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No. You have every reason of the world to be proud Americans. If you just have a look back on your derivation: Germans, French, Italians, not to forget the good old red skins...



dudeist skydiver # 3105
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I agree here too. Us Americans are far too proud. I mean what do we really have to be proud of? Well I think we have a lot to be proud but you are right....it would be a hell of a lot of easier to be cowards if we weren't so proud.
No. You have every reason of the world to be proud Americans. If you just have a look back on your derivation: Germans, French, Italians, not to forget the good old red skins...



I think you owe native americans an apology.

edited to add: lol how fitting you live in germany.
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In a cross promotional marketing strategy I had approached both the Pentagon and Target and Walmart to put together the "terrorist" line of fashions for the muslim about town.
The basic tee says "I'm a terrorist, praise Allah!". These shirts are to be dropped in bulk over the middle east. Because we dont have any basic intelligence on middle east laundry capabilities the military would have to move fast (within a 72 hour window is probably best) and sweep through the region killing anyone wearing the tshirt.
The best thing? There's a walmart/target logo on the back under the words "God Bless America!".
Even though this method seems to be possibly the only way to ensure that we get every single last terrorist fairly without inadvertantly angering moderate muslims the Pentagon has so far been resistant to this idea. I have no clue why.

TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.

edited to add: lol how fitting you live in germany.
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What? Apology? Why??

dudeist skydiver # 3105
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QuoteHow many people think America is winnin their war on terror?
america is the cause of the terror.
QuoteAnd how many soldiers lives will finally be lost once this war is won?
too many
QuoteWhen do people think (roughly) this war will be officially won?
as soon as GWB gets a bullet in the head or realises the terror he is inflicting on many, and that this terror is only provoking more terrorist attacks .
GWB's war on terror is an oxymoron.
ox·y·mo·ron ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ks-môrn, -mr-)
n. pl. ox·y·mo·ra (-môr, -mr) or ox·y·mo·rons
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.
This seems to be a favorite statement by many, but it is wrong.
Extremists are the cause of the terror. America (and every other "infidel" hosting country) is the Target of Terror. It has been that way since the "founding" or defining of religion and Americas attempt to freely excerises thier rights to practice any religion.
Americans should be proud. Their ancestors took action and made a better life for them selves. They could have stayed where ever they happened to live and been non-existant in the history of the world. Yes, this action did comeat the expense of the Native population of North America and it is a regretable note in history.
They made a decision and acted, with the goal of a better life.
So, start being safe, first!!!
Bravo!!




TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.
QuoteTerrorism is on the up since 9/11.
Not in the USA. Which is what matters the most to me. There have been far fewer attacks here since President Bush responded to 9/11. A different result obtains, however, in certain countries where they seemingly have chosen appeasement ("peace in our time!"), which concerns me somewhat given I travel abroad frequently. Perhaps Europe will eventually get off its ass, address state-sponsored terrorism proactively, and abandon the delusion that is the contemporary welfare state with nannies and rattles for all.
Edited to qualify "terrorism" by adding "state-sponsored."
Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!
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QuoteTerrorism is on the up since 9/11.
Not in the USA. Which is what matters the most to me. There have been far fewer attacks here since President Bush responded to 9/11.
Actually not in anywhere else either, since there has not been any terrorist attack since the last one. I like your logic.

QuoteA different result obtains, however, in certain countries where they seemingly have chosen appeasement ("peace in our time!"), which concerns me somewhat given I travel abroad frequently.
Do you realize that besides the U.S the only 2 countries attacked by AQ yet has been those who didn´t show appeasement at all?
QuotePerhaps Europe will eventually get off its ass, address state-sponsored terrorism proactively, and abandon the delusion that is the contemporary welfare state with nannies and rattles for all.
Thank you, but Europe is fine how it is. When we need someone to go to war we will give you guys a call. Or better yet, we will give you faulty intelligence reports

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QuoteTerrorism is on the up since 9/11.
Not in the USA. Which is what matters the most to me. There have been far fewer attacks here since President Bush responded to 9/11. A different result obtains, however, in certain countries where they seemingly have chosen appeasement ("peace in our time!"), which concerns me somewhat given I travel abroad frequently. Perhaps Europe will eventually get off its ass, address state-sponsored terrorism proactively, and abandon the delusion that is the contemporary welfare state with nannies and rattles for all.
Edited to qualify "terrorism" by adding "state-sponsored."
Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!
any answers to my original qustions?
drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police
QuoteWhen we need someone to go to war we will give you guys a call. Or better yet, we will give you faulty intelligence reports





TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.
QuoteActually not in anywhere else either, since there has not been any terrorist attack since the last one. I like your logic.
I guess they are having a bbq in France

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QuoteActually not in anywhere else either, since there has not been any terrorist attack since the last one. I like your logic.
You should consider polling your colleagues in Egypt, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia as to whether there have been “not any terrorist attack” in those countries.
Something got lost in the translation. I’ve witnessed you post more compelling argumentation Bottelines. Keep on trying.
QuoteDo you realize that besides the U.S the only 2 countries attacked by AQ yet has been those who didn´t show appeasement at all?
Are you referring to Indonesia and Morroco? These two countries are infamous for purchasing security from “AQ” after they are attacked, certainly neither country is taking proactive steps to quash Muslim insurgents as was suggested by my original post.
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Thank you, but Europe is fine how it is. When we need someone to go to war we will give you guys a call. Or better yet, we will give you faulty intelligence reports
Nah. The USA needs reliable partners who act despite their fears. Your type just lets the streets burn a la St. Denis and hopes for a good outcome.
Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!
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QuoteTerrorism is on the up since 9/11.
Not in the USA. Which is what matters the most to me. There have been far fewer attacks here since President Bush responded to 9/11. A different result obtains, however, in certain countries where they seemingly have chosen appeasement ("peace in our time!"), which concerns me somewhat given I travel abroad frequently. Perhaps Europe will eventually get off its ass, address state-sponsored terrorism proactively, and abandon the delusion that is the contemporary welfare state with nannies and rattles for all.
Edited to qualify "terrorism" by adding "state-sponsored."
Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!
any answers to my original qustions?
still no answers

drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police
QuoteHow many people think America is winnin their war on terror?
"Winnin"? That's a pretty weak stereotype at best.
I believe America is succeeding in its war on terror. Far more goes on than is reported by the press and made available for consumption by dz.com posters. Not that you genuinely care, it’s much easier to poke sticks at the giant, you realize that he doesn’t consider ants to be worth his while most of the time.
QuoteAnd how many soldiers lives will finally be lost once this war is won?
This depends on the level of cooperation we receive from others. If we are forced to take down Iran singlehandedly, for example, because Europe shows the Iranians no teeth, then more American lives will be lost. As JFK once said, “we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.” So it depends.
QuoteWhen do people think (roughly) this war will be officially won?
It’s not Grand Prix. Don’t naively anticipate that type of victory.
Quoteand when soldiers are pulled out of Iraq, will the victory be the same as the victory in Vietnam?
No. Unlike with Vietnam the Iraqi’s will remain under American dominion for decades no matter which American political party controls the executive branch here.
Quoterespect my authority !!!
Thanks for the laugh !!!
Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!
QuoteI believe America is succeeding in its war on terror
really? 2300 soldiers killed in Iraq and rising fast, is winning is it? More and more muslim fundamentalists blowing themselves up in suicide bombings all over the world, on an ever increasing scale, is winning is it? More terrorist killings by suicide bombers is you winning the war is it...
thank fuck you're not losing it, it would be an even bigger nightmare for the rest of the world
unbeleiveable.....QuoteIf we are forced to take down Iran singlehandedly, for example, because Europe shows the Iranians no teeth, then more American lives will be lost.
do you seriously think you will be able to invade Iran and win a war on their soil? what does winning in Iran mean to you? If America tries to "take Iran down" you'll get strikes on American soil that will make 9/11 look like nothing !!!
drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police
Quotedo you seriously think you will be able to invade Iran and win a war on their soil? what does winning in Iran mean to you? If America tries to "take Iran down" you'll get strikes on American soil that will make 9/11 look like nothing !!!
It’s obvious to technically trained people that America possesses the means to incinerate all of Iran and convert it into a glass serving platter if need be. You question this ability on our part from a technological perspective? Perhaps you feel we lack the will to act as we did over Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Similary it’s obvious that Iran can visit no such violence upon the people of America inside America. Provide specific support for your position if you choose to disagree.
I note that Europe is within striking range of Iran’s delivery systems, interestingly, which perhaps is why your tone is one of appeasement. I bet it sucks to occupy your position so near to fanatical Islam and with so many modernity haters in your midst. FYI I define "winning" against contemporary Iran as meaning they no longer have a capability to threaten American national interests, including our ally Israel or international petrol shipments transiting Hormuz and Sinai.
We can take Iran down if need be, but that's largely up to certain state actors in Europe. I predict America will take unilateral action and I may support this however I am called upon. I truly wish it does not come down to this sacrifice, though.
Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!
Hmmm... I agree. We should put our tails between our legs, lay down our weapons, and run for the hills like a certain country I know of.
I agree here too. Us Americans are far too proud. I mean what do we really have to be proud of? Well I think we have a lot to be proud but you are right....it would be a hell of a lot of easier to be cowards if we weren't so proud.
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