The mother f-er has his own people against him now... Way to go brain wizard!!!!!

[rhino 0]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176037,00.html

[Mike111 0]

Terrorists are so fundamental sometimes they don't even think of the potential allies they could lose when they spurt out such garbage

[rhino 0]

Al Queda is turning it's own people against it..

[shropshire 0]

I'm sure that the irony in the title wasn't lost ...
Before I opened the link, I was trying to guess the subject...... Al Q or Bush..... 50/50 was the odds that I gave my self

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Al Queda is turning it's own people against it..

thats a good thing

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Quote from the news story: "He underlined that Al Qaeda in Iraq is not targeting fellow Muslims."

Yeah, so I guess the 75 people they murdered in two mosques today with suicide bombs were a mistake also.

The bombers must have mistaken the locations for McDonalds.

What's it going to take to get these Iraqiis so pissed-off at these bombers that they take matters into their own hands?

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>What's it going to take to get these Iraqiis so pissed-off . . .

A great many are. Some are directing their ire towards Al Qaeda, some towards the occupiers. If I were you I would not wish for more hatred. It won't be just Al Qaeda operatives that pay the price for fueling such hate.

[shropshire 0]

Lets keep the parallels running....

Yeah, so I guess the XXXX people killed in the bombing of Iraq before, during and after the invasion.. were a mistake also.......

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>What's it going to take to get these Iraqiis so pissed-off . . .

A great many are. Some are directing their ire towards Al Qaeda, some towards the occupiers. If I were you I would not wish for more hatred. It won't be just Al Qaeda operatives that pay the price for fueling such hate.

This isn't wishing for more hate. The more the Iraqi's become upset with AQ, the more they will be willing to step forward and help the Iraqi Govt. find them.

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Lets keep the parallels running....

Yeah, so I guess the XXXX people killed in the bombing of Iraq before, during and after the invasion.. were a mistake also...

Oh, well never mind then - I guess it's okay to blow up religious people in places of worship.

[shropshire 0]

No, I didn't say or even remotely imply that.
Just trying to remember that BOTH sides have killed innocent people.
BOTH are wrong.

Regards,

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Just trying to remember that BOTH sides have killed innocent people. BOTH are wrong.

I believe there is a stark difference in motives between having that happen accidentally, and from doing it with intentional premeditation. The former is unfortunate, but the latter is heinous and inexcusable.

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Just trying to remember that BOTH sides have killed innocent people. BOTH are wrong.

I believe there is a stark difference in motives between having that happen accidentally, and from doing it with intentional premeditation. The former is unfortunate, but the latter is heinous and inexcusable.

Try explaining that to the mother of a dead child. It doesn't matter to her what the intent was: her baby will never smile back at her again.

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I believe there is a stark difference in motives between having that happen accidentally, and from doing it with intentional premeditation. The former is unfortunate, but the latter is heinous and inexcusable.
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Try explaining that to the mother of a dead child. It doesn't matter to her what the intent was: her baby will never smile back at her again.

Boy, just try explaining it to the average lib on these boards...do they walk around as emotionally high-strung as a mother of a dead child all day or just when talking about the evil U.S. military?

Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
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Boy, just try explaining it to the average lib on these boards...do they walk around as emotionally high-strung as a mother of a dead child all day or just when talking about the evil U.S. military?

Just what are you talking about again? I lost your point somewhere between Boy and military...

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Try explaining that to the mother of a dead child.

That line has been used before on these forums, and it remains a lump of lame shit. It fails to address the point, which is the FACT that terrorists specifically target and kill civilians (including kids), and our military doesn't.

Try telling a mother her child was accidently run over by a school bus -- sheesh.

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Just what are you talking about again? I lost your point somewhere between Boy and military...

Ok, I guess not everyone is cut out for subtleties without a million emoticons plastered all over a post. A mother who just lost her child would obviously not be in a rational state of mind and would be ruled by her emotions. Therefore, she would not be receptive to the differences that JohnRich pointed out. You, Sudsy, seem to be equally resistant to recognizing the difference between the two situations, prefering instead to focus on the emotional aspect of a dead child rather than the more mental task of realizing there is a difference in the motives. Pretty lame, I'd say.

Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176037,00.html

This is nothing new. It's been happening for a long time, but it's unusual for anyone outside the Middle East in general and Iraq in particular to notice.

This got attention because it's the most heinous they've been up until now, so much so that the Zowie has to make a statement like this to defend it.

But how does one defend or justify such cowardice and brutality? Even when they do things like this, the "Arab Street" tries to "Blame Israel", as if killing dozens of people is somehow made okay.

This is typical Arab nuttiness. It's always somebody else's (read: US or Israel) fault, but this time, people realize who is really to blame, and this time, they're not ashamed or afraid to admit it.

Please see "Why Al Qaeda Has Lost Its War in Iraq" on Jim Dunnigan's Strategy Page, and take note of the date that story was published: 25 Sept 2004.

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That line has been used before on these forums, and it remains a lump of lame shit. It fails to address the point, which is the FACT that terrorists specifically target and kill civilians (including kids), and our military doesn't.[/reply

nah the U.S. military just kills its own allies and soldiers as well as civillians. just as long as lockheeed martin and the likes are in full production who cares who dies? right? we need that oil.

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[captain1 0]

Yes, same goes for Saudi Arabia with Osama Bin Ladin.

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So ironic. Some of the earliest recordings of society, law , & order began in Iraq. Now it is in such disarray, but this is nothing new.

[shropshire 0]

I'm sorry, I cannt agree. There is nothing accidental about our invasion of Iraq and thus the consequences. Shock and Awe is what they called it and it was certainly shocking. If one carries out a massive bombardment of downtown, metroplotian area it MUST come as no surprise that innocent peoples are going to get killed. If it's no surprise and one still carries on with the plan, then it's NOT Accidental it's deliberate.

Regards,

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Easy lover
She'll get a hold on you, believe it
Like no other
Before you know it you'll be on your knees

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If one carries out a massive bombardment of downtown, metroplotian area it MUST come as no surprise that innocent peoples are going to get killed.

The US has spent many billions of dollars on smart bomb technology in the last 40 years. In Iraq, that technology has been used to better target the enemy and avoid collaterals.

Carpet bombing is reserved for areas known not to contain civilians.

So your "massive bombardment of downtown" comment paints a false image, but I can see how it makes your need to find equity between terrorists and US forces easier. Enjoy.

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What's it going to take to get these Iraqiis so pissed-off at these bombers that they take matters into their own hands?

That's the sole key to the US withdrawing from Iraq. If the population, outside of the Iraqi police/military, start just assasinating these fuckers, bombing their hideouts, etc, then we can start withdrawing and after a while maybe the terrorists will too (depending on the effectiveness of the civilian campaign against them). Underground groups is what's needed in Iraq.