rehmwa 2 #26 December 1, 2005 Quote Tell the libertarians to drop the party lines of completely open borders, completely unrestricted immigration, completely unrestricted and unregulated trading with other countries, and a few of their other really fucking horrible ideas and I just might go along with you. Good points. AND, I wouldn't register Libertarian, I'd register with a major party and try to affect things at the primary level. Then if they still can't offer good candidates, then Libertarian is a potential vote at that point. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #27 December 1, 2005 QuoteQuote Tell the libertarians to drop the party lines of completely open borders, completely unrestricted immigration, completely unrestricted and unregulated trading with other countries, and a few of their other really fucking horrible ideas and I just might go along with you. Good points. AND, I wouldn't register Libertarian, I'd register with a major party and try to affect things at the primary level. Then if they still can't offer good candidates, then Libertarian is a potential vote at that point. If tens of millions of people suddenly registered Libertarian, do you think the Dem's and Repub's would take notice? Of course I guess the same could be said about Libertarians suddenly getting an incredible number of votes. I agree, the Libertarian's have some seriously whacked ideas on some subjects (including immigration, trade, and defense), but by and large the feasible portions of their agenda appeal to me more than those of the donkeys and elephants. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #28 December 1, 2005 Agreed, fiscal conservatism is what Libertarians bring that neither current party brings. Imagine if tens of millions Libertarian-minded people flooded the primary processed of the DFL asnd GOP. Maybe we'd get some people who'd veto some spending once in a while...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #29 December 1, 2005 QuoteImagine if tens of millions Libertarian-minded people How do you motivate that many pot heads at once? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #30 December 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteImagine if tens of millions Libertarian-minded people How do you motivate that many pot heads at once? peanut butter, crackers, cheetos, most anything will do. lots of water, too. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #31 December 2, 2005 QuoteIt still says for your "holiday tree". That's funny, when I just looked it up it says Christmas Tree... Also, if I search "Holiday Ornament" the Christmas Ornament comes up... I cannot find a page that includes what Bill posted... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #32 December 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt still says for your "holiday tree". That's funny, when I just looked it up it says Christmas Tree... Also, if I search "Holiday Ornament" the Christmas Ornament comes up... I cannot find a page that includes what Bill posted... J That is funny, because it WAS there. I guess others noticed the hypocrisy and thought it might be a good idea to hide it from the public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #33 December 2, 2005 QuoteI guess others noticed the hypocrisy and thought it might be a good idea to hide it from the public. Or they noticed it and fired the wacko who built the web page JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #34 December 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteI guess others noticed the hypocrisy and thought it might be a good idea to hide it from the public. Or they noticed it and fired the wacko who built the web page J Or someone just made an honest mistake and corrected it once it was brought to his/her attention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #35 December 2, 2005 QuoteOr someone just made an honest mistake and corrected it once it was brought to his/her attention. My version supports some people's view of the evil right wing conspiracy better JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #36 December 2, 2005 >Or someone just made an honest mistake and corrected it once it >was brought to his/her attention. Most likely. Good thing there are liberals out there to defend christmas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #37 December 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteOr someone just made an honest mistake and corrected it once it was brought to his/her attention. My version supports some people's view of the evil right wing conspiracy better J Yeah, I forgot. Fox asks what someones political affiliations are on the employment application and only hires the extreme right wingers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #38 December 2, 2005 QuoteYeah, I forgot. Fox asks what someones political affiliations are on the employment application and only hires the extreme right wingers. Yeah, kinda like Larry Flynt Publications asks what someone's views on sex are on the employment application and only hires the extremely open and kinky. For some reason, I don't think morally conservative types flock to LFP for employment in droves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 December 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteYeah, I forgot. Fox asks what someones political affiliations are on the employment application and only hires the extreme right wingers. Yeah, kinda like Larry Flynt Publications asks what someone's views on sex are on the employment application and only hires the extremely open and kinky. For some reason, I don't think morally conservative types flock to LFP for employment in droves. I think theres a big difference between what employment someone will accept on moral priciples and what they will accept based on political ideology. Some how I find it hard to believe a graduate coming out of college, refusing a job at any journalistic institution based on their political views. I can however see someone turning down a job with LFP based on their own particular morals. And yes, I'm sure there's exceptions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #40 December 7, 2005 >Or someone just made an honest mistake and corrected it once it was brought to his/her attention. Looks like he made another 'honest mistake.' Go to billoreilly.com and put your cursor over "about Bill." First option that pops up? "Recommended Holiday Gifts." Maybe this time you should point out his honest mistake. Us liberals get tired of defending Christmas from the secularists sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #41 December 7, 2005 Quote>Or someone just made an honest mistake and corrected it once it was brought to his/her attention. Looks like he made another 'honest mistake.' Go to billoreilly.com and put your cursor over "about Bill." First option that pops up? "Recommended Holiday Gifts." Maybe this time you should point out his honest mistake. Us liberals get tired of defending Christmas from the secularists sometimes. This may come as a surprise to you but... Bill O'Reilly isn't the webmaster on his site. Most likely some Liberal trying to make him look bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #42 December 7, 2005 Quote>Or someone just made an honest mistake and corrected it once it was brought to his/her attention. Looks like he made another 'honest mistake.' Go to billoreilly.com and put your cursor over "about Bill." First option that pops up? "Recommended Holiday Gifts." Maybe this time you should point out his honest mistake. Us liberals get tired of defending Christmas from the secularists sometimes. OK I went to the site. The term "Holiday Gifts" is appropriate to whats being advertised ie. a massage cushion and a Vermont Teddy Bear. These aren't specifically Christmas gifts as someone could purchase the Teddy Bear as a Hanukka gift, Kwanza, or even Ramadan gift. So, I don't think it's the same hypocracy as advertising Christmas Tree Ornaments as Holiday Ornaments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #43 December 7, 2005 >Bill O'Reilly isn't the webmaster on his site. Most likely some Liberal trying to make him look bad. Hmm. But O'Reilly doesn't say "boycott the ad managers for Sears" he says "boycott Sears." So I fear we must follow his lead and boycott his website. Unless - you don't think - perhaps he is being a little bit bombastic in his rants against stores? Could it be that he's just working himself up into a lather and not really thinking about what he's saying? You know, that could explain a lot! >The term "Holiday Gifts" is appropriate to whats being advertised ie. a > massage cushion and a Vermont Teddy Bear. These aren't specifically > Christmas gifts as someone could purchase the Teddy Bear as a Hanukka >gift, Kwanza, or even Ramadan gift. >So, I don't think it's the same hypocracy as advertising Christmas Tree >Ornaments as Holiday Ornaments. It's exactly the same. I put lights all over my house. None are on a tree. Many people do the same, christian or not. So why the whining over "christmas lights" as opposed to "holiday lights?" A woman down the hall has ornaments all over her door. I have no idea if she's christian or not. They are just as much holiday ornaments as they are christmas ornaments. I celebrate christmas. You don't have to. That's what's great about america. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2005 Quote>Bill O'Reilly isn't the webmaster on his site. Most likely some Liberal trying to make him look bad. Hmm. But O'Reilly doesn't say "boycott the ad managers for Sears" he says "boycott Sears." So I fear we must follow his lead and boycott his website. Unless - you don't think - perhaps he is being a little bit bombastic in his rants against stores? Could it be that he's just working himself up into a lather and not really thinking about what he's saying? You know, that could explain a lot! >The term "Holiday Gifts" is appropriate to whats being advertised ie. a > massage cushion and a Vermont Teddy Bear. These aren't specifically > Christmas gifts as someone could purchase the Teddy Bear as a Hanukka >gift, Kwanza, or even Ramadan gift. >So, I don't think it's the same hypocracy as advertising Christmas Tree >Ornaments as Holiday Ornaments. It's exactly the same. I put lights all over my house. None are on a tree. Many people do the same, christian or not. So why the whining over "christmas lights" as opposed to "holiday lights?" A woman down the hall has ornaments all over her door. I have no idea if she's christian or not. They are just as much holiday ornaments as they are christmas ornaments. I celebrate christmas. You don't have to. That's what's great about america. You are trying to force your Judeo-Christian hypocracy down the throats of Jews, Muslims, Buddists etc by insisting that any gift given during December be considered a Christmas gift? You insist that the purchase of a non-denominational present like a Vermont Teddy Bear be called a Christmas Gift? How narrow - minded of you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #45 December 7, 2005 >You are trying to force your Judeo-Christian hypocracy down the throats >of Jews, Muslims, Buddists etc by insisting that any gift given during >December be considered a Christmas gift? Yep. We have a special room where we herd them and pelt them with statues of angels, plastic baby Jesuses and Christmas cookies. I was going to get some O'Reilly Christmas ornaments to pelt them with as well, but alas . . . BTW can you really force Judeo-Christian hypocrisy on a Jew? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #46 December 7, 2005 QuoteBTW can you really force Judeo-Christian hypocrisy on a Jew? Well, you can try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #47 December 7, 2005 Hmm. But O'Reilly doesn't say "boycott the ad managers for Sears" he says "boycott Sears." So I fear we must follow his lead and boycott his website. Unless - you don't think - perhaps he is being a little bit bombastic in his rants against stores? Could it be that he's just working himself up into a lather and not really thinking about what he's saying? Could you please provide a link to where Bill said to Boycott these stores? In your first post you claim "Recently O'Reilly called for a boycott of stores that refuse to refer to the holiday as "christmas" and use "happy holidays" or whatever, all part of his 'Christmas Crusade.' " I was watching the Factor last night and he claims that while others have called for he boycott, that he has done no such thing. Also my impression is that he has no problem with the work Holiday so much as people who refuse to use the word Christmas. He wishes Happy Holidays, Hanukkah, and Merry Christmas. Just confused my your rant. We all use the word Holiday's. But some refuse to use the word Christmas at all. It seems to me this is what O'reilly has a problem with. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #48 December 7, 2005 Quote Hmm. But O'Reilly doesn't say "boycott the ad managers for Sears" he says "boycott Sears." So I fear we must follow his lead and boycott his website. Unless - you don't think - perhaps he is being a little bit bombastic in his rants against stores? Could it be that he's just working himself up into a lather and not really thinking about what he's saying? Could you please provide a link to where Bill said to Boycott these stores? In your first post you claim "Recently O'Reilly called for a boycott of stores that refuse to refer to the holiday as "christmas" and use "happy holidays" or whatever, all part of his 'Christmas Crusade.' " I was watching the Factor last night and he claims that while others have called for he boycott, that he has done no such thing. Also my impression is that he has no problem with the work Holiday so much as people who refuse to use the word Christmas. He wishes Happy Holidays, Hanukkah, and Merry Christmas. Just confused my your rant. We all use the word Holiday's. But some refuse to use the word Christmas at all. It seems to me this is what O'reilly has a problem with. I don't see that it's any of O'Reilly's business what word anyone uses. If I use "Solstice" and he doesn't like it, he can KMA.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2005 QuoteI don't see that it's any of O'Reilly's business what word anyone uses. If I use "Solstice" and he doesn't like it, he can KMA. Well then, Merry Solstice to you. Of course you understand this means we won't be buying any Christmas gifts from Kallend Inc. this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #50 December 7, 2005 Quote QuoteI don't see that it's any of O'Reilly's business what word anyone uses. If I use "Solstice" and he doesn't like it, he can KMA. Well then, Merry Solstice to you. Of course you understand this means we won't be buying any Christmas gifts from Kallend Inc. this year. Merry Solstice to you too. (That is, of course, what the celebration is really about, anyway. Jesus was NOT born on Dec 25.) O'Reilly is just grandstanding.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites