ReBirth 0 #26 November 10, 2005 Quotewhy are you so happy having inaccurate views of Americans? Wouldn't you like to be seen as a bit more intelligent than that? I think he's answered that question in the negative with his actions on repeated occasions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missg8tordivr 0 #27 November 10, 2005 QuoteQuotewhy are you happy to conform to the sterotypes of Americans? wouldn't you like to be seen as a bit more intelligent than that? why are you so happy having inaccurate views of Americans? Wouldn't you like to be seen as a bit more intelligent than that? Amen Brother!*** F LORIDA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #28 November 10, 2005 Lets not ruin a reasonable thread eh. If its not you cup of tea, just ignore it. You probably do things other people dont approve of. (like skydiving for example) ON TOPIC: It would be pretty cool to let rip with some ridicuolously oversized, overpowered weaponary. I liked that one that sounded like a mingun and cut a nice Z into the scenery Zoro style Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #29 November 10, 2005 Quoteas the old saying goes...... Southern by birth, redneck by choise why are you happy to conform to the sterotypes of Americans? wouldn't you like to be seen as a bit more intelligent than that? Maybe just maybe some people are having such a good time living there lives the way they want to, to not give a flying fuck about what other people think.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #30 November 10, 2005 That was the whirring of a mini gun. Those things are just incredible! "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #31 November 10, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotewhy are you happy to conform to the sterotypes of Americans? wouldn't you like to be seen as a bit more intelligent than that? why are you so happy having inaccurate views of Americans? Wouldn't you like to be seen as a bit more intelligent than that? Hoorah! Go Astros!!! -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #32 November 10, 2005 Even in SC I can't issue a PA but the person who got my thread moved sucks eggs.... "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #33 November 10, 2005 QuoteGo Astros!!! ummm dude they lost..................bad...............like 4 game sweep badI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #34 November 10, 2005 QuoteEven in SC I can't issue a PA but the person who got my thread moved sucks eggs.... you mean beans on toast right?I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #35 November 10, 2005 QuoteQuoteGo Astros!!! ummm dude they lost..................bad...............like 4 game sweep bad First time there and I don't care it was still a WIN in my book to make it past all the obstacles they had to cover. Just to get there was accomplishment enough. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #36 November 10, 2005 QuoteQuoteGo Astros!!! ummm dude they lost..................bad...............like 4 game sweep bad arthur, young man, that was my conciliatory post to slappie, who no doubt was disappointed by his beloved astros' loss in the series. still, he has a lot to be proud of by their incredible journey to the championship. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #37 November 10, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteGo Astros!!! ummm dude they lost..................bad...............like 4 game sweep bad First time there and I don't care it was still a WIN in my book to make it past all the obstacles they had to cover. Just to get there was accomplishment enough. ahhhh a true fan *bows in respect*I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #38 November 10, 2005 ok, i'll be serious for a second..... My brother worked at the Royal Ordnance factory in Nottingham (before they closed it down 6 years ago) he served his engineering apprentiship there. he was one of 5 people in England who were qualified to make the gun barrels for the Challenger 2 tank. He used to tell me about some of the munitions that those tanks fired... quite impressive really. he moved off the tank barrels for the last 5 years of working there into the small arms section. He made the SA80 assault riffle. he said that when you could get them to work properly, they were an awsome weapon, but unfortunately they kept jamming. He also made pistols, i forget which ones (i'll ask him later tonight) under the factory, they had a firing range built... he took me down once (after he had got clearence from the MOD) and let me fire the SA80 on fully automatic mode... i'll admit, it was fucking great 600 rounds per minute i can see the attraction of shooting guns, but i still think that the average person dosn't need one next to his/her bed so they can shoot anybody who tries to rob them...why not use a baseball bat derek Jeter styleeeeee________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #39 November 10, 2005 Quotewhy not use a baseball bat derek Jeter styleeeeee Maybe the Yanks could have used a SA80 or two. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #40 November 10, 2005 Say what you want... it is all bullshit in my book. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #41 November 10, 2005 I wanna do that! "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #42 November 10, 2005 ok, I'll be serious back atcha... shooting a high performance gun IS a helluva lot of fun, isn't it! why I have a gun on my person while on my property -and by my bed when I'm asleep- instead of a baseball bat or a knife or any other weapon, is that the most common weapon used by an intruder here is... you guessed it, a gun. My having a gun helps to even the playing field. Also, with a gun, I have more of a chance of neutralizing a threat from a distance than trying to do so w/i arms reach. W/i arms reach, I can be overpowered by an intruder who is perhaps high on drugs, or who is stronger and more awake than I am. Also, I don't fancy the idea of sticking a knife in someone. I'd much rather make a little hole w/ a bullet. Also, if there is more than one intruder, I can conceivably take out more than one w/ a gun whereas w/ a bat or a knife, my chances of doing the same are more slim. I'm an excellent marksman. My father was a career cop, now retired, and he and I would go to the range all the time. My house has an alarm system that, when set at night, allows the kids to get up and pee w/o setting it off, but intruders from the outside trip the system. I also keep a "surefire" brand flashlight w/ my gun, which is powered to 120 lumens. It is positively blinding and helps reduce the likelihood that I would accidentally hurt an innocent person. thanks for the serious post. having an honest, logical discussion w/o either of us lowering into insults and rhetoric can have positive results. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #43 November 10, 2005 Quotehaving an honest, logical discussion w/o either of us lowering into insults and rhetoric can have positive results. Much less fun... "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #44 November 10, 2005 Quote why not use a baseball bat derek Jeter styleeeeee Why not? Obviously you've never had to defend yourself let alone with a baseball bat.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #45 November 10, 2005 Quoteok, I'll be serious back atcha... shooting a high performance gun IS a helluva lot of fun, isn't it! why I have a gun on my person while on my property -and by my bed when I'm asleep- instead of a baseball bat or a knife or any other weapon, is that the most common weapon used by an intruder here is... you guessed it, a gun. My having a gun helps to even the playing field. Also, with a gun, I have more of a chance of neutralizing a threat from a distance than trying to do so w/i arms reach. W/i arms reach, I can be overpowered by an intruder who is perhaps high on drugs, or who is stronger and more awake than I am. Also, I don't fancy the idea of sticking a knife in someone. I'd much rather make a little hole w/ a bullet. Also, if there is more than one intruder, I can conceivably take out more than one w/ a gun whereas w/ a bat or a knife, my chances of doing the same are more slim. I'm an excellent marksman. My father was a career cop, now retired, and he and I would go to the range all the time. My house has an alarm system that, when set at night, allows the kids to get up and pee w/o setting it off, but intruders from the outside trip the system. I also keep a "surefire" brand flashlight w/ my gun, which is powered to 120 lumens. It is positively blinding and helps reduce the likelihood that I would accidentally hurt an innocent person. thanks for the serious post. having an honest, logical discussion w/o either of us lowering into insults and rhetoric can have positive results. sorry about the insults, i don't mean to act a twat all the time.. just get carried away LOL yeah, it was the only time ever i've fired a gun, scared me to be honest. once i had fired it a couple of times, i got into it . i guess its a comment on the societies we live in, we don't think that an intruder is going to be armed (yeah, they may be, but we don't assume it) so to carry a gun next to your bed seems WAY over the top to us. Not that we could just go and buy one either... i seriously would not even have a clue where my nearest gunsmiths is, or how i go about applying for a licence to own one. if you think that any intruder in your house is probably carrying a gum themselves, then i can see why you'd have a gun... is it better to risk you or your loved ones getting shot, or is it better to make sure they don't by taking the bastard out first? deffinately the second option. I've never been burgled/robbed though, so the terror of waking to find somebody in my house is not something i know... IF it did happen, would i shoot somebody who i thought was going to kill me or a loved one..too right i would, i'd deal with the mental anguish aftewards________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #46 November 10, 2005 *thud* I just fainted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #47 November 10, 2005 Quotesorry about the insults, i don't mean to act a twat all the time.. just get carried away LOL yeah, it was the only time ever i've fired a gun, scared me to be honest. once i had fired it a couple of times, i got into it . i guess its a comment on the societies we live in, we don't think that an intruder is going to be armed (yeah, they may be, but we don't assume it) so to carry a gun next to your bed seems WAY over the top to us. Not that we could just go and buy one either... i seriously would not even have a clue where my nearest gunsmiths is, or how i go about applying for a licence to own one. if you think that any intruder in your house is probably carrying a gum themselves, then i can see why you'd have a gun... is it better to risk you or your loved ones getting shot, or is it better to make sure they don't by taking the bastard out first? deffinately the second option. I've never been burgled/robbed though, so the terror of waking to find somebody in my house is not something i know... IF it did happen, would i shoot somebody who i thought was going to kill me or a loved one..too right i would, i'd deal with the mental anguish aftewards see, I knew two assholes like me and you could have a logical, coherent conversation!! ya know, my wife has always been against guns. it took a lot to convince her to let me have one. but I did a lot of reading, a lot of research, dug through the rhetoric (on BOTH sides - the left and right) and came to the honest conclusion that the BEST way to defend my family is w/ a firearm. And in another time and another place, maybe it would be something else... but guns have been demonized. Yet they are just another tool that can be used for good or ill. I choose to use them for good, namely to protect myself and my family. And they are indeed a great deterrant (sp?) I've drawn my weapon on one prowler, an 18 year old man who I spotted looking into our windows late at night. No shots fired, the gun was never even brought up to his level. Just the sight that I was armed was enough for him to piss himself. We called the cops, who came and had a nice conversation w/ him and me, and I honestly think his burglarizing days are done... I mean, this man says he saw his life flash before his eyes. I didn't press charges, the cop left, and the young man and I had some chocolate milk... we had a great talk and he cried and cried... I honestly think that the man had a conversion from crime. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #48 November 10, 2005 Quote And they are indeed a great deterrant (sp?) I've drawn my weapon on one prowler, an 18 year old man who I spotted looking into our windows late at night. No shots fired, the gun was never even brought up to his level. Just the sight that I was armed was enough for him to piss himself. We called the cops, who came and had a nice conversation w/ him and me, and I honestly think his burglarizing days are done... I mean, this man says he saw his life flash before his eyes. I didn't press charges, the cop left, and the young man and I had some chocolate milk... we had a great talk and he cried and cried... I honestly think that the man had a conversion from crime. Interesting story. How was it he didn't run when he saw you with your firearm?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #49 November 10, 2005 QuoteQuote And they are indeed a great deterrant (sp?) I've drawn my weapon on one prowler, an 18 year old man who I spotted looking into our windows late at night. No shots fired, the gun was never even brought up to his level. Just the sight that I was armed was enough for him to piss himself. We called the cops, who came and had a nice conversation w/ him and me, and I honestly think his burglarizing days are done... I mean, this man says he saw his life flash before his eyes. I didn't press charges, the cop left, and the young man and I had some chocolate milk... we had a great talk and he cried and cried... I honestly think that the man had a conversion from crime. Interesting story. How was it he didn't run when he saw you with your firearm? our house is on a slope... he was looking in the basement windows, and coming up the slope towards the back door, which is on the main level. he was half-way there, facing the back door and out I sprang as he looked into our dining room window, cathcing him totally off guard. He was outside of the range of our motion sensor light, but as I burst out the back door, the flood lights came on, lighting me and him up. he saw the gun and me, since he was facing me, and he didn't have anywhere to go. He was about 10-15 feet away at this point. I think he was totally stunned. It was very late and I didn't expect to see anyone awake. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #50 November 10, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote And they are indeed a great deterrant (sp?) I've drawn my weapon on one prowler, an 18 year old man who I spotted looking into our windows late at night. No shots fired, the gun was never even brought up to his level. Just the sight that I was armed was enough for him to piss himself. We called the cops, who came and had a nice conversation w/ him and me, and I honestly think his burglarizing days are done... I mean, this man says he saw his life flash before his eyes. I didn't press charges, the cop left, and the young man and I had some chocolate milk... we had a great talk and he cried and cried... I honestly think that the man had a conversion from crime. Interesting story. How was it he didn't run when he saw you with your firearm? our house is on a slope... he was looking in the basement windows, and coming up the slope towards the back door, which is on the main level. he was half-way there, facing the back door and out I sprang as he looked into our dining room window, cathcing him totally off guard. He was outside of the range of our motion sensor light, but as I burst out the back door, the flood lights came on, lighting me and him up. he saw the gun and me, since he was facing me, and he didn't have anywhere to go. He was about 10-15 feet away at this point. I think he was totally stunned. It was very late and I didn't expect to see anyone awake. did you know he didn't have a gun? what would you have done if he had tried to over power you? i presume you would not have shot him, but what would you have done with the gun? you can't just place it on the floor while you have a fist fight with him, he could have picked it up himself... how could you have made sure he didn't get it and also make sure it didn't go off accidently? i'm not trying to have an argument, just curious________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
