mr2mk1g 10 #51 November 9, 2005 ah come on - I'm talking personal e-mails. Say the same content was sent via e-mail as opposed to pm - the 'correctness' of the act of posting it would not change merely because of the medium. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #52 November 9, 2005 Quoteah come on - I'm talking personal e-mails. Say the same content was sent via e-mail as opposed to pm - the 'correctness' of the act of posting it would not change merely because of the medium. Really?? If I get a letter in the mail from sone one I barely know telling me that he thinks I am an ungreatefull prick, I pass it around to other friends and family and acquientances to read. Probably saying something along the lines of: look at what this idot sent me. I think you would do the same. Still want to talk about correctnes not changing because of the medium? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #53 November 9, 2005 What if you published that letter in the local press? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #54 November 9, 2005 QuoteWhat if you published that letter in the local press? This isn't the local press......this is a website maintained for the benefit of skydivers, who among themselves largly refer to each other as family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #55 November 9, 2005 Woah, the entire thread disappeared and was beautifully hijacked. For me it would depend on the content and the poster. I've recieved a lot of PMs that were the same or worse and haven't yet felt the need to publicly post them. Mostly because regardless of what the poster said I respected their opinion - or simply blew it off as the ravings of a lunatic. From someone I didnt know and complete bollocks? It would probably depend on how funny I found it. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #56 November 9, 2005 well... technically putting stuff up on the web is legally very analogus to publishing it in the local press. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #57 November 9, 2005 QuoteIf rdutch decided out of the blue to feel the need to send him an email/pm basically calling him an asshole, I think it is more than fair game to be posted, just like SPAM. All this says, is that you don't respect privacy or courtesy. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #58 November 9, 2005 QuoteAll this says, is that you don't respect privacy or courtesy. PA- TRIOT ACT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #59 November 9, 2005 QuoteQuoteAll this says, is that you don't respect privacy or courtesy. PA-TRIOT ACT Exactly - situational ethics - "it's ok to disrepect someone else's privacy because my reasons are better than other people's. I don't like a person, therefore courtesy to them isn't that big a deal." Some pigs are more equal than others I guess. Sometimes right and wrong is clear cut. Sometimes doing the right thing is distasteful. I think we have lost that in today's very self centered world. Look at 90% of the posts on SC. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #60 November 9, 2005 QuoteSometimes right and wrong is clear cut. Sometimes doing the right thing is distasteful. I think we have lost that in today's very self centered world. I concur. *sigh* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #61 November 9, 2005 QuoteAll this says, is that you don't respect privacy or courtesy. No I think that when somebody sends me something unsolicited, it is no longer private. It becomes mine to do with as I please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #62 November 9, 2005 QuoteNo I think that when somebody sends me something unsolicited, it is no longer private. It becomes mine to do with as I please. Ahh, a Private Message is only private if you request it. Here it was I thought respecting others is something I do because of what I believe in regardless of how other people act. But, it turns out that personal values are negotiable items driven by my opinions of others. I've been doing it all wrong. That clears things up greatly. Good thing to know. I stand corrected. I'm glad to join the enlightened world. You have to be playing devil's advocate at this point. or maybe I am...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #63 November 9, 2005 Quote...No I think that when somebody sends me something unsolicited, it is no longer private. It becomes mine to do with as I please. Nothing wrong with that...it's just what you do with it that reflects on your integrity.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #64 November 9, 2005 QuoteAhh, a Private Message is only private if you request it. Here it was I thought respecting others is something I do because of what I believe in regardless of how other people act. But, it turns out that personal values are negotiable items driven by my opinions of others. I've been doing it all wrong. That clears things up greatly. Good thing to know. I stand corrected. I'm glad to join the enlightened world. You have to be playing devil's advocate at this point. or maybe I am...... I am not a big fan of all the messages posted by the guy who posted the private message...though he got shit on and nobody said anything about the original message....which I think was a bigger issue. I would never, ever start a fist fight. One of my personal values. However, if some one hits me I am going to hit back. I would never post a personal message out of courtesy. Though, when I never asked for the message, plus it slams me, I don't think I have to be courteous to that person anymore. Even if more people around me like that person more than me....which I think is a big thing that played in this original incident..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #65 November 9, 2005 I'm taking a geek standpoint. Unless you encrypt it and send it to me to decrypt it any communication on the intarweb is akin to a postcard. Thats why companies put those stupid disclaimers on the bottoms of their emails - because it supposedly locks you into respecting privacy. In fact, I can think of many websites that are threatened with legal action or recieve insulting private emails which they then publish in it's entirety and although they've been threatened have never been taken to court. Sorry, but there's just no case I can think of where the posting of private email has ever been actionable. Check out www.attrition.org's history of dealing with stupid legal threats, their posting them publicly. Or penny-arcades dealings with Jack Thompson - a highly litigious lawyer who was trying to sue the guys for harassment but didnt try to sue them for posting his communications online. People generally dont make stuff public because they do have personal moral codes. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites artistcalledian 0 #66 November 9, 2005 i'm sat laughing my tits off at some of the posters in this topic.... going on like little bitches about the fact i posted a pm, big deal !!!!! do you think i care about good ettiquet on the internet? you really read too much into all of this if you're getting your knickers in a twist about me posting it do you know one sure way of making sure nobody posts an abusive pm you send to somebody? don't send one in the first place !!!!!! i don't send them, i don't even post abuse towards people on the actual forum, what i do do is take the mickey out of people, and its usually the ones who take forums ever so serious that i target, they are the ones who will always get territorial and defend their beloved forum thanks for the laughs about integrity and class, you made me smile at work________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ReBirth 0 #67 November 9, 2005 Quotedo you think i care about good ettiquet on the internet? No, you obviously don't. What you fail to realize though is that this isn't a typical internet message board. Many of the people on here know each other in person. Many skydivers travel to each others dropzones and stay in each others houses. I remember the days when there were less than a hundred people on here (in the days of the OLD board). If you really are an active skydiver, I guarantee that someone will know you personally that also knows someone you piss off. This is NOT an anonymous board. You might want to keep that in mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #68 November 9, 2005 everyone that's posted a PM has been slapped down. you're nothing special can we get back to the French riots now? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #69 November 9, 2005 Quoteeveryone that's posted a PM has been slapped down. bullshit too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites artistcalledian 0 #70 November 9, 2005 Quoteeveryone that's posted a PM has been slapped down. you think i've been slapped down? dream on lad________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #71 November 9, 2005 >you think i've been slapped down? You've gotten your one warning on the subject. Take that as you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,465 #72 November 9, 2005 QuoteYou've gotten your one warning on the subject. Take that as you like. for posting a PM? will you slap your boss for that too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites artistcalledian 0 #73 November 9, 2005 ok, warning noted, but.... can i just ask, just for clarification so i don't step accross the line and get banned..... is it ok to send abusive pm's, but not acceptable to name and shame the sender on here? would i have been ok to send him an abusive pm in return? or how about i send an abusive pm, out of the blue, to somebody who's posts i don't agree with? i'm just curious as to whats ok and what's not, i don't want to be an habitual line stepper ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #74 November 9, 2005 >for posting a PM? For posting a personal attack. I don't care where the text came from. 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AlexCrowley 0 #65 November 9, 2005 I'm taking a geek standpoint. Unless you encrypt it and send it to me to decrypt it any communication on the intarweb is akin to a postcard. Thats why companies put those stupid disclaimers on the bottoms of their emails - because it supposedly locks you into respecting privacy. In fact, I can think of many websites that are threatened with legal action or recieve insulting private emails which they then publish in it's entirety and although they've been threatened have never been taken to court. Sorry, but there's just no case I can think of where the posting of private email has ever been actionable. Check out www.attrition.org's history of dealing with stupid legal threats, their posting them publicly. Or penny-arcades dealings with Jack Thompson - a highly litigious lawyer who was trying to sue the guys for harassment but didnt try to sue them for posting his communications online. People generally dont make stuff public because they do have personal moral codes. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #66 November 9, 2005 i'm sat laughing my tits off at some of the posters in this topic.... going on like little bitches about the fact i posted a pm, big deal !!!!! do you think i care about good ettiquet on the internet? you really read too much into all of this if you're getting your knickers in a twist about me posting it do you know one sure way of making sure nobody posts an abusive pm you send to somebody? don't send one in the first place !!!!!! i don't send them, i don't even post abuse towards people on the actual forum, what i do do is take the mickey out of people, and its usually the ones who take forums ever so serious that i target, they are the ones who will always get territorial and defend their beloved forum thanks for the laughs about integrity and class, you made me smile at work________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #67 November 9, 2005 Quotedo you think i care about good ettiquet on the internet? No, you obviously don't. What you fail to realize though is that this isn't a typical internet message board. Many of the people on here know each other in person. Many skydivers travel to each others dropzones and stay in each others houses. I remember the days when there were less than a hundred people on here (in the days of the OLD board). If you really are an active skydiver, I guarantee that someone will know you personally that also knows someone you piss off. This is NOT an anonymous board. You might want to keep that in mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #68 November 9, 2005 everyone that's posted a PM has been slapped down. you're nothing special can we get back to the French riots now? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #69 November 9, 2005 Quoteeveryone that's posted a PM has been slapped down. bullshit too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #70 November 9, 2005 Quoteeveryone that's posted a PM has been slapped down. you think i've been slapped down? dream on lad________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #71 November 9, 2005 >you think i've been slapped down? You've gotten your one warning on the subject. Take that as you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #72 November 9, 2005 QuoteYou've gotten your one warning on the subject. Take that as you like. for posting a PM? will you slap your boss for that too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #73 November 9, 2005 ok, warning noted, but.... can i just ask, just for clarification so i don't step accross the line and get banned..... is it ok to send abusive pm's, but not acceptable to name and shame the sender on here? would i have been ok to send him an abusive pm in return? or how about i send an abusive pm, out of the blue, to somebody who's posts i don't agree with? i'm just curious as to whats ok and what's not, i don't want to be an habitual line stepper ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #74 November 9, 2005 >for posting a PM? For posting a personal attack. I don't care where the text came from. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #75 November 9, 2005 Quote>for posting a PM? For posting a personal attack. I don't care where the text came from. for posting his personal attack on me? i've not posted a personal attack against anybody ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
