Winning the "war" on terror?

[rickjump1 0]

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perfidious

i wish i knew wht that word meant

Hinterlistig.

On my cd, "The Ventures play the greatest surfin' hits of all-time", number 17 is "Perfidia".

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[rushmc 23]

We are winning. No attacks on the US since 911, money and terorists taken away daily, the people of the Iraq supporting the US more and more.

But, after reading many of the posts I am ready to get flamed but, this is what I believe so.......all you more informed inteligent people can tell me why I am wrong.........even though I feel I am not.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Johnnyskydive 0]

Please, PLEASE tell me you aren't claiming to be a U.S. Senator?! You're joking right.

Johnny Skydive!

[shropshire 0]

Come on.... his avitar is John Belushi!! (think ANimal House)

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Johnnyskydive 0]

Yeah, I can't see anyones avitar....computer here at work won't load them for some reason?....I just noticed a couple of his posts and figured he was joking...I just had to make sure!

Johnny Skydive!

[shropshire 0]

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[ViperPilot 0]

The US HAS NOT caused more terror than all those islamic shitbags and Allah put together. Name all the times a US soldier has bombed a cafe, decapitated a child, executed teachers in the street, suicidally blown up police recruits, bombed trains (London and Spain), bombed nightclubs, flown planes into buildings, released nerve agents on a subway...goes on. I'm waiting for this answer.

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Seem to remember that WE did some of that in Iraq, when invaded.... different? I dont see how. Smart Bombs - Pah

Yes, because you and the media are the foremost authority on our munitions. You wouldn't believe what we can do unless you saw it. In fact, there's probably plenty of videos on the internet...find one that shows a JDAM flying right through a window...yeah, we're not bullshitting, precision munitions are fucking good and we're fucking good at using them. Yeah, I'm sure a few people have been killed by our bombs who weren't bad, but unlike the media and some factions in Iraq want you to believe, that number is incredibly low, relatively unconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

[ViperPilot 0]

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If the guys in the military didn´t agree with that war and voiced their opinion, the war would be over much sooner.

Well, we gave up that right when we hancocked the dotted line. Yes we can give opinions in our private lives, but it's not my place to say what I think at work and tell my boss that such and such is bullshit and we're doing things my way. Yeah, that'd go over well. Sorry, but I joined because I wanted to serve my country and do somethign that means a hell of a lot more to me then pushing papers for some corporation, 9-5 M-F. If that's your cup of tea, fine, but it sure isn't mine. And if that means you don't give a shit about me dying, then fine, why would I care anyways?

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As a matter of fact, it is not even benefitting you.

When was the last attack on US soil? Yeah, its benefitting me so far. Not to mention the thread Dustin started...yeah, it's benefiting me that people like that are being killed off, one less piece of shit in our world.

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This war is making some people very rich or very powerful, trust me when i tell you that you will not be better of because of this, neither economically, neither in terms of security.

Really, you don't say? Yeah, I'm sure some people are getting rich off this. However, suprisingly enough, I didn't grow up in this world with the hounding goal of doing anything I could to make as much money as possible, hopefully screwing others over in the process so I can be overlord of all money. I make what I make, and I do pretty well; I'm not rich, but I have what makes me happy in life.

[SudsyFist 0]

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For some reason many Americans tend believe that you must be intellectually superior if you make lots of money per hour.

This helps explain why most think-tanks are actually made up of prostitutes, drug dealers and super models.

When this strategy fails they will bring up the size of their genitals in an attempt to intimidate and prove catagorically that they *must* be right in their opinion.

Just pat them on the head and send them to bed like the pouty adolescent society they tend to be when told they can't stay out late

I love you, man. Will you PLEASE have my babies now?

[SudsyFist 0]

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Yeah, I'm sure a few people have been killed by our bombs who weren't bad, but unlike the media and some factions in Iraq want you to believe, that number is incredibly low, relatively unconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

How would you regard it if someone stated that the number of victims of 9/11 was, "relatively inconsequential in the grand scheme of things?"

I find most people's lack of empathy abhorrent. Is considering role-reversal really that difficult?

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Well, maybe I didn't say it right. I do feel for those who are innocently killed, as well as their family and friends. An innocent Iraqi killed by a bomb is no less of a tragedy than an American killed in the WTC. I'm sorry if I made it sound differently.

However, what I was trying to mean by the "inconsequential" stuff was that the amount of innocent Iraqis killed directly by Americans is very low compared to how many have been killed by terrorist insurgents in country. That's the distinction I was trying to make.

[SudsyFist 0]

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We are winning. No attacks on the US since 911,

Would you agree, then, that we were winning the then-undeclared War On Terror from 1993 to 2001 (mostly under... *gulp*... Clinton), a period during which there no successful terrorist attacks on the US?

Would you change your mind about our our current state of winning if, say, there was another catastrophic attack on US soil within the next year? If not, then doesn't that negate your use of it is a criterion for our "winning"?

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Thanks for the clarification. Good on you.

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We are winning. No attacks on the US since 911,

Would you agree, then, that we were winning the then-undeclared War On Terror from 1993 to 2001 (mostly under... *gulp*... Clinton), a period during which there no successful terrorist attacks on the US?

Would you change your mind about our our current state of winning if, say, there was another catastrophic attack on US soil within the next year? If not, then doesn't that negate your use of it is a criterion for our "winning"?

Errr... there was the Oklahoma City bombing and the first bombing of the WTC. Don't those count?

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Errr... there was the Oklahoma City bombing and the first bombing of the WTC. Don't those count?

Shite, you got me on Oklahoma City, but my choosing 1993 as the start year was to take into account the first WTC bombing.

OK, so either change it to, "catastrophic foreign attack on US soil," or "1995-2001."

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Errr... there was the Oklahoma City bombing and the first bombing of the WTC. Don't those count?

Shite, you got me on Oklahoma City, but my choosing 1993 as the start year was to take into account the first WTC bombing.

OK, so either change it to, "catastrophic foreign attack on US soil," or "1995-2001."

Actually, I think you chose those dates in a weak attempt to obfuscate a point..

[SudsyFist 0]

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Actually, I think you chose those dates in a weak attempt to obfuscate a point..

If I was really attempting to obfuscate a point, then I'd agree it was a weak attempt. After all, I kinda spelled it out by closing with the following:

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then doesn't that negate your use of it is a criterion for our "winning"?

Which was kinda my point.

[rushmc 23]

What ever you want to say doesn't change the fact we are winning but I understand admitting that undermines your political stance

Many many more of them are dying than ours. Elections have taken place, a first cut at a constitution has been made, the money tubes for the terorists are drying up making what they do more difficult.

You don't have to agree with the policies and the tactics but you can't close your eyes to the results.

.......opps, I guess you can


"Freedom isn't free"

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

america is the cause of the terror.

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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

'The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.'
W.C. Magee
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A self portrait?

What you say makes no sence to me at all. It is fogged in anger, resentment and total misunderstanding.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Terrorism is on the up since 9/11.

Not in the USA. Which is what matters the most to me. There have been far fewer attacks here since President Bush responded to 9/11. A different result obtains, however, in certain countries where they seemingly have chosen appeasement ("peace in our time!"), which concerns me somewhat given I travel abroad frequently. Perhaps Europe will eventually get off its ass, address state-sponsored terrorism proactively, and abandon the delusion that is the contemporary welfare state with nannies and rattles for all.

Edited to qualify "terrorism" by adding "state-sponsored."

Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners!

Well stated!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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if it didnt happen on US soil it probably didnt matter........right?

No we haven't helped any other countries. We are selfish and we are bullies. We invade contries and never leave.

Dam

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Will we win the war on terror? Nope. Its impossible. You can not fight a extreme arm of a religion without pissing off the moderates of that religion to the point that they become extremists

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Dam, finally an expert!!!! Tell us more

People like to make statements like the one at the top thinking they are so sharp in the assesment no one can dare chalenge them.........sad really........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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the london underground rings a bell, oh i guess thats whta you mean by trains

the war on terror is a joke. the US has caused more terror than all the extrmist attacks put together, for what?... financial gain.

i can't believe this is not obvious to everyone?

Once again, the superior inteligence of those with your views choose not to try and understand but to impune........once again very sad..........

If you are going to say that finacial gain is the goal and everyone should be able to see that then you dam well be able to back that kind of statement up with supporting "facts" .....an "opinion" will not do..........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln