markd_nscr986 0 #1 November 11, 2005 Gawd,that man is funny! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10004302/ Go get em Bill!Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 November 11, 2005 the Chronicle's response: San Franciscans might be offended by this invitation, or perhaps even threatened, if more of them visited Coit Tower. On a cool gray Thursday afternoon, the San Francisco landmark was filled, as usual, with tourists from Ohio, Texas and other states where TV's "The O'Reilly Factor" and its syndicated radio companion, "The Radio Factor," pull better ratings than in San Francisco. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 November 11, 2005 I dont think recruiters should be allowed into any schools. HOw many people here... WHO HAVE SERVED got the truth and the WHOLE truth from a recruiter... I certainly did not. I would make thier jobs obsolete. I think EVERYONE who wants to be a citizen of this country SHOULD serve at least 2 years. You want to vote... or you want to be a part of the political process you can serve your country. If the military suits you then go on and make a carreer of it if you wish.. There should be no OCS... If you have not started as a raw recruit and if you cant make it up thru the ranks then you should not be leading others. Same thing goes for the acadamies of all branches. This way we dont end up with a bunch of LAME ASS ChickenHawks like a WHOLE lot of these talk show hosts holding themselves out to be patriots.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 November 11, 2005 QuoteI dont think recruiters should be allowed into any schools. ... I think EVERYONE who wants to be a citizen of this country SHOULD serve at least 2 years. You want to vote... or you want to be a part of the political process you can serve your country. .... With your plan, you don't need recruiters. So that works. Citizenship contingient upon military service isn't a new idea, but the last time it was brought up on this forum you should have seen the outrage - it was kind of funny. "Hey, I contribute to society by ROCKIN' " (Rough quote from School of Rock) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #5 November 11, 2005 QuoteHOw many people here... WHO HAVE SERVED got the truth and the WHOLE truth from a recruiter... I certainly did not. And how many 17 and 18 year olds only hear what they want to? Having served, as a recruiter no less, I can say that there is as much not hearing the whole truth as there is not telling it, if not more... JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 November 11, 2005 I don't find it funny. I find it ironic that a man that enjoys spreading his opinion and force feeding upon the nation....has an issue with other people expressing their opinion. Being an American means you can hold a seperate opinion, express it and still be protected by everything this country offers. EVEN IF its a disentening opinion against this country. To think otherwise is....well, un-American. I listen to his show. I enjoy the large amount of fiction he spreads about. It makes me laugh. He reeks of self-importence (well, most personalities such as himself do). I also know that a man with this much money would launch a lawsuit against anyone that said the same about him. For a well educated man he is very ignorant. The sad part about this? Most of this is all in an attempt to play upon emotions and ignorance to get more people to listen to him, to get free press and to line his pockets._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #7 November 11, 2005 QuoteAnd how many 17 and 18 year olds only hear what they want to? Having served, as a recruiter no less, I can say that there is as much not hearing the whole truth as there is not telling it, if not more... Not all military recruiters are the same. Some have a passion for it and want to recruit only those that will better the ranks. Then there are some that will just do whatever it takes to make their quota._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #8 November 12, 2005 >I also know that a man with this much money would launch a >lawsuit against anyone that said the same about him. Yep. He recently filed a lawsuit against a woman who accused him of sexual harassement. The suit was for, in part, "emotional distress." Which is about as silly as Scooter Libby getting indignant because someone lied to him. >For a well educated man he is very ignorant. Oh, I think he's very smart. He does what he needs to do to make money. If he could make money sliming orphans, he'd do it. He is currently making more money pandering to the right wing. Like Limbaugh, Coulter, Franken et al, he is an expert at presenting a spin that people like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #9 November 12, 2005 QuoteI don't find it funny. I find it ironic that a man that enjoys spreading his opinion and force feeding upon the nation wrong, buzz, you do not have to tune in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #10 November 12, 2005 QuoteOh, I think he's very smart. He does what he needs to do to make money. If he could make money sliming orphans, he'd do it. He is currently making more money pandering to the right wing. Like Limbaugh, Coulter, Franken et al, he is an expert at presenting a spin that people like. Either a) you're one of the many people who doesn't actually watch O'Reilly's show but slams it anyway, or b), you watch the show, but from a perspective so far left you believe he's way to the right (reference your own disussion on this a few days ago). Either way, he's got the #1 cable news show, and FOX itself has more viewership than all other US cable news outlets combined. Meanwhile, old bastions of the left like CBS and the NYT are sinking out of sight, drowning in their own crap. I love it -- people are now free to choose where they get their news, and the pattern is clear. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 November 12, 2005 You consider that news? Thats whats wrong with TV today... his show gets passed off as ligimate news and not the opinion/editorial that it is. Whats next, Sesame Street will be considered news too? O'Reiliy makes no bones about how to the right he is, he doe'nt even claim to be moderate...Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #12 November 12, 2005 QuoteYou consider that news? Thats whats wrong with TV today... his show gets passed off as ligimate news and not the opinion/editorial that it is. Whats next, Sesame Street will be considered news too? Obviously, O'Reilly's show is not a news broadcast. He does not sit there and read the news -- other people do that at 15 minute intervals during his show. He hosts guests from ALL sides of the political spectrum, and interviews them. QuoteO'Reiliy makes no bones about how to the right he is, he doe'nt even claim to be moderate... He claims to be a moderate DAILY, and continually refutes allegations that he is not. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #13 November 12, 2005 Quote Either way, he's got the #1 cable news show, and FOX itself has more viewership than all other US cable news outlets combined. Meanwhile, old bastions of the left like CBS and the NYT are sinking out of sight, drowning in their own crap. I love it -- people are now free to choose where they get their news, and the pattern is clear. Wow, that is a silly statement. Millions of people also buy Brittney Spears and Backstreet Boys albums. And I would not even begin to call them "good" music. Popularity is not necessarily a function of quality. Remember Jerry Springer? All of Fox's viewership numbers means is that people today prefer their news more stylized and opinionated; they want MTV "news". News that they can be scared about. ANd it is not just Fox that does it. CNN has gotten into the scare method as well. Fox just does it better. News for the 24 hour networks is all about ratings. Hell, O' Reilly himself kept spouting how SIX MILLION people watch the Factor. Too bad he pulls about a 2.2 share instead. I guess math is not his strong suit. To busy boycotting France. And please note, that I am not defending CBS or the NYT, but to say that just because something is number one means it is correct is pattenly absurd. And just so you know, I HAVE watched the Factor. Good when I need to alternate laughter and anger.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #14 November 12, 2005 You might want to rethink that. I don't watch the man with any regularity, but I've heard him slam the living hell out of the Bush administration on several occasions that I've happened to be watching. O'Reilly himself has stated many times that he is not running a news show. FOX has brought such a nice new dimension to journalism. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #15 November 12, 2005 I had a recruiter tell me to lie during my initial application. When I answered a couple questions yes, he said, "You mean no" and checked off no on the form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #16 November 12, 2005 QuoteWow, that is a silly statement. Millions of people also buy Brittney Spears and Backstreet Boys albums. And I would not even begin to call them "good" music. Please identify the silly statement, that we're all free to choose our news sources now? I don't find it silly that we have lots of TV, Internet, and print sources of news today, compared to the limited number of left-leaning broadcast channels and newspapers we had 15 years ago and beyond. QuotePopularity is not necessarily a function of quality. Remember Jerry Springer? All of Fox's viewership numbers means is that people today prefer their news more stylized and opinionated; they want MTV "news". News that they can be scared about. ANd it is not just Fox that does it. CNN has gotten into the scare method as well. Fox just does it better. News for the 24 hour networks is all about ratings. I partially agree with you on the notion that FOX just does it better. Prettier hosts, busier screen backgrounds, coolio rockin' music between scenes . . . now that you mention it, it is kind of disgusting. But that's not the only reason for their popularity. Part of it is also the "fair and balanced" approach, which, however you slice it, is further to the right (towards the middle) than any national televison station before. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #17 November 12, 2005 I'll stipulate that much of the media does slant left. But you can't honestly believe that FOX and just about all talk radio is not right of middle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #18 November 12, 2005 Fox, MSNBC, CNBC, and even CNN all have few real jourlanists on their staff any more. Instead they have entertainers to attract market share. One of Fox's lead "journalists" used to host a show that was only one step above Jerry Springer. Are you calling Springer a journalist too? CNN has an anchor that got his start doing anchoring programs for middle school and high schoolers where the hardest storys he covered were about education standerds and college acceptence rates. They claim to do "in depth field reporting" but in reality they are not out there actually discovering the story and flushing out its details... they are entertainers that spin a story to fit the image of the week that their management wants. Just about the only true source of journalism still is print. And that is so full of opinions and agenda pushing that its even pandering towards the entertainment side now too. The WSJ is one of the few sources I'll still read for true reporting but then that stuff is so dry its hard to digest. When Entertainment Tonight pulls a higher share then a lot of the "news" programs out there I think that says a lot on the choices of the viewers as to if knowing who J-Lo is dating is more important then knowing the current level of tension between India and Pakastan is. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #19 November 12, 2005 Phree? Nail. Head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #20 November 12, 2005 QuoteI'll stipulate that much of the media does slant left. But you can't honestly believe that FOX and just about all talk radio is not right of middle. Most commercially viable talk radio is far right, I'm guessing because most liberals just don't like talk radio. Otherwise, it would be commercially viable. I wish Air America well. FOX is percieved as right of middle because the really big names (Hannity, O'Reilly) are identified as far right. However, they also have some middle of the road and leftie hosts, and there is no question that most shows offer up professional opinion from every side of the political spectrum. I believe it's as close to the middle as any other broadcast, maybe a little to the right overall. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 November 12, 2005 QuoteI believe it's as close to the middle as any other broadcast, maybe a little to the right overall. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thanks I needed that...that was friggin hilarous... DUDE you should try stand up comedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #22 November 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteI believe it's as close to the middle as any other broadcast, maybe a little to the right overall. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thanks I needed that...that was friggin hilarous... DUDE you should try stand up comedy. Thanks for the great argument, I would expect no less. Anybody got an opinion that's actually worth reading on which network is closer to the middle than FOX? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #23 November 12, 2005 Comedy Central? Network overall? CNN - Left but Headline News tends to be central, MSNBC- Left but swinging more central, CBS - Left, NBC - Left, ABC - Left, CNBC - Hard to tell since they focus on the market and blast both economics sides, Fox - Right but more to the central side then to the far right. CBC - FAR right. Name me one FOX anchor that supports right to chose? Supports gun control rights? We all know the ones that don't since they scream those view points from the roof tops.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 November 12, 2005 QuoteAnybody got an opinion that's actually worth reading on which network is closer to the middle than FOX? Why bother.. those on the right will not listen to it anyway.. if its not an APPROVED news resource.. you see it every day on this board....Just like our beloved El Presidente... he does not want to hear anything that does not agree with him... Sort of like the Politburo with Pravda or TASS used to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #25 November 12, 2005 QuoteComedy Central? Okay, you got me. QuoteName me one FOX anchor that supports right to chose? Supports gun control rights? We all know the ones that don't since they scream those view points from the roof tops. That's an easy one -- Alan Colmes. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
