sinker 0 #51 November 9, 2005 Quotethank god we don't live in an as fucked up country as you do then... we don't carry guns, and we don't feel the need to be as paranoid about things as you do. The average "perp" in this country isn't carrying a gun. do you think the only reason so many criminals in the states carry guns, is because its been so easy for anybody to go out and buy one? its too late for you to ban them, been too easy for too long for Joe Public to buy one.... You're already fucked, but the countries who have never had this crazy "right to bear arms" thing, hasn't had guns available to the masses, so there just aren't that many out there... yes, the minority of criminals everywhere have them, but its not as widespread as america. Once you have a "right to bear arms" you have a spiralling gun culture, you get people saying "well, i might as well have one to protect myself" and the only reason the say that is because of many years of lax gun control, enabling millions of guns to have been bought and "out there" if you're in the UK, then I'm laughing my "paranoid" american ass off at you. B/c you're crime rate is through the roof largely B/C your country will NOT allow it's people to defend itself w/ guns... and until recently wouldn't even allow people to defend themselves in their OWN HOUSES w/ any weapon from an intruder. Do you know how popular crossbows and bow and arrow sets have become in your England? Very. Wonder why? B/c civilians can't defend themselves w/ guns... violent criminals in England roam freely and w/ relative impunity knowing that they can attack just about anybody w/o the real possibility of being hurt. Think I'm paranoid? Again, I don't give a fuck. Think your country is w/o guns? Dig your head out of the sand. Your pompousness bores me. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #52 November 9, 2005 Quote...just too many gun banning slags pissin in my flakes is all... I missed the posts about gun banning in this thread. I kinda like your thoughts on keeping it on your person instead of locked up...I'm still mulling it over. But I do get the impression that you are not one of those showing off their weapons at the DZ.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #53 November 9, 2005 Quoteyes, the minority of criminals everywhere have them, but its not as widespread as america. Some countries have more guns than us with lower gun crime. Which only goes to show we have a problem with crime, not with guns. The main issue being lack of jail cells to incarcerate violent criminals that would use guns because they're too full of people who smoked some grass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #54 November 9, 2005 QuoteQuote...just too many gun banning slags pissin in my flakes is all... I missed the posts about gun banning in this thread. I kinda like your thoughts on keeping it on your person instead of locked up...I'm still mulling it over. But I do get the impression that you are not one of those showing off their weapons at the DZ. i guess I mispoke... not gun banning per se, but anti-gunners... thanks about the gun on person thing... I couldn't live w/ the thought of one of my kids getting hurt w/ my gun accidentally. if it's not on my body, it's in the safe. I'm the only one w/ the key. and no, I NEVER show off my gun at the DZ... in fact, most people don't even know I carry. I wear baggy clothes and the piece is small (yet potent). If someone knows you carry, that's one less advantage you have over a potential threat. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missg8tordivr 0 #55 November 9, 2005 Guns don't kill people...people kill people.*** F LORIDA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #56 November 9, 2005 we have a right to defend our property... with "reasonable" force, shooting somebody dead is not reasonable force________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #57 November 9, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'll live the mental image of a bullet or two or eight in the perp. ... Again, I don't give a fuck if you don't understand why so many Americans feel the way I do about this issue. This isn't about you. It's about me and my family and thanks be to God I live in a country and a state that recognizes my God-given right to protect myself and my family in the way I see fit. A little too much Jesus in your Corn Flakes this morning? no, just too many gun banning slags pissin in my flakes is all... But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn and bust a cap into him also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #58 November 9, 2005 Quotewe have a right to defend our property... with "reasonable" force, shooting somebody dead is not reasonable force Even if they're coming at you with a 6" knife? Or an axe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #59 November 9, 2005 QuoteIf someone knows you carry, that's one less advantage you have over a potential threat. do you put your combat trousers on and rumage around in the dirt, trying to kill rabits? we got ourselves a real live militiaman here folks... yee haaaa________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missg8tordivr 0 #60 November 9, 2005 Quotewe have a right to defend our property... with "reasonable" force, shooting somebody dead is not reasonable force Please tell me your def of "reasonable" force. Robber: I am gonna take your money and they kill you. Victim: Oh, no...please don't do that, or I will hit you with this brick!!*** F LORIDA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #61 November 9, 2005 So you DO have it with you, eh? Note to self: Stay on "best-behavior" when Jean's around. And there you go again...new avatar...what, you having an identity crisis or something? Least you could do is PM me the full-sized old one...be rude not to.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
missg8tordivr 0 #62 November 9, 2005 QuoteSo you DO have it with you, eh? Note to self: Stay on "best-behavior" when Jean's around. And there you go again...new avatar...what, you having an identity crisis or something? Least you could do is PM me the full-sized old one...be rude not to. Sometimes I have it with me, sometimes I don't. Depends on my mood really. Seriously, I don't carry it on me because I don't have a permit, I do however keep it within the legal limits when I do have it around....According to the Fl state law. The owl is my power animal!*** F LORIDA! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #63 November 9, 2005 Damn...and I thought you were going to have an intelligent discussion for once. Apparently gross generalization, rude behavior, and downright nastiness haven't been banned over there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #64 November 9, 2005 Sure didn't take long to get to SC Watching this thread was like watching an accident about to happen... cars racing towards each other, tires(tyres for the Brits) squealing, just waiting for the big bang and the sound of broken glass."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #65 November 9, 2005 Ian, Sinker, cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #66 November 9, 2005 Sinker's on a plane now, no worries. He missed my last little gem, too. Fuck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #67 November 9, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhy? What business is it of yours if I want to show a fellow gun enthusiast a firearm that is in my truck, and I do so safely and out in the parking lot? Do you have a permit to carry that thing in your truck? Would you do this in the parking lot at Wal-Mart? If not, then why at the parking lot of the dropzone? There's a time and place for everything. At the dz, what you show off is your gear and your ability to fly. Serves you right if someone breaks into your truck and takes your firearm after your narcissistic little show and tell session. I show off new toys to friends at the DZ all the time. I don't show them off to strangers in the Wal-Mart parking lot. I don't understand your apparent problem with that. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #68 November 9, 2005 Quote Once you have a "right to bear arms" you have a spiralling gun culture, you get people saying "well, i might as well have one to protect myself" and the only reason the say that is because of many years of lax gun control, enabling millions of guns to have been bought and "out there" Your country has millions of guns floating about, you know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #69 November 9, 2005 OK, I have to post one of my favorite social-commentary songs by The Arrogant Worms... A canadian band. QuoteWouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? There'd be no more crime, 'cause everybody'd have a gun! Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? We wouldn't need the police no more, 'cause everybody'd have a gun! (Yeah!) Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? (had a gun) Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? (had a gun) Nobody'd ever get shot, 'cause everybody'd have a gun! (Makes sense!) Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? We could go out and shoot things We could go out and shoot things We could go out and shoot things We could go out and shoot things We could go out and shoot things We could go out and shoot things We'd all feel safe, 'cause everybody'd have a gun! Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? (had a gun) Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? (had a gun) Everyone'd be equal, 'cause everybody'd have a gun Not me, I got me a rifle! Well hang on, if you got yourself a rifle then I wanna get me a semi-automatic weapon! You get a semi-automatic weapon and I'm gonna want an automatic weapon! You get yourself an automatic weapon, I'm gonna get a super-automatic weapon! Well if you get a super-automatic weapon, then I'm gonna get a super-duper-automatic weapon with a CD-ROM drive! If you get yourself one of those I'm gonna get a super-duper-automatic weapon with a CD-ROM drive, and a big old hard drive, and a big guitar amp ... (rambles on while the rest of the Worms sing) Wouldn't it be great if everybody had the weapon of their choice? Wouldn't it be great if everybody had the weapon of their choice? Wouldn't it be great if everybody had a gun? (Still rambling..) I'll go so fast I'll be able to chase you from here to Saigon, and then I'll shoot like little Nerf rockets at you and poke you in the eye 'cause it'll have automatic like finger-poking in the eye things... -Karen "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #70 November 10, 2005 QuoteSinker's on a plane now, no worries. not on a plane over to my house is he? i've only got a banana for protection ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #71 November 10, 2005 QuoteOK, I have to post one of my favorite social-commentary songs by The Arrogant Worms... A canadian band. I don't quite understand why, but *swoon* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #72 November 10, 2005 QuoteIan, Sinker, cut it out. Scared me for a second there.... "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #73 November 10, 2005 QuoteWhat you personally prefer doesn't count - you don't have the right to dictate to others. Does that mean you are pro-choice? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #75 November 10, 2005 QuoteI show off new toys to friends at the DZ all the time. I don't show them off to strangers in the Wal-Mart parking lot. I don't understand your apparent problem with that. I think guns have their place. I don't think their place is part of a show and tell routine in any parking lot. I grew up with guns in the house. And I know firsthand the consequences of talking too much about the firearms one owns even to those one calls friends (and sometimes even family). It only takes one small error in judgment to create a huge problem. I'm not talking about the accidental discharge of a firearm, btw. The tendency to play show and tell needs to be tempered with a certain amount of good judgment and caution. Playing with (showing off) firearms in the parking lot doesn't fall into that category. But it's a matter of live and learn, I suppose, and if someone would prefer to learn from their own experience instead of experience-once-removed, so be it. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
