avenfoto 0 #26 November 30, 2005 QuoteBubba and Jed were riding in a wagon pulled by a mule. The mule just up and stopped so Bubba began to use the whip. Jed was shocked by this behavior and told the Bubba that you have to treat the mule kindly, to speak to him softly and caringly to bring him around to pulling the wagon again. Bubba says, OK, give it a shot so Jed gets out, picks up a 2x4 and smacks the mule across the forehead. Bubba jumps up and says, I though you had to treat him kindly. Yep, Jed says, but first you have to get his attention. Sometimes, burning a flag might do just that. well said.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnarok 0 #27 November 30, 2005 Ahh, flag burning, my favorite subject. First, the flag is a symbol of what our country stands for, not the government. Burn it and you spit in the face of every red-blooded American that has ever fought for their country. I do not agree with it at all. I do, however think that if you desire to burn the flag, that is more of a privilige (sp?) than a right. I don't like it, and I would rather you not. I am a Soldier and I salute that flag and think of you, and what my service means to me, every day. Chew on that for a moment._________________________________________ Twin Otter N203-Echo,29 July 2006 Cessna P206 N2537X, 19 April 2008 Blue Skies Forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #28 November 30, 2005 QuoteOn the other hand... Have you ever noticed what total losers flag wavers are? ...... just the other side of the same coin [maybe]. Oh, nice!! Most soldiers I know are considered flag wavers. Thanks for disparaging them and a pretty large % of the U.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #29 November 30, 2005 QuoteAhh, flag burning, my favorite subject. First, the flag is a symbol of what our country stands for, not the government. I tend to think of it more as a flag. If it symbolizes anything, it symbolizes the freedom to burn it. Quote Burn it and you spit in the face of every red-blooded American that has ever fought for their country. No you don't. You just burn a flag. Quote I do not agree with it at all. That is your right Quote I do, however think that if you desire to burn the flag, that is more of a privilige (sp?) than a right. The Supreme Court of the United States does not agree with you. Quote I don't like it, and I would rather you not. I am a Soldier and I salute that flag and think of you, and what my service means to me, every day. Chew on that for a moment. Congratulations, but I never heard it said that enlisting made anyone omniscient. The ONLY reason anyone burns a flag (except for ceremonial retirement) is to piss off people like you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #30 November 30, 2005 QuoteOn the other hand... Have you ever noticed what total losers flag wavers are? ...... just the other side of the same coin [maybe]. I often wave a flag. I have one in my office and one in my workshop. I have a US flag decal on my helmet too. If you think I'm a loser on account of it, feel free to do so. The people I think are losers are the ones who (figuratively) wrap themselves in the flag, stage photo ops in front of the flag, etc., or those who get all bent out of shape about what someone else does with their flag, and who think that a piece of fabric is more important than Constitutional freedoms. I rather like both the US and UK flags and choose not to burn them, but if someone wants to burn his, I can't say it bothers me in the slightest. Just more business for the Chinese making new ones.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #31 November 30, 2005 QuoteI was thinking about demonstaters who burn American or British flags & I was wondering if anyone here would ever burn another country's flag, and if so, which country & why. I wouldn't burn any country's flag. Not even the communist countries and dictatorial countries. However, I would burn an effigy of the despotic leaders of said countries, most notably North Korea's Kim Jong Il, as well as effigies of Osama Bin Laden and Musab Al Zarqawi... they deserve the hate heaped their way as far as I'm concerned. Does Voodoo still work? Could I take an effigy and stick a huge needle in them? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #32 November 30, 2005 Absolutely not. It's incredibly disrespectful and no matter what that country has done under a certain leadership, the flag does not necessarily represent the views and actions of the country's leadership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 0 #33 November 30, 2005 I wiped my ass on a mates Celtic FC T shirt once after they beat Rangers FC. does this count ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #34 November 30, 2005 I think most intelligent people know that a flag is just cloth and that they should not get too stressed about somebody else burning cloth. If you burn cloth in privacy, especially cloth you had to pay for in the first place, that I think is as stupid as spilling French wines that Americans bought as a statement against the French. All that being said I could still see situations in which flag burning or Koran burning may have a useful purpose. For example you have a terrorist that you are interogating and he knows about terrorist activities that are about to take place. You punch him in the face and it accomplishes nothing, you zap him with electricity and he still does not respond because he doesn't care about his own life. Now you burn a Koran in front of him and it really offends him. You make it clear that you will continue to do this until he comes around. Now you have a real tool to work with and in this case, I don't think its stupid. .If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #35 November 30, 2005 Quotebut first you have to get his attention. Sometimes, burning a flag might do just that. ... well said.... "Hey look, someone's burning a flag and screeching about something. Got my attention, though." "Yep, she's an idiot. Ignore her, if she can't get her message across without sensational tactics, then her message must not be worth listening to. Or she just wants attention and doesn't really know what her problem is. Pathetically sad isn't it? Like a child throwing a tantrum" "Who cares? It her flag she can do what she wants with her property - you feel like mexican food for lunch?" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #36 November 30, 2005 "i would, probably the Irish LOL"------------------ Them there is fighting words boy . Reading a book(I'm Irish) about 1800-1900 Ireland. Makes me wanna go kill some EnglishmenI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #37 November 30, 2005 Quote"i would, probably the Irish LOL"------------------ Them there is fighting words boy . Reading a book(I'm Irish) about 1800-1900 Ireland. Makes me wanna go kill some Englishmen Can't we come to some sort of reasonable compromise here? Surely the sole reason for the continued existence of The Welsh is for The English & The Irish to lash out at each other without actually damaging anything useful or valuable! Mike. Edited to add: Unless someone... ANYONE... can think of any practical use for The Welsh? Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #38 November 30, 2005 QuoteUnless someone... ANYONE... can think of any practical use for The Welsh? Isn't Catherine Zeta Jones Welsh? She's a decent export. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #39 November 30, 2005 QuoteUnless someone... ANYONE... can think of any practical use for The Welsh? They hosted a pretty damn good Prodigy gig on Sunday night in Cardiff. Whole place was one giant mosh pit. Great stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #40 November 30, 2005 No........never Even though after "Bloody Sunday" I took a real close look at a "Union Jack"Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markd_nscr986 0 #41 November 30, 2005 QuoteUnless someone... ANYONE... can think of any practical use for The Welsh? To torture the "Saesons" with our incomprehensible road signs And I'll bestow a tradtional Welsh greeting on you......that is reserved for the English (Saeson) Ty'll tyn i pob saeson! Cymru Am Byth!Y DDraig Goch ddyry Gychwyn!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #42 November 30, 2005 Quotedon't read too much into it, its just a bit of cloth That's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #43 November 30, 2005 ***Ty'll tyn i pob saeson![Wink] Cymru Am Byth![Smile] Y DDraig Goch ddyry Gychwyn![Cool] -------- So you're saying all Welsh people have busted keyboards?? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SudsyFist 0 #44 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuotedon't read too much into it, its just a bit of cloth That's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that. OK, I'll bite: It's just a bit of cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #45 November 30, 2005 QuoteOK, I'll bite: It's just a bit of cloth. You're right. It is made of cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #46 November 30, 2005 QuoteThat's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that Huge batytles have been fought to preserve capitalism by the US and teh west as a whole. Money is probably the biggest representation of capitalism and the US lifestyle. Do you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #47 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteThat's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that Huge batytles have been fought to preserve capitalism by the US and teh west as a whole. Money is probably the biggest representation of capitalism and the US lifestyle. Do you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? I think we're talking about the flag here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #48 November 30, 2005 QuoteI think we're talking about the flag here. And I chose to introduce anotehr very important symbol....I'll just chalk this one up to "unwilling to answer". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #49 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think we're talking about the flag here. And I chose to introduce anotehr very important symbol....I'll just chalk this one up to "unwilling to answer". Stay focused man.... You can do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sen.Blutarsky 0 #50 November 30, 2005 QuoteDo you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? Yes. It means $1 less that a well-intentioned person could have donated to charity and good works. Burn a symbolic note if you wish to register political protest but give the actual item to a worthy cause instead of acting on your rage against the machine. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
markd_nscr986 0 #40 November 30, 2005 No........never Even though after "Bloody Sunday" I took a real close look at a "Union Jack"Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #41 November 30, 2005 QuoteUnless someone... ANYONE... can think of any practical use for The Welsh? To torture the "Saesons" with our incomprehensible road signs And I'll bestow a tradtional Welsh greeting on you......that is reserved for the English (Saeson) Ty'll tyn i pob saeson! Cymru Am Byth!Y DDraig Goch ddyry Gychwyn!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #42 November 30, 2005 Quotedon't read too much into it, its just a bit of cloth That's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #43 November 30, 2005 ***Ty'll tyn i pob saeson![Wink] Cymru Am Byth![Smile] Y DDraig Goch ddyry Gychwyn![Cool] -------- So you're saying all Welsh people have busted keyboards?? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SudsyFist 0 #44 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuotedon't read too much into it, its just a bit of cloth That's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that. OK, I'll bite: It's just a bit of cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #45 November 30, 2005 QuoteOK, I'll bite: It's just a bit of cloth. You're right. It is made of cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #46 November 30, 2005 QuoteThat's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that Huge batytles have been fought to preserve capitalism by the US and teh west as a whole. Money is probably the biggest representation of capitalism and the US lifestyle. Do you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #47 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteThat's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that Huge batytles have been fought to preserve capitalism by the US and teh west as a whole. Money is probably the biggest representation of capitalism and the US lifestyle. Do you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? I think we're talking about the flag here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #48 November 30, 2005 QuoteI think we're talking about the flag here. And I chose to introduce anotehr very important symbol....I'll just chalk this one up to "unwilling to answer". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pajarito 0 #49 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think we're talking about the flag here. And I chose to introduce anotehr very important symbol....I'll just chalk this one up to "unwilling to answer". Stay focused man.... You can do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Sen.Blutarsky 0 #50 November 30, 2005 QuoteDo you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? Yes. It means $1 less that a well-intentioned person could have donated to charity and good works. Burn a symbolic note if you wish to register political protest but give the actual item to a worthy cause instead of acting on your rage against the machine. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
pajarito 0 #42 November 30, 2005 Quotedon't read too much into it, its just a bit of cloth That's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #43 November 30, 2005 ***Ty'll tyn i pob saeson![Wink] Cymru Am Byth![Smile] Y DDraig Goch ddyry Gychwyn![Cool] -------- So you're saying all Welsh people have busted keyboards?? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #44 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuotedon't read too much into it, its just a bit of cloth That's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that. OK, I'll bite: It's just a bit of cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #45 November 30, 2005 QuoteOK, I'll bite: It's just a bit of cloth. You're right. It is made of cloth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #46 November 30, 2005 QuoteThat's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that Huge batytles have been fought to preserve capitalism by the US and teh west as a whole. Money is probably the biggest representation of capitalism and the US lifestyle. Do you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #47 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteThat's the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who's never made personal sacrifice in it's defense. It's more than "just a bit of cloth." It "represents" MUCH more than that Huge batytles have been fought to preserve capitalism by the US and teh west as a whole. Money is probably the biggest representation of capitalism and the US lifestyle. Do you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? I think we're talking about the flag here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #48 November 30, 2005 QuoteI think we're talking about the flag here. And I chose to introduce anotehr very important symbol....I'll just chalk this one up to "unwilling to answer". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #49 November 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think we're talking about the flag here. And I chose to introduce anotehr very important symbol....I'll just chalk this one up to "unwilling to answer". Stay focused man.... You can do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #50 November 30, 2005 QuoteDo you get upset when some one burns a $1 bill? Yes. It means $1 less that a well-intentioned person could have donated to charity and good works. Burn a symbolic note if you wish to register political protest but give the actual item to a worthy cause instead of acting on your rage against the machine. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
