SpeedRacer 1 #1 November 29, 2005 I was thinking about demonstaters who burn American or British flags & I was wondering if anyone here would ever burn another country's flag, and if so, which country & why. Personally, I can't think of any country whose flag I would burn. It's just too hateful, IMHO. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #2 November 29, 2005 There's a note about flag burning as the correct process for old American flags. I know that's not what you mean, so thought to just get that out of the way. I think burning a flag is stupid expression of free speech, I wouldn't do it. Not to my own flag or another's. If another thinks it's legitimate, then fine, go ahead, I think they are idiots wasting energy. It's definitely not art, when that excuse is used, it's just a childish tantrum. But I'm not a fan of symbolism, so if it wasn't for the purpose of some obscure symbolic gesture - Then I'd burn flags, no problem - if I was cold and there wasn't any wood to burn. edit: short answer - as a symbolic message or gesture? No that's for the idiots. As a practical matter? sure, cloth burns nice. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytash 0 #3 November 29, 2005 no, part of the joy of free speech is that I can also respect others right to free speech. If I disagree with them, I can just ignore them. tashDon't ever save anything for a special occasion. Being alive is a special occasion. Avril Sloe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #4 November 29, 2005 i would never burn another nations flag in protest. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #5 November 29, 2005 No. The point, in virtually all cases, is disagreeing with the (in)actions of the government or dominant religous group - not the general populouce. Burning a flag, sounds...I don't know...racist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #6 November 29, 2005 i would, probably the Irish LOL Is burning a flag any worse than being verbally abusive, i don't think so________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #7 November 29, 2005 at least if you're verbally abusive, you can articulate just what you mean, whereas I've always thought that flag burning is just blind & impotent rage. have you ever noticed what total losers flag burners are? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #8 November 29, 2005 Quotehave you ever noticed what total losers flag burners are? strange, since their visible actions are essentially impotent whining, I don't notice anything else about them after that point in time at all..... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 November 29, 2005 On the other hand... Have you ever noticed what total losers flag wavers are? ...... just the other side of the same coin [maybe]. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #10 November 29, 2005 Quoteat least if you're verbally abusive, you can articulate just what you mean, whereas I've always thought that flag burning is just blind & impotent rage. have you ever noticed what total losers flag burners are? Bubba and Jed were riding in a wagon pulled by a mule. The mule just up and stopped so Bubba began to use the whip. Jed was shocked by this behavior and told the Bubba that you have to treat the mule kindly, to speak to him softly and caringly to bring him around to pulling the wagon again. Bubba says, OK, give it a shot so Jed gets out, picks up a 2x4 and smacks the mule across the forehead. Bubba jumps up and says, I though you had to treat him kindly. Yep, Jed says, but first you have to get his attention. Sometimes, burning a flag might do just that.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #11 November 29, 2005 don't read too much into it, its just a bit of cloth________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #12 November 29, 2005 Quote But I'm not a fan of symbolism, so if it wasn't for the purpose of some obscure symbolic gesture - Then I'd burn flags, no problem - if I was cold and there wasn't any wood to burn. There is my opinion...straight from rehmwa's keyboard.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #13 November 29, 2005 only if i needed it for fuel.. as a political statement its rather worthless...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #14 November 29, 2005 not many otehr countries honour their flag as mych as the US does, To americans their flag means something, to many populations of other countries, they could care less... growing up in Holland, Iw ould have happily burned a German flag....I doubt any german would have really cared though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #15 November 29, 2005 Quotenot many otehr countries honour their flag as mych as the US does, To americans their flag means something, to many populations of other countries, they could care less... growing up in Holland, Iw ould have happily burned a German flag....I doubt any german would have really cared though as an Englishman, I'm very patriotic of the Cross of Saint George, but the Union Jack doesn't fill me with as much pride... i'm still proud of it, but its the cross of Saint George that means the most to me I'd think somebody was a twat if i saw them burn a Cross of Saint George________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 November 29, 2005 The Union Jack isn't s'posed to fill you with pride... it's just the pole on which the Union Flag flies (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #17 November 29, 2005 QuoteThe Union Jack isn't s'posed to fill you with pride... it's just the pole on which the Union Flag flies just living up to my signature________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #18 November 29, 2005 Jezz some times it really fits (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #19 November 29, 2005 I wouldn't just because it's lame. I don't get upset when I see people burning the US flag. I just think they're idiots. What point does it prove? Flags in general are a silly invention. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian84 0 #20 November 30, 2005 Quotei would, probably the Irish LOL Is burning a flag any worse than being verbally abusive, i don't think so Well, I'm an Irish person livng in the UK. In fact, I'm in the military so the amount of verbal abuse I receive is second to none. Mostly its well meant and just a bit of banter but if someone dared burn the tricolour in front of me that person would lose a few teeth, but I would never burn the flag of any country. Something about it seems more deeply offensive than just giving me a slagging. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NlghtJumper 0 #21 November 30, 2005 I am a soldier currently fighting in Afghanistan. And personally, the US Flag means quite a bit to me. If I were to see someone burning it, or disgracing it in any other way, I would be really pissed. Though the general population of civilians in the US may look at the flag as just a piece of cloth, I see it as so much more. I would never burn another countries flag either. To me, it is the ultimate disrespect to any country. A man will do anything for the right woman, and when that woman destroys him, that man will become a hunk of meat with the common sense of a rodeo clown! ~ Christopher Titus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #22 November 30, 2005 I'm guessing that burning a French flag (in particular the white bit) would be a serious crime. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #23 November 30, 2005 QuoteThe Union Jack isn't s'posed to fill you with pride... it's just the pole on which the Union Flag flies Err... The "Union Jack" is in fact a flag. Specifically it's the Union Flag when flown from the Jackstaff of a vessel (or even on occasion a building)! Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #24 November 30, 2005 The Flag Institute says: It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #25 November 30, 2005 I understand that the term Union "Jack" dated back to the Battle of Camperdown along with the term "Nailing Your Colours to The Mast". Then again, like Jack Crawford I am a native of Sunderland so this particular historical claim may have a biased pedigree. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites