tumbler 0 #1 November 8, 2005 In an attempt to stop the rioting, and because they are just so darn scared, the French government has decided to surrender to the rioters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #2 November 8, 2005 not bad.... i give it a 7 on a 1 - 10 scale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #3 November 8, 2005 really? i heard the USA were sending in the Marines!!! obviously they are going to have to send in 3 times as many troops as any other country would use, just to make sure they can win by over whelming the opposition, due to lack of actual fighting skills once they get their arses kicked like in Vietnam, they would then run away like pussys and claim a nice victory ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 November 8, 2005 QuoteIn an attempt to stop the rioting, and because they are just so darn scared, the French government has decided to surrender to the rioters. That makes sense. That's all they've ever done. Surrender... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #5 November 8, 2005 Well....we did send a lot of troops to your Island back in the 40's. But that was only because your women were begging for more real men to be imported Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #6 November 8, 2005 Quote once they get their arses kicked, they would then run away like pussys and claim a nice victory Just like General Cornwallis at Yorktown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #7 November 8, 2005 QuoteWell....we did send a lot of troops to your Island back in the 40's. But that was only because your women were begging for more real men to be imported Good show, ole chap!!! Spot on!!! I wish I'd thought of that one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #8 November 8, 2005 QuoteWell....we did send a lot of troops to your Island back in the 40's. But that was only because your women were begging for more real men to be imported Yeah, after 3 years of intense fighting, we'd lost quite a lot of ours. I realize you were joking, but the whole 'we saved your asses thing' from Americans has always shown a tremendous lack of awareness on the subject, or the impact it had on Europe as a whole in real terms. Hmmmm as an example I'd say - sort of like most Americans will feel about 9/11 in 50 years. edited: Except times it by 100 for deathtoll in the UK and then add the 61,900,000 others that died in total on all sides. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #9 November 8, 2005 QuoteWell....we did send a lot of troops to your Island back in the 40's. But that was only because your women were begging for more real men to be imported Actually, English men were the ones begging, hence the wave of enlisting witnessed in the US armed forces in the 40's. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #10 November 8, 2005 Well, that and the passing of Conscription bill in 1940 which made it law for all men of military age to sign up for possible induction into the armed service. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #11 November 8, 2005 QuoteYeah, after 3 years of intense fighting, we'd lost quite a lot of ours. ...not mentioning the short supplies of 20 something potential soldiers, as there was quite a decline in birth following the carnage of WWI, due to lack of surviving potential inseminators. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 November 8, 2005 Haaaa Most of them got splinters in the arses fromn sitting on the fence for so long.... whilst our grand parents tried to save the world (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tumbler 0 #13 November 8, 2005 Thanks j0nes... from you that is a great compliment! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #14 November 8, 2005 LOL America only does "the right thing" when its pushed into it (although they would have you believe they fight for the ordinary man, as in Iraq) Pearl Habour made them take off their blinkers and finally get involved.... couple of years too late, but hey... it wasn't their war, right? i actually saw a program on the BBC a few yars ago, and they were interviewing "normal" americans by asking them "when did WWII start" and most said 7th december 1941 just about sums it up really ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #15 November 8, 2005 QuoteLOL America only does "the right thing" when its pushed into it (although they would have you believe they fight for the ordinary man, as in Iraq) Pearl Habour made them take off their blinkers and finally get involved.... couple of years too late, but hey... it wasn't their war, right? i actually saw a program on the BBC a few yars ago, and they were interviewing "normal" americans by asking them "when did WWII start" and most said 7th december 1941 just about sums it up really Our policies at that time were "isolationist" in nature. Same as in WWI. After WWII, the US has been heavily involved in Global Affairs, and everyone wishes we would just go away. People want their cake and eat it too. Talk about blinkers (or blinders). What was that quote from that Island across the pond: "Peace in our time." Shortly after that the bombs began falling and all of Europe was swallowed up. And don't worry, the US Merchant Marine did nothing to sustain the UK during the battle of Britain. Just about sums it up really.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #16 November 8, 2005 7? seems WAY too generous considering how overt it was. 4/10. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #17 November 8, 2005 Quotereally? i heard the USA were sending in the Marines!!! obviously they are going to have to send in 3 times as many troops as any other country would use, just to make sure they can win by over whelming the opposition, due to lack of actual fighting skills once they get their arses kicked like in Vietnam, they would then run away like pussys and claim a nice victory I was at the Navy/Marine Corps Birthday Ball in Chicago on Saturday. Every single officer I spoke to said that the US troops are not well trained to deal with policing situations like currently in Iraq (or France), and that the Europeans (particularly the Brits) are better at it. OTOH, in a conventional battlefield situation the US dominates everyone else.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #18 November 8, 2005 Quote I realize you were joking, but the whole 'we saved your asses thing' from Americans has always shown a tremendous lack of awareness on the subject, or the impact it had on Europe as a whole in real terms. yeah but the "you guys didn't really do much" shows even a more tremendous lack of awareness on the subject" America was slow to enter the war, there were many mistakes made by all. "Peace in our time" comes to mind. Treaties that England and France made - which btw the Americans didn't sign, comes to mind. War materials that we sent helped. The ships that del. supplies helped. I can see that Americans s/b careful about the tone "we saved your asses" but IMO we did a lotKevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #19 November 8, 2005 at the end of the day... without America's help in WWII, the world would look a different place.... i think the Russian army would have took down Germany on their own, but then what if they had !!!! ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #20 November 8, 2005 Thank you for missing the point so superbly. "When 9/11 happened we got involved by sending girders and office chairs, so get off your damned high horse!" My point wasnt that sacrifices were not made by America, but that the impact in human life terms were on a scale that is unimaginable. Hell, I'm the first generation to NOT remember the war - 62,000,000 is unimaginable. But I grew up with stories of dead relatives, husbands, children, bombed out cities, rationing from people that didnt have to imagine it because it was part of who they became. I wasnt insulting anyone, just tossing out a thought that you took to be something more than intended. Hence my use of 9/11 as an example as far as the impact on a nations psyche and the long term cost. I should remember to always add "I FEEL ...." before any statement, obviously. And in all honesty, the US people were dragged into the conflict kicking and screaming by their president according to the history I've read (and I'm always open to conflicting information to follow up on). At which point the US did have a HUGE impact on the war, and helped the allies win. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #21 November 8, 2005 QuotePearl Habour made them take off their blinkers and finally get involved I guess the Fighting Tigers in China, Lend Lease, etc...were "uninvolved". We were actually involved for quite a while (that's WHY Japan attacked us in the first place, not to mention German UBoats sinking our ships). But anyway, I was just joking, I'm not one of the "we saved your asses" guys. And I understand that it's only about 30% of you that actually have Yank dads but don't know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #22 November 8, 2005 Please forgive my mistake, perhaps if you had been a little clearer for me I wouldn't have made it. So correct me here but what you were saying is: When you take a comment like "we saved your asses" and go to (basically) you Americans are unsensitive to our looses during WWII? Did WWII effect your countries "psyche" sure of course. Did it effect America's sure. I did a real fast google. America had approx 291,557 dead and 670,846 wounded. (One of the dead I am named after.) Yes, the president at the time did "drag us into the war" Perhaps he even broke the law. BUT it wasn't at the time, perhaps wrongly so, "our war". BTW I didn't take it as an insult just that it seemed a large leap of topic. I'll now crawl back under my rockKevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #23 November 8, 2005 Quoteat the end of the day... without America's help in WWII, the world would look a different place.... i think the Russian army would have took down Germany on their own, but then what if they had !!!! That's right, and your would have just mastered the German language when you had to switch over to Russan.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #24 November 8, 2005 I'm with you. And yes it was a huge leap. I take them a lot, especially if the meds wear off. Loss of life is just a fraction of the psychological impact of the war. The difference between a war fought in foreign theatres and the luftwafe bombing the crap out of the cities. And I've never said 'you really didnt do much' in regards to this. I have, however, heard the 'we saved your asses' too many times to mention - usually from Americans who truly believe that the US won WW2 singlehandedly (perhaps with the British making a nice cup of tea in a supporting role) TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #25 November 8, 2005 The only reasion why WWII was won was because the Germans were forced to fight a 2 front war, as well as some very poor command decisions from up top. Really if it weren't for the Russians it might have been a different story. On another note AMERICA FUCK YEAH! (sorry couldn't resist) So about French Rioting. I was reading that it is more about the lack of the ability for these ethnic minorities to successfully intergrate into the socioty. Which is why a lot of the terrorists on sept 11 while orriginally from Saudi Arabia the most of them had lived in Germany for some time. They say that in Europe these peoples are les likely to be accepted into socioty and thus they want to bluw stuff up for thier god... crazy shit, eh?Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites