally segragating/standing out so much. Standing out can take many forms. Heterosexuals are already accepted, so a sig line by a guy declaring "I love boobs" will get less criticism. It may not be fare, but it is reality. If gays want to advance their cause, facing this reality will help, in my opinion.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
