Darius11 12
Darius11 12
QuoteBefore the invasion, I didn't support the war.
I didn't believe there were terrorists in Iraq, and I didn't believe that Sadam had WMDs.
Now though, well - now there ARE terrorists in Iraq, to the degree that Iraq is really the new Afghanistan. Iraq is now the worldwide center of terrorism.
Once the Iraq terrorists tire of blowing up Iraqis, they'll start blowing up westerners. Terrorists in Iraq must be dealt with.
Invading Iraq was one of the stupidest moves America has done in decades. However, the instant they invaded Iraq I became a supporter of the war. America can not leave Iraq until Iraq is safe and stable.
In a sense, America made the mess - America must clean it up.
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Although I wish enough people would have protested that this war would have never happened I do agree with you. We have to finish the job. Unfortunately it might become another Iran in that case it will be worst for the world and the Iraqi people.
And lets not forget there was no link between OBL and Sadam.
Channman 2
Alias 0
Oil has been a major US concern about Iraq in internal and unpublicized documents, since the start of this Administration, and indeed earlier.
But the need to dominate oil from Iraq is also deeply intertwined with the defense of the dollar. Its current strength is supported by OPEC's requirement (secured by a secret agreement between the US and Saudi Arabia) that all OPEC oil sales be denominated in dollars. This requirement is currently threatened by the desire of some OPEC countries to allow OPEC oil sales to be paid in euros.
http://bakerinstitute.org/Pubs/Studies.htm
Good info on understanding geopolitics and energy -
MY reason we are in Iraq
Carpe Diem
Darius11 12
QuoteSo why are we in this war...hopefully to kill many if not all the terrorist and those who support them.
What did terrorist have to do with Iraq????
thats my point
Channman 2
Mike111 0
QuoteVery well put.
What? His "acking ?" butt????
Mikey.

dudeist skydiver # 3105
Darius11 12
QuoteOh my acking butt, well I'm done here for now, enjoy your thread.
Well that’s a good decision if you have nothing factual to add. I wish more people were like that
Mike111 0
I meant his orginal post, oops lol that sounded weird!!!
"He put his acknig butt well "lol.


Sorry I meant his original arguments, very well put together IMHO.
Darius11 12
I value life.
Alias 0
And like it or not, it is more important to the US then we think. Not that I agree with this mess.....but see that value of securing energy for our future. Nasty way of getting it done.
Carpe Diem
Mike111 0
What about national security?
oil IS the answer. Not more or less.
Believe the oldies.

dudeist skydiver # 3105
QuoteThe terrorist are cowards
i'm sorry to say this... but it takes an unbelievable amount of courage to sacrifice your own life in something you believe in.
I read after the 9/11 attacks that a radio DJ in New York said the day after the attacks that the hijackers where not cowards... yes, twisted, murders and what ever....but not cowards, he got the sack, apparently Americans didn't want to hear the truth
i persoanlly don't think the terrorists are right, but i admire their conviction in their beliefs. How many on here are prepared to kill themselves for their beliefs?
to pay the ultimate (yes, very wrong) sacrifice is not the actions of a coward
drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police
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What makes you think that their (or our) national security was at risk? Especially from Iraq?
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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome
Mike111 0
Ok there are a lot of oil reserves in Iraq, and it would seme absurd to argue that that wasn't the cae i agree.... but....
why do it then?
what not attack 5 years before if oil was such a big thing?
Maybe cos of a new president?
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