ViperPilot 0 #51 October 31, 2005 Quote corse... the real problem is that some guy invented beer and chocolate - The bastardTongue No way, that guy kicks ass! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #52 October 31, 2005 <> - Ha... I have to agree but it [the arse] is kind of on the large side now.... because of them. Jezz, if I didn't play squash and run so much, I'd be an Anvil..... Regards, (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #53 October 31, 2005 QuotePerhaps what he weighs now is a good weight; a doctor would be a better judge of that than I would. As I mentioned in the other post, he died a few years ago, so I doubt that what he weighs now is of much importance. And I think I'll join Rhonda on this one and give up. I usually try not to post in these "Hey let's bash fat people!" threads, but the virus thing caught my attention and I thought it might actually turn into an interesting conversation (how silly of me)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #54 October 31, 2005 strangley... even tho' my initial post doesn't seem that way now..... the aim was Not to bash chunky folk. So, thanks for taking part. My initial problems stemmed from, what i perceived as crap science. Kindest Regards, (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #55 October 31, 2005 Quotestrangley... even tho' my initial post doesn't seem that way now..... the aim was Not to bash chunky folk. So, thanks for taking part. My initial problems stemmed from, what i perceived as crap science. Thanks for clearing that up. Your original post did sort of sound that way, but I'll believe you that that was not your intention. Actually, this thread has not been too bad in comparison to most threads on here regarding obesity (most of them I just stop reading after a few posts because they have nothing constructive to offer). As for the "crap science," I think they may actually have some valid evidence, and at least I learned something from this thread because it caused me to read a lot more about that particular virus and similar viruses (an interesting subject). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #56 October 31, 2005 they say that inside every fat person, is a thin person trying to get out thats becasue they've just eaten one ________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #57 October 31, 2005 Thanks. I'm not convinced by the virus theory (yet it can remain one). My main problem, as stated above, is that if it was viral, then by now it would have spread and been a world wide problem, and it most certainly does not seem to be........ unless poor people (say Africans) have built up an imunity, in which case the BioCompanies would have harvested the anti-viral cure by now and sold it for VAST amounts. Body diversity, on the other hand, explains far more but the bottom line is, you are what you eat... nothing more... nothing less. In therory, we can (if in the best of health and properly motivated) modify our bodies, within limits (no matter how hard I try, I'm never going to be a world class sprinter.... cannt happen). It has prooved to be a good thread and I have learnt that.. my way is not the only way and that people are different. Best Wishes, (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #58 October 31, 2005 It really makes sense to people who stay slim with relative ease that when you eat less and exercize more that you get the desired results. That's how it's always happened for them. And the bottom line is that it's TRUE! I mean, how many fat people do you see among those who have been deprived of food for any period of time??? But it's all the variables in between that are so easily, and conveniently, overlooked when people want to bash folks who are overweight. There are issues, like RhondaLea points out, of things like Thyroid disease. There are also just genetic differences in people. Many years ago there was a survival advantage for people who held onto those pounds. They're the ones who didn't dry up and blow away in times of famine. Well, nowadays we don't have famine, but some people still just hang onto pounds.... They could REALLY eat less and lose weight, but they'd feel HUNGRY....a LOT. Those who just eat less and exercize more and lose wieght don't have to really feel hunger in order to lose the desired weight....usually they just have to eat healthy. Anyone CAN lose weight by eating less and exercizing more. It's just that some people can eat a little less and exercize a little more to get a desired effect. Others have to eat a LOT less and exercize a LOT more to get the same effect. Then there's a phenomenon of the human body that makes it even MORE difficult to lose weight once you take off about 10-15%. If I take off that much and level off, it's fine, because I've never been obese enough to need to lose more. If you ARE that overwieght, and it's hard to lose 10-15%, then it's gonna be damn near impossible to lose more. Some people do it, but they're few and far between. Sure it CAN be done.... I think a lot of people, me included, are often annoyed when we see really obese people putting away incredibly large amounts of really unhealthy food. It's easy to generalize that to the rest of the overweight population.... It'd be a lot nicer, though, and more realistic, to understand that some folks just ain't got it so easy.... linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #59 October 31, 2005 QuoteMy main problem, as stated above, is that if it was viral, then by now it would have spread and been a world wide problem, That's a good point... But some viruses are endemic to specific places, so it's possible that this virus does not affect people in other parts of the world. I don't know... I seriously doubt that a virus is the main cause of obesity for most people, but I do think it's a possibility for some people. (Hmm, I'm posting in a thread that I said I was giving up on - I hate it when people do that. ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #60 November 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteMy main problem, as stated above, is that if it was viral, then by now it would have spread and been a world wide problem, That's a good point... But some viruses are endemic to specific places, so it's possible that this virus does not affect people in other parts of the world. I don't know... I seriously doubt that a virus is the main cause of obesity for most people, but I do think it's a possibility for some people. (Hmm, I'm posting in a thread that I said I was giving up on - I hate it when people do that. ) Yeah....but the whole virus thing does seem pretty far fetched. I'm surprised that someone was bold enough to put his name on that thought.... Peace~ linz (edited to fix the grammatical error....lol)-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
