markd_nscr986 0 #1 December 9, 2005 Sorry........I just couldnt resist More about my particular brand of faith......... http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/ EnjoyMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #2 December 9, 2005 Think it'll catch up with the Christian thread in views/replies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #3 December 9, 2005 QuoteThink it'll catch up with the Christian thread in views/replies? Hi P, Probably not even closeMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ernokaikkonen 0 #4 December 9, 2005 If I really had to put a label on my life philosophy, buddhism would be it. Name the movie : "I never said I was a good buddhist!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #5 December 9, 2005 QuoteIf I really had to put a label on my life philosophy, buddhism would be it. Name the movie : "I never said I was a good buddhist!" Air America Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites steve1 5 #6 December 9, 2005 Hey, I think I might want to be a Budhist too. I've already got a bald head....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #7 December 9, 2005 Hey.......... You're almost thereMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterblaster72 0 #8 December 9, 2005 Right on brother, say it loud and proud. If you're ever in NYC, you're always welcome here. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #9 December 9, 2005 Likewise.......http://www.sgi-usa-denver.org/home.htmMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #10 December 9, 2005 okay now everybody who doesn't believe in Buddhism let's call this guy an idiot and tell him how stupid his beliefs are. Sound familiar? ( I can almost guarantee his post will not offend others the way the Cross and Christ offend) Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #11 December 9, 2005 >okay now everybody who doesn't believe in Buddhism let's call >this guy an idiot and tell him how stupid his beliefs are. Why? His beliefs are no more or less stupid than anyone else's. Now, if he claims that there is a war on Buddhism, that he's being persecuted for his beliefs here in the US - I might question why he really thinks that. But as long as his beliefs work for him, great! That's what's important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #12 December 9, 2005 QuoteI can almost guarantee his post will not offend others the way the Cross and Christ offend) Uhhhhh Maybe that's because we're tolerant of eveyones faith and dont believe that you will burn in hell for NOT accepting Lord Buddha's teachings But you could be right,some around here are can be pretty anti-christian/anti-islam.....given the intolerance of some of the fundamentalist interpretations of those religions I can see why.....although I dont share that view SGI Buddhists are a fairly inoffensive lot.......except for meMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #13 December 10, 2005 Quote>okay now everybody who doesn't believe in Buddhism let's call >this guy an idiot and tell him how stupid his beliefs are. Why? His beliefs are no more or less stupid than anyone else's. Now, if he claims that there is a war on Buddhism, that he's being persecuted for his beliefs here in the US - I might question why he really thinks that. But as long as his beliefs work for him, great! That's what's important. I was trying to be SARCASTIC billvon...did you read the rest of my post? I would never actually call someone's beliefs stupid, just trying to show how other people may attack a Christian's beliefs just because there are some "hypocrites" out there, yet there would hardly be the same type of anti-Buddha and mockery of Buddhism like there is of God in my thread. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #14 December 10, 2005 >I was trying to be SARCASTIC billvon...did you read the rest of my post? Yep! >I would never actually call someone's beliefs stupid, just trying to >show how other people may attack a Christian's beliefs just because >there are some "hypocrites" out there, yet there would hardly be the >same type of anti-Buddha and mockery of Buddhism like there is of >God in my thread. a) if a Buddhist monk taught strict adherence to The Eightfold Path, and he went out every weekend to get drunk and see if he could 'get lucky' he'd get grief. There aren't many Buddhist monks here, though, and fewer still who do such things. b) I didn't see anyone call your beliefs stupid. Most people who disagreed with you did so when you claimed you were a victim of persecution because of your religion. You responded pretty angrily - which made it sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. c) There are christians who do stupid stuff (as there are muslims, jews and hindus who do stupid stuff.) Don't take attacks on _them_ personally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #15 December 10, 2005 Quoteb) I didn't see anyone call your beliefs stupid. maybe not directly and I don't believe I responded angrily to being persecuted as a Christian...I was more angry at people blaspheming God...not anyone in particular though. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #16 December 10, 2005 "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #17 December 10, 2005 ***and I don't believe I responded angrily to being persecuted as a Christian...I was more angry at people blaspheming God...not anyone in particular though. Tolerance.........Forgiveness............Charity.........Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marcandalysse 0 #18 December 11, 2005 I AM NOT A BUDDHIST.....pride has nothing to do with the buddha way..... well, the buddha didn't want to have a religion created around him as a diety. in fact, he urged us to question all our beliefs and find the meaning to our lives by searching within ourselves and living an ethical life, not by chanting or lighting candles in front of an altar and expecting some kind of 'grace'. he also said that the troubles in life are caused by desire, certainly not encouraging chanting for desirable outcomes. those aspects of buddhist sects evolved after the contact with christian monks who had made it to china in the tang dynasty and afterwards (around 800AD). in fact there was no notion of heaven and hell until the christian and other middle eastern influences affected the mahayanists who wrote the Lotus Sutra. Honen, Shinran (Jodo sects) and Nicheren (Lotus sects and variations like SGI) were a result of that, and obviously met a need during terrible times in japanese history....shinran and nicheren were really hard-assed too! to them it was 'my way or the highway(--to hell)' the buddha way is originally more of a psychology and morality/ethics that goes beyond any religious belief. So, I am NOT a Buddhist.....but the buddha sure was a cool guy!!!! your friend in dharma, marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #19 December 12, 2005 Quotepride has nothing to do with the buddha way..... You're rightMy tongue was "very firmly planted in cheek"when I made that statement But I felt it was necessary to bring it up for discussion's sake alone And Nicherin Daishonin did consider to Lotus Sutra to be the most important of all the Buddhists textsMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
ernokaikkonen 0 #4 December 9, 2005 If I really had to put a label on my life philosophy, buddhism would be it. Name the movie : "I never said I was a good buddhist!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #5 December 9, 2005 QuoteIf I really had to put a label on my life philosophy, buddhism would be it. Name the movie : "I never said I was a good buddhist!" Air America Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #6 December 9, 2005 Hey, I think I might want to be a Budhist too. I've already got a bald head....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #7 December 9, 2005 Hey.......... You're almost thereMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #8 December 9, 2005 Right on brother, say it loud and proud. If you're ever in NYC, you're always welcome here. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #9 December 9, 2005 Likewise.......http://www.sgi-usa-denver.org/home.htmMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #10 December 9, 2005 okay now everybody who doesn't believe in Buddhism let's call this guy an idiot and tell him how stupid his beliefs are. Sound familiar? ( I can almost guarantee his post will not offend others the way the Cross and Christ offend) Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #11 December 9, 2005 >okay now everybody who doesn't believe in Buddhism let's call >this guy an idiot and tell him how stupid his beliefs are. Why? His beliefs are no more or less stupid than anyone else's. Now, if he claims that there is a war on Buddhism, that he's being persecuted for his beliefs here in the US - I might question why he really thinks that. But as long as his beliefs work for him, great! That's what's important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #12 December 9, 2005 QuoteI can almost guarantee his post will not offend others the way the Cross and Christ offend) Uhhhhh Maybe that's because we're tolerant of eveyones faith and dont believe that you will burn in hell for NOT accepting Lord Buddha's teachings But you could be right,some around here are can be pretty anti-christian/anti-islam.....given the intolerance of some of the fundamentalist interpretations of those religions I can see why.....although I dont share that view SGI Buddhists are a fairly inoffensive lot.......except for meMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #13 December 10, 2005 Quote>okay now everybody who doesn't believe in Buddhism let's call >this guy an idiot and tell him how stupid his beliefs are. Why? His beliefs are no more or less stupid than anyone else's. Now, if he claims that there is a war on Buddhism, that he's being persecuted for his beliefs here in the US - I might question why he really thinks that. But as long as his beliefs work for him, great! That's what's important. I was trying to be SARCASTIC billvon...did you read the rest of my post? I would never actually call someone's beliefs stupid, just trying to show how other people may attack a Christian's beliefs just because there are some "hypocrites" out there, yet there would hardly be the same type of anti-Buddha and mockery of Buddhism like there is of God in my thread. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #14 December 10, 2005 >I was trying to be SARCASTIC billvon...did you read the rest of my post? Yep! >I would never actually call someone's beliefs stupid, just trying to >show how other people may attack a Christian's beliefs just because >there are some "hypocrites" out there, yet there would hardly be the >same type of anti-Buddha and mockery of Buddhism like there is of >God in my thread. a) if a Buddhist monk taught strict adherence to The Eightfold Path, and he went out every weekend to get drunk and see if he could 'get lucky' he'd get grief. There aren't many Buddhist monks here, though, and fewer still who do such things. b) I didn't see anyone call your beliefs stupid. Most people who disagreed with you did so when you claimed you were a victim of persecution because of your religion. You responded pretty angrily - which made it sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. c) There are christians who do stupid stuff (as there are muslims, jews and hindus who do stupid stuff.) Don't take attacks on _them_ personally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #15 December 10, 2005 Quoteb) I didn't see anyone call your beliefs stupid. maybe not directly and I don't believe I responded angrily to being persecuted as a Christian...I was more angry at people blaspheming God...not anyone in particular though. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #16 December 10, 2005 "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #17 December 10, 2005 ***and I don't believe I responded angrily to being persecuted as a Christian...I was more angry at people blaspheming God...not anyone in particular though. Tolerance.........Forgiveness............Charity.........Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marcandalysse 0 #18 December 11, 2005 I AM NOT A BUDDHIST.....pride has nothing to do with the buddha way..... well, the buddha didn't want to have a religion created around him as a diety. in fact, he urged us to question all our beliefs and find the meaning to our lives by searching within ourselves and living an ethical life, not by chanting or lighting candles in front of an altar and expecting some kind of 'grace'. he also said that the troubles in life are caused by desire, certainly not encouraging chanting for desirable outcomes. those aspects of buddhist sects evolved after the contact with christian monks who had made it to china in the tang dynasty and afterwards (around 800AD). in fact there was no notion of heaven and hell until the christian and other middle eastern influences affected the mahayanists who wrote the Lotus Sutra. Honen, Shinran (Jodo sects) and Nicheren (Lotus sects and variations like SGI) were a result of that, and obviously met a need during terrible times in japanese history....shinran and nicheren were really hard-assed too! to them it was 'my way or the highway(--to hell)' the buddha way is originally more of a psychology and morality/ethics that goes beyond any religious belief. So, I am NOT a Buddhist.....but the buddha sure was a cool guy!!!! your friend in dharma, marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #19 December 12, 2005 Quotepride has nothing to do with the buddha way..... You're rightMy tongue was "very firmly planted in cheek"when I made that statement But I felt it was necessary to bring it up for discussion's sake alone And Nicherin Daishonin did consider to Lotus Sutra to be the most important of all the Buddhists textsMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
windcatcher 0 #13 December 10, 2005 Quote>okay now everybody who doesn't believe in Buddhism let's call >this guy an idiot and tell him how stupid his beliefs are. Why? His beliefs are no more or less stupid than anyone else's. Now, if he claims that there is a war on Buddhism, that he's being persecuted for his beliefs here in the US - I might question why he really thinks that. But as long as his beliefs work for him, great! That's what's important. I was trying to be SARCASTIC billvon...did you read the rest of my post? I would never actually call someone's beliefs stupid, just trying to show how other people may attack a Christian's beliefs just because there are some "hypocrites" out there, yet there would hardly be the same type of anti-Buddha and mockery of Buddhism like there is of God in my thread. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #14 December 10, 2005 >I was trying to be SARCASTIC billvon...did you read the rest of my post? Yep! >I would never actually call someone's beliefs stupid, just trying to >show how other people may attack a Christian's beliefs just because >there are some "hypocrites" out there, yet there would hardly be the >same type of anti-Buddha and mockery of Buddhism like there is of >God in my thread. a) if a Buddhist monk taught strict adherence to The Eightfold Path, and he went out every weekend to get drunk and see if he could 'get lucky' he'd get grief. There aren't many Buddhist monks here, though, and fewer still who do such things. b) I didn't see anyone call your beliefs stupid. Most people who disagreed with you did so when you claimed you were a victim of persecution because of your religion. You responded pretty angrily - which made it sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. c) There are christians who do stupid stuff (as there are muslims, jews and hindus who do stupid stuff.) Don't take attacks on _them_ personally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #15 December 10, 2005 Quoteb) I didn't see anyone call your beliefs stupid. maybe not directly and I don't believe I responded angrily to being persecuted as a Christian...I was more angry at people blaspheming God...not anyone in particular though. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #16 December 10, 2005 "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #17 December 10, 2005 ***and I don't believe I responded angrily to being persecuted as a Christian...I was more angry at people blaspheming God...not anyone in particular though. Tolerance.........Forgiveness............Charity.........Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #18 December 11, 2005 I AM NOT A BUDDHIST.....pride has nothing to do with the buddha way..... well, the buddha didn't want to have a religion created around him as a diety. in fact, he urged us to question all our beliefs and find the meaning to our lives by searching within ourselves and living an ethical life, not by chanting or lighting candles in front of an altar and expecting some kind of 'grace'. he also said that the troubles in life are caused by desire, certainly not encouraging chanting for desirable outcomes. those aspects of buddhist sects evolved after the contact with christian monks who had made it to china in the tang dynasty and afterwards (around 800AD). in fact there was no notion of heaven and hell until the christian and other middle eastern influences affected the mahayanists who wrote the Lotus Sutra. Honen, Shinran (Jodo sects) and Nicheren (Lotus sects and variations like SGI) were a result of that, and obviously met a need during terrible times in japanese history....shinran and nicheren were really hard-assed too! to them it was 'my way or the highway(--to hell)' the buddha way is originally more of a psychology and morality/ethics that goes beyond any religious belief. So, I am NOT a Buddhist.....but the buddha sure was a cool guy!!!! your friend in dharma, marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #19 December 12, 2005 Quotepride has nothing to do with the buddha way..... You're rightMy tongue was "very firmly planted in cheek"when I made that statement But I felt it was necessary to bring it up for discussion's sake alone And Nicherin Daishonin did consider to Lotus Sutra to be the most important of all the Buddhists textsMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
