lawrocket 3 #26 November 23, 2005 QuoteControl the media and you control the thought processes of the masses. Repeat a catch phrase often enough and people (stupid people but people none the less) begin to believe it. Yep. And the opinion of plenty in this country is that before Fox News came into existence, it was the same thing from the other side. Now, Fox News is, in my opinion, clearly a right-leaning news organization. The others are, in my opinion, clearly left-leaning. Is Fox News fair and balanced? I'd call it fair, but not necessarily balanced. I think it leans a to the right. If you'd gauge it with a level, the bubble would not be centered, but would encroach upon it. The same holds true for CNN, with the bubble not centered but encroahing upon it. I think both are fair. Neither are perfectly balanced, though. But, I believe that Fox News DOES provide balance to the others. It's news presented another way. BTW - if I want world news, I check out bbc. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #27 November 23, 2005 QuoteNow, Fox News is, in my opinion, clearly a right-leaning news organization. The others are, in my opinion, clearly left-leaning. Just for the record, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting's board has a Republican chairman, Republican vice-chair, and a Republican majority. The former (also Republican) chairman has been disciplined for actions taken (in violation of the corporation's own rules) to promote a rightist agenda.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #28 November 23, 2005 I knew that. BTW - I have NPR programmed into my radio when I wake up. Do I find it completely balanced? Nope. It's just my opinion. But I like that it covers stuff that is pretty outside of the mainstream. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #29 November 23, 2005 >It's not like you can just set up a shop and folks will wander in. This is very true, but if its something that people want or is in high demand, that is were you can make a difference. Nothing like having a passion for what you love and make money doing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #30 November 23, 2005 >to promote a rightist agenda. But rest asured your leftist agenda will continue as it has for years, but without my financial support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #31 November 23, 2005 Blatantly false and misleading ads have been aired on TV for decades. Anyone remember Nike ads saying "we don't employ child laborers" ? I would love to see TV networks step up and block ALL false and misleading ads, not just the ones that contradict their world view. I'd also love to see things go a step further, and have people (or gov't) be able to hold TV networks responsible when they do air false ads. There's no reason to limit this restriction to political ads. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #32 November 23, 2005 Quote>to promote a rightist agenda. But rest asured your leftist agenda will continue as it has for years, but without my financial support. I don't have a leftist agenda. I am probably more of a capitalist than you are. My agenda is to oppose lying warmongers who fund their spending sprees by borrowing from our children and grandchildren while claiming "fiscal responsibility". It is also to oppose those who try to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else. It is also to oppose those who try to circumvent the Bill of Rights by (among other things) running secret prisons on foreign soil. On the whole, I'd say that's a fairly conservative agenda.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #33 November 23, 2005 >On the whole, I'd say that's a fairly conservative agenda. Yea, maybe so in your circle of friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #34 November 23, 2005 QuoteThere is a small, (very, very small) percentage of stocks being held by the average joe. Sure there are individual stock holders, like myself, but the amount of control those individuals have over the corporations is MINISCULE. The major stockholders are the institutions - mutual funds. And Calpers (California's public employee retirement system) is an example that does put some influence on corporations. But their duty is to their investors, so it's always going to be about some sort of gain in stock value, either in the short term (less good) or long term. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #35 November 23, 2005 QuoteBlatantly false and misleading ads have been aired on TV for decades. Anyone remember Nike ads saying "we don't employ child laborers" ? I would love to see TV networks step up and block ALL false and misleading ads, not just the ones that contradict their world view. I'd also love to see things go a step further, and have people (or gov't) be able to hold TV networks responsible when they do air false ads. There's no reason to limit this restriction to political ads. _Am Totally agree. Good post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #36 November 24, 2005 QuoteQuote>to promote a rightist agenda. But rest asured your leftist agenda will continue as it has for years, but without my financial support. I don't have a leftist agenda. I am probably more of a capitalist than you are. My agenda is to oppose lying warmongers who fund their spending sprees by borrowing from our children and grandchildren while claiming "fiscal responsibility". It is also to oppose those who try to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else. It is also to oppose those who try to circumvent the Bill of Rights by (among other things) running secret prisons on foreign soil. On the whole, I'd say that's a fairly conservative agenda. Exclusive of your other points, please show video of people being forced to worship... if you can't, then your point is invalid, and merely an attempt to spread hysteria.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #37 November 24, 2005 QuoteBlatantly false and misleading ads have been aired on TV for decades. Anyone remember Nike ads saying "we don't employ child laborers" ? Happens all the time doesn't it? Why...it even happens in skydiving! Imagine that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #38 November 24, 2005 Factually incorrect ads should not be aired when it's concerning a person. There's a difference between advertising for a product and exaggerating what it can do versus facilitating the propagation of false information which might damage one's character in the public's eyes. The network is as guilty as the person or organization who wrote it. Networks are or at least should be responsible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #39 November 24, 2005 QuoteIt's their business and they can air or not air whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't violate normal election rules, which this doesn't appear to do. THAT SAID, if they refuse to run the ad, they (and their supporters) really need to come to grips with the fact that Fox News really does have a blatant political agenda. Now, I know what some folks are going to say, that so does CBS and a host of others, but if you look at the wide variety left, right and center of reporting on all the other news outlets (including NPR) and compare what you see to Fox News, it then becomes -quite- appearant how far to the right Fox News slants almost all of their coverage of -everything-. Fox News is a TOOL of corporate control of America. Fox News is neither fair nor balanced. Fox News scares the hell out of me. Not because I'm a "left leaning liberal from California", but because first and foremost I'm just another average guy in the middle class that has less and less control over my life because corporate America is taking over our country. What an erudite and well argued post, thanks and i heartedly concur with what you say. Ever thought about running for Mayor? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #40 November 24, 2005 I see nothing wrong with this. QuotePaul Schur, a spokesman for FOX News, said that according to the network's lawyers, the ad is "factually incorrect and we've given them an opportunity to fix it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #41 November 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote>to promote a rightist agenda. But rest asured your leftist agenda will continue as it has for years, but without my financial support. I don't have a leftist agenda. I am probably more of a capitalist than you are. My agenda is to oppose lying warmongers who fund their spending sprees by borrowing from our children and grandchildren while claiming "fiscal responsibility". It is also to oppose those who try to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else. It is also to oppose those who try to circumvent the Bill of Rights by (among other things) running secret prisons on foreign soil. On the whole, I'd say that's a fairly conservative agenda. Exclusive of your other points, please show video of people being forced to worship... if you can't, then your point is invalid, and merely an attempt to spread hysteria. You take a ridiculously narrow view. Imposing your beliefs on me does not JUST mean forcing me to worship, now does it? It would include teaching "intelligent design" in public schools, trying to impose restrictions on doctor/patient relationships, using my tax money to support "faith based" initiatives and to support religious schools... A true conservative would know the government should have no role in any of these.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #42 November 24, 2005 I agree. Interesting banter this has produced, though a bit less than what I expected. I'm really surprised that this story did not get a lot more attention from the rest of the media - especially CNN, given their unbridled hatred of FOX. For those of you who voted that Fox news is obviously a tool of the right wing, how many of you were screaming when hundreds of collegeiate newspapers refused to run Horowitz's anti-affirmative action ad in their papers (it contained no lies, by the way)? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #43 November 24, 2005 QuoteI agree. Interesting banter this has produced, though a bit less than what I expected. I'm really surprised that this story did not get a lot more attention from the rest of the media - especially CNN, given their unbridled hatred of FOX. For those of you who voted that Fox news is obviously a tool of the right wing, how many of you were screaming when hundreds of collegeiate newspapers refused to run Horowitz's anti-affirmative action ad in their papers (it contained no lies, by the way)? You seriously equate college newspapers with Fox News? Seriously? What a JACKASS! I'm pleasantly surprised if our college newspaper gets its own name correct.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #44 November 24, 2005 Of course not, my dear Kallend. I was just making an analogy. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
