ReBirth 0 #1 November 23, 2005 They're all murderers of the innocent!!!! Sorry...just applying the same logic that some on here apply to muslims. http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/13239152.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #2 November 23, 2005 QuoteThey're all murderers of the innocent!!!! Sorry...just applying the same logic that some on here apply to muslims. http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/13239152.htm Thread title is much too complicated for simple minds like me. It should read: Easy access to weapons allows easy killing Sorry. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #3 November 23, 2005 Quote Thread title is much too complicated for simple minds like me. It should read: Easy access to weapons allows easy killing Sorry. Yea but if we post all of the incidents where "Easy access to weapons allows easy killing" was the problem think how many threads there would be. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #4 November 23, 2005 Or how about "People of Germanic heritage prone to violence." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigwallmaster 0 #5 November 23, 2005 Fucking beautiful post bro. I love this kind of stuff. J.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 November 23, 2005 QuoteOr how about "People of Germanic heritage prone to violence." I'm half German descent. That just makes me mad. {{[Where the hell is my map through Belgium? When you're mad, you just can't find maps, tanks, or the horn on the car.......}}} ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #7 November 23, 2005 QuoteI'm half German descent. That just makes me mad Me too.....on both points. And I have easy access to guns. Suprisingly, no one around me is dead yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #8 November 23, 2005 QuoteOr how about "People of Germanic heritage prone to violence." Oh yeah, babe. All in laquer and leather. Just hold a cat-o'-nine-tails in my hands... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 November 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteI'm half German descent. That just makes me mad Me too.....on both points. And I have easy access to guns. Suprisingly, no one around me is dead yet. That's just because you aren't near Belgium, Netherlands, or France. Careful with those guns, if an SUV gets near one, they team up and start killing. I don't recall if the SUV starts shooting the gun or if the gun starts driving the SUV. But you know it won't be good. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #10 November 23, 2005 whoa...kinky....me likey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #11 November 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteOr how about "People of Germanic heritage prone to violence." I'm half German descent. That just makes me mad. {{[Where the hell is my map through Belgium? When you're mad, you just can't find maps, tanks, or the horn on the car.......}}} Rehmwa, slow down, you cannot change the mistakes your oldies once made. Go to your garage, open your car... there you will find all maps you need. Just forget about Belgium. From the coast of DD it's only a small jump to your home country. You're welcome. Cya Christel dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #12 November 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteOr how about "People of Germanic heritage prone to violence." I'm half German descent. That just makes me mad. Negative, it just makes you half-mad... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #13 November 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteThey're all murderers of the innocent!!!! Sorry...just applying the same logic that some on here apply to muslims. http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/13239152.htm Thread title is much too complicated for simple minds like me. It should read: Easy access to weapons allows easy killing Sorry. Yes, it would have been sooooooooooo much better if he had beaten them to death with a hammer. Oh wait, you're German--sorry. I should have said, it would have been sooooooooooooo much better if he had killed them in a gas chamber. Sorry--couldn't resist. Christel, it's not guns that are the problem, it's the mindset of the people who commit those kinds of crimes. With or without a gun, they will find a way to kill their intended victims. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #14 November 24, 2005 QuoteI'm half German descent. That just makes me mad -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Me too.....on both points. And I have easy access to guns. Suprisingly, no one around me is dead yet. You can only claim that because they haven't found the bodies yet. BTW, I'm half German too and as Kallend pointed out, I'm only half mad. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #15 November 24, 2005 QuoteOr how about "People of Germanic heritage prone to violence." He was of Austrian heritage - get over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noluckned 0 #16 November 24, 2005 In an astounding break with tradition the Bordens were not killed with an axe!! *Disclaimer* The views expressed in the above post may or may not be the result of drunkeness or temporary insanity and should only rarely be construed as the views of the poster himself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #17 November 25, 2005 QuoteThread title is much too complicated for simple minds like me. It should read: Easy access to weapons allows easy killing Sorry. After the shootings, police seized 54 guns from the home where Ludwig lived with his parents, according to court documents Holly Molly, why would anyone want to have 54 guns in his home if you only have 2 hands? maybe too much of Rambo in his Corn Flakes. I guess i am being naive when i think that a bit of gun control here could have made the diference... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 November 25, 2005 Contrary to popular liberal thought, guns don't jump up out of the safe and go on rampages... a human still has to be in the loop.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #19 November 25, 2005 Sorry--couldn't resist. Christel, it's not guns that are the problem, it's the mindset of the people who commit those kinds of crimes. With or without a gun, they will find a way to kill their intended victims. I think that's probably not true most of the time. I think a lot of people are probably killed with guns who wouldn't be killed if there were no guns. BUT, I still think that saving us from ourselves by taking away guns is the wrong response. People have to have choices, even if some people choose very, very badly. More regulation of our lives is not an acceptable solution in my mind. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #20 November 25, 2005 QuoteSorry--couldn't resist. Christel, it's not guns that are the problem, it's the mindset of the people who commit those kinds of crimes. With or without a gun, they will find a way to kill their intended victims. I think that's probably not true most of the time. I think a lot of people are probably killed with guns who wouldn't be killed if there were no guns. BUT, I still think that saving us from ourselves by taking away guns is the wrong response. People have to have choices, even if some people choose very, very badly. More regulation of our lives is not an acceptable solution in my mind. linz The one quote I've heard from the anti-gun crowd that I could really agree with is, "Guns don't kill people--they just make it easier." I think that ties in to what you are saying. Without a guns, Columbine and other sites of mass killings would have had fewer deaths. I don't think there can be much doubt about that. I don't have any statistics handy, but I think it's safe to say that the overwhelming majority of gun murders in the US are much more of a one-on-one thing. Without guns, would all of those murders happen? It's probably safe to say that not all would. Would it be safe to say that most would not happen? That's a whole lot more iffy. My gut feeling is that most would. Yours is that they wouldn't. When I get time, I'll see if I can find some sort of stats that might indicate one way or the other. Finding unbiased stats would probably be nearly impossible, but could be pretty interesting. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #21 November 25, 2005 Quotewhoa...kinky....me likey Don't get TOO excited... Almost all Germans are only ever really happy wearing leather and spanking each other... Hence the whole Lederhosen dancing thing. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #22 November 25, 2005 I think in this situation, more of the cause would be related to lack of discussion, and freedoms. The boy felt he had no other choice. Does that mean what he did was right? Hell NO but it was what he thought was necessary. It seems in reading the article that he tried to talk with her parents, what actually was said - who knows, but they did try to talk. The end of the discussion wasn't to his liking and so he felt he had no other recourse than to use force. I'm not saying that I approve of the actions, but the motive was there. Discussion is more than talking and although parents think that they are "protecting" their children... sometimes listening is important too. Or she might have had excellent parents and this guy had previously shown a pattern of acting as if he was certifably insane... we will probably hear A LOT more about the dynamics in the press over the next few months. and for the record.... it doesn't REALLY matter if he owned 2 guns, or 54 or 500 guns.... Its the fact that he used one to kill someone that is illegal here. Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #23 November 25, 2005 QuoteI think that ties in to what you are saying. Without a guns, Columbine and other sites of mass killings would have had fewer deaths. I don't think there can be much doubt about that. Clearly you have not seen "Kill Bill" Vol 1. Knives and swords are the true threat. Unlike guns - they CAN kill by themselves, plus they NEVER jam and they NEVER run out of ammunition. Thank God for guns, the sensible, less than lethal alternative! tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 November 25, 2005 I know you're joking, but I recall seeing a study that showed something on the rough order of 75% of shooting victims making it to the hospital alive, as opposed to a rough order of 40% of stabbing victims.... scary thought, isn't it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #25 November 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI think that ties in to what you are saying. Without a guns, Columbine and other sites of mass killings would have had fewer deaths. I don't think there can be much doubt about that. Clearly you have not seen "Kill Bill" Vol 1. Knives and swords are the true threat. Unlike guns - they CAN kill by themselves, plus they NEVER jam and they NEVER run out of ammunition. Thank God for guns, the sensible, less than lethal alternative! t I have to admit that I am one of the few who have not seen that movie. Sounds like a true source of enlightenment--I'll have to rent it one of these days! The Brits seem to have a handle on the edged weapons problem. They must have seen the flick! Hmmm. Remember the recent disussion in SC about whether Bobbies should carry guns? Maybe they should carry knives. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
