jeiber 0 #1 November 22, 2005 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176375,00.html Ok, it's been a rough day at work, and I take a break and see this crap... I have to ask, if it were a 24 year old male teacher having sex with a 14 year old female student, would he get off with no jail time? I think not. As if that's not bad enough, then I read, "To place an attractive young woman in that kind of hell hole is like putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions." Sorry, but I'm pissed off beyond words... I'm getting a beer. Nobody screw with me... JeffShhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #2 November 22, 2005 It pisses me off too, but I can't say that I'm suprised. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #3 November 22, 2005 I hope this case is cited as precedent the next time some male teacher does somebody's daughter (hopefully a judge's daughter). NO double standard! Adults fucking kids is wrong. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 November 22, 2005 Absolute Bullshit!! I can only hope this sparks an outrage from the community and this judge and DA are impeached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #5 November 22, 2005 Its only because she is a beutiful women with blond hair and they were concern see would be a piece of meet in prison. No I'm not sure if thats why, but does anyone know if she was required to register as a Sex Offender. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 November 22, 2005 QuoteIts only because she is a beutiful women with blond hair and they were concern see would be a piece of meet in prison. No I'm not sure if thats why, but does anyone know if she was required to register as a Sex Offender. Yes, according to the article she has to register as a sex offender. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #7 November 22, 2005 QuoteIts only because she is a beutiful women with blond hair and they were concern see would be a piece of meet in prison. Holy Moses, your English really is not that easy to understand... At least for an alien like me. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #8 November 22, 2005 Man, how stupid must this broad's husband feel? And on top of that, she is pretty good lookin'... What gives? And where were teachers like this when I was 14?"I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #9 November 22, 2005 According to the article, yes, she'll have to register as a sex offender and lose her teaching certificate, and she won't be allowed around children. Plus 3 years house arrest and 7 years probation. Its not jail time (which she deserves) but apparantly the family of the victim didn't want a lengthy trial and the defense was planning an insanity plea which may have worked on a sympathetic jury. (Who knows?) My guess is the prosecution saw the plea bargain as a "bird in the hand" and the family was OK with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #10 November 22, 2005 QuoteMan, how stupid must this broad's husband feel? And on top of that, she is pretty good lookin'... What gives? And where were teachers like this when I was 14? And this attitude is most likely WHY there was a plea bargain! Chances are a jury of 12 would include at least a few men who were once horny 14 year old boys, men who STILL get a boner at the sight of a cute blonde! If they could have been guaranteed a jury of 12 mothers, they might have gone to trial! Bottom line, she was an adult in a position of authority and he was a child. It was rape no matter how willing he was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #11 November 22, 2005 QuoteAccording to the article, yes, she'll have to register as a sex offender and lose her teaching certificate, and she won't be allowed around children. Plus 3 years house arrest and 7 years probation. Its not jail time (which she deserves) but apparantly the family of the victim didn't want a lengthy trial and the defense was planning an insanity plea which may have worked on a sympathetic jury. (Who knows?) My guess is the prosecution saw the plea bargain as a "bird in the hand" and the family was OK with it. If this was a male offender in the exact situation, the DA would be sending him to prison knowing that he'd be killed by another inmate within a year. Gotta love the double-standard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #12 November 22, 2005 QuoteQuoteMan, how stupid must this broad's husband feel? And on top of that, she is pretty good lookin'... What gives? And where were teachers like this when I was 14? And this attitude is most likely WHY there was a plea bargain! Chances are a jury of 12 would include at least a few men who were once horny 14 year old boys, men who STILL get a boner at the sight of a cute blonde! If they could have been guaranteed a jury of 12 mothers, they might have gone to trial! Bottom line, she was an adult in a position of authority and he was a child. It was rape no matter how willing he was. Though I agree with you completely, you have to admit (from a practical standpoint) it is a sliding scale."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #13 November 22, 2005 Right, but your statement proved why that scale exists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #14 November 22, 2005 QuoteRight, but your statement proved why that scale exists. Absolutely. Cliches are cliches for a reason."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #15 November 22, 2005 QuoteIts only because she is a beutiful women with blond hair and they were concern see would be a piece of meet in prison. It would take only minutes to shave her head bald and solve the problem Then she could go where she belongs - jail ."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 November 22, 2005 Good money says she won't complete her probation without getting caught with her hand in some boy's pants again. She likes relationships where she is totally in charge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TypicalFish 0 #17 November 22, 2005 QuoteGood money says she won't complete her probation without getting caught with her hand in some boy's pants again. She likes relationships where she is totally in charge. Yeah, I would put the over/under at about 3 months... 5-6 weeks if she's caught with the same kid..."I gargle no man's balls..." ussfpa on SOCNET Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #18 November 22, 2005 That's what happened with Mary Kay LaTourneau (sp?). IIRC, they caught her in the back seat of a car with the same kid and sent her to jail pregnant with his child. I think he married her as soon as he turned 18 or she got out of jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #19 November 22, 2005 QuoteBottom line, she was an adult in a position of authority and he was a child. It was rape no matter how willing he was. There was a thread in SC a while ago about this very same subject when this incident first came to light. I am having a hard time considering it rape for the guy was not coerced and no damage to the kid was done. Statutory rape, sure. The teacher should loose all teaching privileges. Evenmore, the teacher should face the same penalty a man would had the roles been reversed. (taking into consideration the willingness of the "victim"). All this poor boy thing seems crap to me when taking into account that he was having sex with her (or viceversa) while his elder cousin was driving them around. If it was rape, shouldn´t we take his cousin as an acomplice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #20 November 22, 2005 I *think* the cousin was 15 at the time, so I doubt they would prosecute him. They could charge her with another count of "lewd behaviour" though. And there is a reason we have a legal age for consent in this country. Legally, it was rape. Besides, how do you know no damage was done to him? How do you define or determine damage? And how do you know no coercion was involved? Coercion can be subtle especially when you are dealing with children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #21 November 22, 2005 Quote...... men who STILL get a boner at the sight of a cute blonde! . Can't be many of them around, oh no.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #22 November 23, 2005 i agree....... i wish i had a teacher like that when i was 14 ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #23 November 23, 2005 QuoteI am having a hard time considering it rape for the guy was not coerced and no damage to the kid was done. That's what my first reaction is too--boys can handle it. We're socialized to think of boys as being tough from birth. We don't coddle them. They don't have feelings. Nothing tender about boys. And then, when they grow to be men, we complain about what we've made of them. Children are children, regardless of sex. A fourteen year old boy may be more interested in sex than a fourteen year old girl, but he's probably even less prepared to handle it emotionally. I think it was Tigra who said something about control. And that's exactly what it's about when an adult, male or female, takes advantage of a child. The damage done is incalculable, and we pay for it when such children grow up and make their way in the world. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #24 November 23, 2005 Personally I think the little fucker that squealed on her should get the jail time. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #25 November 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteI am having a hard time considering it rape for the guy was not coerced and no damage to the kid was done. That's what my first reaction is too--boys can handle it. We're socialized to think of boys as being tough from birth. We don't coddle them. They don't have feelings. Nothing tender about boys. And then, when they grow to be men, we complain about what we've made of them. Children are children, regardless of sex. A fourteen year old boy may be more interested in sex than a fourteen year old girl, but he's probably even less prepared to handle it emotionally. I think it was Tigra who said something about control. And that's exactly what it's about when an adult, male or female, takes advantage of a child. The damage done is incalculable, and we pay for it when such children grow up and make their way in the world. rl Well said! I read the responses of some of the men here and see validation of this view. Children should be allowed to be children and not have adults take advantage of them.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites