kallend 2,175 #1 November 17, 2005 In a speech today Dick Cheney said: "What we're hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war," So let's look at Cheney's record with the truth: "The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Cheney to John Edwards, October 6, 2004 Cheney had met Edwards at least three times before: at a prayer breakfast in 2001, at Elizabeth Dole's swearing-in ceremony in 2003, and backstage at Meet the Press. Ooops! "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..." Cheney, October 6, 2004 "[Iraq is] the geographical base of the terrorists who had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9-11." Cheney, Sept 2003 Oooops. "We’ve never let up on Osama bin Laden from day one." Cheney, Vice Presidential Debate, 10/5/04 "I just don’t spend that much time on him really, to be honest with you. I…I truly am not that concerned about him." G. Bush, Cheney's boss, 3/13/02 Oooops. BORGER: "Well, let's get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him, as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, 'pretty well confirmed.'" CHENEY: “No, I never said that.” - CNBC interview, 6/20/04 “It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” Cheney, 12/9/01 Oooops Josef Goebbels could have learned a thing or two from Cheney about the big lie.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #2 November 17, 2005 read this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #3 November 17, 2005 Quotepoliticians.... lie... often... And spin things to their own end. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 November 17, 2005 QuoteIn a speech today Dick Cheney said: "What we're hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war," So let's look at Cheney's record with the truth: "The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Cheney to John Edwards, October 6, 2004 Cheney had met Edwards at least three times before: at a prayer breakfast in 2001, at Elizabeth Dole's swearing-in ceremony in 2003, and backstage at Meet the Press. Did Cheney actually meet Edwards and have a conversation with him or did they just shake hands and move on. If the later I can understand it because I have people come up to me all the time and say we've met. I'm generally nice and don't tell them I have no clue who they are. Ooops! "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..." Cheney, October 6, 2004 "[Iraq is] the geographical base of the terrorists who had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9-11." Cheney, Sept 2003 This is obviously taken out of context as he is talking about the Government of Iraq in the first quote and geographic Iraq in the second. Oooops. "We’ve never let up on Osama bin Laden from day one." Cheney, Vice Presidential Debate, 10/5/04 "I just don’t spend that much time on him really, to be honest with you. I…I truly am not that concerned about him." G. Bush, Cheney's boss, 3/13/02 Oooops. Another misleading example. Saying you aren't that concerned doesn't equate to a reduced effort to find him. BORGER: "Well, let's get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him, as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, 'pretty well confirmed.'" CHENEY: “No, I never said that.” - CNBC interview, 6/20/04 “It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” Cheney, 12/9/01 Oooops You cut and pasted the first quote to the point that I have no idea what he's talking about, but if it's a misleading as the rest of your post, then it's probably not worthy anyway. QuoteJosef Goebbels could have learned a thing or two from Cheney about the big lie. Apparently you did Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #5 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Oh the humanity - say it ain't so! Actually, that's a big improvement over "You can't prove he lied", maybe the message is finally getting across.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #6 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Oh the humanity - say it ain't so! Actually, that's a big improvement over "You can't prove he lied", maybe the message is finally getting across. Not really. Your examples pale in comparison to the thrashing that is coming from Senators Reid, Clinton, Kerry and Kennedy. Additionally, many of these lashings are coming while President Bush is abroad. This is a diplomatic "no-no" and is something that only recently began by this shrill, the majority of which is from the democrats.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #7 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteIn a speech today Dick Cheney said: "What we're hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war," So let's look at Cheney's record with the truth: "The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Cheney to John Edwards, October 6, 2004 Cheney had met Edwards at least three times before: at a prayer breakfast in 2001, at Elizabeth Dole's swearing-in ceremony in 2003, and backstage at Meet the Press. Did Cheney actually meet Edwards and have a conversation with him or did they just shake hands and move on. If the later I can understand it because I have people come up to me all the time and say we've met. I'm generally nice and don't tell them I have no clue who they are. Lame attempt to apologize for a liar "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..." Cheney, October 6, 2004 "[Iraq is] the geographical base of the terrorists who had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9-11." Cheney, Sept 2003 This is obviously taken out of context as he is talking about the Government of Iraq in the first quote and geographic Iraq in the second. Now your really reaching. Even lamer. "We’ve never let up on Osama bin Laden from day one." Cheney, Vice Presidential Debate, 10/5/04 "I just don’t spend that much time on him really, to be honest with you. I…I truly am not that concerned about him." G. Bush, Cheney's boss, 3/13/02 Oooops. Another misleading example. Saying you aren't that concerned doesn't equate to a reduced effort to find him. BORGER: "Well, let's get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him, as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, 'pretty well confirmed.'" CHENEY: “No, I never said that.” - CNBC interview, 6/20/04 “It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” Cheney, 12/9/01 Oooops You cut and pasted the first quote to the point that I have no idea what he's talking about, but if it's a misleading as the rest of your post, then it's probably not worthy anyway. Maybe this will help you understand: Asked about the alleged visit of Atta to Prague by Tim Russert on Meet the Press, 9/8/2002, Cheney said: "It's credible, but, you know, I think the way to put it would be it's unconfirmed at this point." So which was it, confirmed or unconfirmed, and why did he later deny ever having said it was confirmed? ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #8 November 18, 2005 Here's more of the transcript of the Borger interview: BORGER: Well, let’s get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, “pretty well confirmed” CHENEY: No, I never said that. BORGER: OK. CHENEY: I never said that. BORGER: I think that is— CHENEY: Absolutely not. What I said was the Czech intelligence service reported after 9/11 that Atta had been in Prague on April 9 of 2001, where he allegedly met with an Iraqi intelligence official. We have never been able to confirm that nor have we been able to knock it down, we just don't know Compare that to his 2001 statement (posted previously) where he said "“It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” A statement he then denied to Borger. Why do you feel the need to apologize and make excuses for these liars?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #9 November 18, 2005 >Your examples pale in comparison . . . So, in summary, Cheney lied, but other people lied more? Fair enough, and a fine example of the two-party "your guy sucks more" line of thinking. >This is a diplomatic "no-no" . . . To continue in "the other side is worse" thing, it's a bigger diplomatic no-no to use Veteran's Day to attack your political opponents. And Bush is using this trip as well to attack democrats, so he should not expect them to show more restraint than he does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #10 November 18, 2005 QuoteTo continue in "the other side is worse" thing, it's a bigger diplomatic no-no to use Veteran's Day to attack your political opponents. And Bush is using this trip as well to attack democrats, so he should not expect them to show more restraint than he does. As long as the political bickering is done on our own soil, I could care less about what day it is. You obviously buy Sen. Reid's comments about the Veteran's Day speech then. When the President is over seas, the sh*t that's going on now is put on pause, period. The Republicans, as much as they fired onto President Clinton's plate, didn't do this. No one did it to President G.H.W. Bush, or President Reagan, or Carter or Ford or Nixon or Johnson or Kennedy...ad infinitum. It simply isn't done.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #11 November 18, 2005 Prof: Have you noticed the irony of the title "It takes one to know one." I mean, you are saying you know one, which seems to me that you are saying you are one. I've always hated that cliche for that very reason... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #12 November 18, 2005 QuoteProf: Have you noticed the irony of the title "It takes one to know one." I mean, you are saying you know one, which seems to me that you are saying you are one. I've always hated that cliche for that very reason... When I send 2,000 men to their deaths based on lies, feel free to criticize me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #13 November 18, 2005 >You obviously buy Sen. Reid's comments about the Veteran's >Day speech then. Haven't heard them. If he says that he thinks it's inappropriate to use a speech to veterans on veteran's day to make political points, I tend to agree. >When the President is over seas, the sh*t that's going on now is >put on pause, period. Hmm. I guess Bush didn't get that memo. He is continuing to bash democrats during his trip. Would be a bit hypocritical to announce that his political opponents cannot respond, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #14 November 18, 2005 QuoteWhen I send 2,000 men to their deaths based on lies, feel free to criticize me. ... I imagine I'll be waiting awhile, professor... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #15 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #16 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Oh Walt, I hate to break it to you but there are certain people that regularly post here who are clearly in denial that anyone in the current administration has ever lied about anything. It's just miscalculation and bad intel, and besides, Clinton got a BJ and Hillary's a bitch.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #17 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #18 November 18, 2005 Quote Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yes, bore you so much that you actually PARSED kallend's post to respond to each of Cheney's comments individually.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #19 November 18, 2005 "And spin things to their own end" More spin than a badly packed stilletto.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #20 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuote Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yes, bore you so much that you actually PARSED kallend's post to respond to each of Cheney's comments individually. Yeah, but I was already bored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #21 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #22 November 18, 2005 QuoteYet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... I'm pretty sure then, that I'm not one of them. Because I can't even imagine what you describe as happening, nor how I might react to it. But, I don't know that I would log on to dz.com and post in SC....So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #23 November 18, 2005 ...... and besides, Clinton got a BJ and Hillary's a bitch. *** Oh YEAH.... Well............. At least the Republican Texan doesn't pick up his dog by the ears like Democratic Texan did! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #24 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteYet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... I'm pretty sure then, that I'm not one of them. 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kallend 2,175 #5 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Oh the humanity - say it ain't so! Actually, that's a big improvement over "You can't prove he lied", maybe the message is finally getting across.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #6 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Oh the humanity - say it ain't so! Actually, that's a big improvement over "You can't prove he lied", maybe the message is finally getting across. Not really. Your examples pale in comparison to the thrashing that is coming from Senators Reid, Clinton, Kerry and Kennedy. Additionally, many of these lashings are coming while President Bush is abroad. This is a diplomatic "no-no" and is something that only recently began by this shrill, the majority of which is from the democrats.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #7 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteIn a speech today Dick Cheney said: "What we're hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war," So let's look at Cheney's record with the truth: "The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight." Cheney to John Edwards, October 6, 2004 Cheney had met Edwards at least three times before: at a prayer breakfast in 2001, at Elizabeth Dole's swearing-in ceremony in 2003, and backstage at Meet the Press. Did Cheney actually meet Edwards and have a conversation with him or did they just shake hands and move on. If the later I can understand it because I have people come up to me all the time and say we've met. I'm generally nice and don't tell them I have no clue who they are. Lame attempt to apologize for a liar "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..." Cheney, October 6, 2004 "[Iraq is] the geographical base of the terrorists who had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9-11." Cheney, Sept 2003 This is obviously taken out of context as he is talking about the Government of Iraq in the first quote and geographic Iraq in the second. Now your really reaching. Even lamer. "We’ve never let up on Osama bin Laden from day one." Cheney, Vice Presidential Debate, 10/5/04 "I just don’t spend that much time on him really, to be honest with you. I…I truly am not that concerned about him." G. Bush, Cheney's boss, 3/13/02 Oooops. Another misleading example. Saying you aren't that concerned doesn't equate to a reduced effort to find him. BORGER: "Well, let's get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him, as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, 'pretty well confirmed.'" CHENEY: “No, I never said that.” - CNBC interview, 6/20/04 “It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” Cheney, 12/9/01 Oooops You cut and pasted the first quote to the point that I have no idea what he's talking about, but if it's a misleading as the rest of your post, then it's probably not worthy anyway. Maybe this will help you understand: Asked about the alleged visit of Atta to Prague by Tim Russert on Meet the Press, 9/8/2002, Cheney said: "It's credible, but, you know, I think the way to put it would be it's unconfirmed at this point." So which was it, confirmed or unconfirmed, and why did he later deny ever having said it was confirmed? ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #8 November 18, 2005 Here's more of the transcript of the Borger interview: BORGER: Well, let’s get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, “pretty well confirmed” CHENEY: No, I never said that. BORGER: OK. CHENEY: I never said that. BORGER: I think that is— CHENEY: Absolutely not. What I said was the Czech intelligence service reported after 9/11 that Atta had been in Prague on April 9 of 2001, where he allegedly met with an Iraqi intelligence official. We have never been able to confirm that nor have we been able to knock it down, we just don't know Compare that to his 2001 statement (posted previously) where he said "“It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” A statement he then denied to Borger. Why do you feel the need to apologize and make excuses for these liars?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #9 November 18, 2005 >Your examples pale in comparison . . . So, in summary, Cheney lied, but other people lied more? Fair enough, and a fine example of the two-party "your guy sucks more" line of thinking. >This is a diplomatic "no-no" . . . To continue in "the other side is worse" thing, it's a bigger diplomatic no-no to use Veteran's Day to attack your political opponents. And Bush is using this trip as well to attack democrats, so he should not expect them to show more restraint than he does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #10 November 18, 2005 QuoteTo continue in "the other side is worse" thing, it's a bigger diplomatic no-no to use Veteran's Day to attack your political opponents. And Bush is using this trip as well to attack democrats, so he should not expect them to show more restraint than he does. As long as the political bickering is done on our own soil, I could care less about what day it is. You obviously buy Sen. Reid's comments about the Veteran's Day speech then. When the President is over seas, the sh*t that's going on now is put on pause, period. The Republicans, as much as they fired onto President Clinton's plate, didn't do this. No one did it to President G.H.W. Bush, or President Reagan, or Carter or Ford or Nixon or Johnson or Kennedy...ad infinitum. It simply isn't done.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #11 November 18, 2005 Prof: Have you noticed the irony of the title "It takes one to know one." I mean, you are saying you know one, which seems to me that you are saying you are one. I've always hated that cliche for that very reason... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #12 November 18, 2005 QuoteProf: Have you noticed the irony of the title "It takes one to know one." I mean, you are saying you know one, which seems to me that you are saying you are one. I've always hated that cliche for that very reason... When I send 2,000 men to their deaths based on lies, feel free to criticize me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #13 November 18, 2005 >You obviously buy Sen. Reid's comments about the Veteran's >Day speech then. Haven't heard them. If he says that he thinks it's inappropriate to use a speech to veterans on veteran's day to make political points, I tend to agree. >When the President is over seas, the sh*t that's going on now is >put on pause, period. Hmm. I guess Bush didn't get that memo. He is continuing to bash democrats during his trip. Would be a bit hypocritical to announce that his political opponents cannot respond, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #14 November 18, 2005 QuoteWhen I send 2,000 men to their deaths based on lies, feel free to criticize me. ... I imagine I'll be waiting awhile, professor... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #15 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #16 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Oh Walt, I hate to break it to you but there are certain people that regularly post here who are clearly in denial that anyone in the current administration has ever lied about anything. It's just miscalculation and bad intel, and besides, Clinton got a BJ and Hillary's a bitch.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #17 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #18 November 18, 2005 Quote Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yes, bore you so much that you actually PARSED kallend's post to respond to each of Cheney's comments individually.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nacmacfeegle 0 #19 November 18, 2005 "And spin things to their own end" More spin than a badly packed stilletto.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #20 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuote Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yes, bore you so much that you actually PARSED kallend's post to respond to each of Cheney's comments individually. Yeah, but I was already bored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #21 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #22 November 18, 2005 QuoteYet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... I'm pretty sure then, that I'm not one of them. Because I can't even imagine what you describe as happening, nor how I might react to it. But, I don't know that I would log on to dz.com and post in SC....So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #23 November 18, 2005 ...... and besides, Clinton got a BJ and Hillary's a bitch. *** Oh YEAH.... Well............. At least the Republican Texan doesn't pick up his dog by the ears like Democratic Texan did! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #24 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteYet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... I'm pretty sure then, that I'm not one of them. Because I can't even imagine what you describe as happening, nor how I might react to it. But, I don't know that I would log on to dz.com and post in SC.... Don't you love the ones who pop in here occasionally, never post more than one sentence and it's always pretty descriptive of what they day dream about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #25 November 18, 2005 QuoteDon't you love the ones who pop in here occasionally, never post more than one sentence and it's always pretty descriptive of what they day dream about? You know? 4-way is pretty cool. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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kallend 2,175 #8 November 18, 2005 Here's more of the transcript of the Borger interview: BORGER: Well, let’s get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, “pretty well confirmed” CHENEY: No, I never said that. BORGER: OK. CHENEY: I never said that. BORGER: I think that is— CHENEY: Absolutely not. What I said was the Czech intelligence service reported after 9/11 that Atta had been in Prague on April 9 of 2001, where he allegedly met with an Iraqi intelligence official. We have never been able to confirm that nor have we been able to knock it down, we just don't know Compare that to his 2001 statement (posted previously) where he said "“It's been pretty well confirmed that [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.” A statement he then denied to Borger. Why do you feel the need to apologize and make excuses for these liars?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #9 November 18, 2005 >Your examples pale in comparison . . . So, in summary, Cheney lied, but other people lied more? Fair enough, and a fine example of the two-party "your guy sucks more" line of thinking. >This is a diplomatic "no-no" . . . To continue in "the other side is worse" thing, it's a bigger diplomatic no-no to use Veteran's Day to attack your political opponents. And Bush is using this trip as well to attack democrats, so he should not expect them to show more restraint than he does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #10 November 18, 2005 QuoteTo continue in "the other side is worse" thing, it's a bigger diplomatic no-no to use Veteran's Day to attack your political opponents. And Bush is using this trip as well to attack democrats, so he should not expect them to show more restraint than he does. As long as the political bickering is done on our own soil, I could care less about what day it is. You obviously buy Sen. Reid's comments about the Veteran's Day speech then. When the President is over seas, the sh*t that's going on now is put on pause, period. The Republicans, as much as they fired onto President Clinton's plate, didn't do this. No one did it to President G.H.W. Bush, or President Reagan, or Carter or Ford or Nixon or Johnson or Kennedy...ad infinitum. It simply isn't done.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 November 18, 2005 Prof: Have you noticed the irony of the title "It takes one to know one." I mean, you are saying you know one, which seems to me that you are saying you are one. I've always hated that cliche for that very reason... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #12 November 18, 2005 QuoteProf: Have you noticed the irony of the title "It takes one to know one." I mean, you are saying you know one, which seems to me that you are saying you are one. I've always hated that cliche for that very reason... When I send 2,000 men to their deaths based on lies, feel free to criticize me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #13 November 18, 2005 >You obviously buy Sen. Reid's comments about the Veteran's >Day speech then. Haven't heard them. If he says that he thinks it's inappropriate to use a speech to veterans on veteran's day to make political points, I tend to agree. >When the President is over seas, the sh*t that's going on now is >put on pause, period. Hmm. I guess Bush didn't get that memo. He is continuing to bash democrats during his trip. Would be a bit hypocritical to announce that his political opponents cannot respond, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 November 18, 2005 QuoteWhen I send 2,000 men to their deaths based on lies, feel free to criticize me. ... I imagine I'll be waiting awhile, professor... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #15 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #16 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Oh Walt, I hate to break it to you but there are certain people that regularly post here who are clearly in denial that anyone in the current administration has ever lied about anything. It's just miscalculation and bad intel, and besides, Clinton got a BJ and Hillary's a bitch.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #17 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #18 November 18, 2005 Quote Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yes, bore you so much that you actually PARSED kallend's post to respond to each of Cheney's comments individually.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #19 November 18, 2005 "And spin things to their own end" More spin than a badly packed stilletto.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #20 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuote Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yes, bore you so much that you actually PARSED kallend's post to respond to each of Cheney's comments individually. Yeah, but I was already bored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #21 November 18, 2005 Quoteread this slowly john... politicians.... lie... often... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ya' know, I've suspected that for a really long time, but you think it's actually TRUE?!!! Walt -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not only is it true, but there are certain people who post here regularly who don't think anyone else knows it. So they constantly bore us all with a litany of posts to let us know that they know it. Yet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #22 November 18, 2005 QuoteYet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... I'm pretty sure then, that I'm not one of them. Because I can't even imagine what you describe as happening, nor how I might react to it. But, I don't know that I would log on to dz.com and post in SC....So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #23 November 18, 2005 ...... and besides, Clinton got a BJ and Hillary's a bitch. *** Oh YEAH.... Well............. At least the Republican Texan doesn't pick up his dog by the ears like Democratic Texan did! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #24 November 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteYet when some one says: Bush lied......some of the regulars here react like you just fucked their mother up the ass in front of them...... I'm pretty sure then, that I'm not one of them. Because I can't even imagine what you describe as happening, nor how I might react to it. But, I don't know that I would log on to dz.com and post in SC.... Don't you love the ones who pop in here occasionally, never post more than one sentence and it's always pretty descriptive of what they day dream about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #25 November 18, 2005 QuoteDon't you love the ones who pop in here occasionally, never post more than one sentence and it's always pretty descriptive of what they day dream about? You know? 4-way is pretty cool. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
