Duckwater 0 #1 October 26, 2005 This is complete horseshit.....This coach said something completely true and something that should be taken as a compliment as opposed to a racial slur. Why is it wrong to point out different traits of sexes or races??? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9820853/ -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 October 26, 2005 QuoteAre we too sensitive? Are you calling me fat?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #3 October 26, 2005 the first thing that needs to be addressed is all this African American stuff? its almost as if the word "black" is now a racist word and nobody must mention it________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #4 October 26, 2005 Nope he was in the wrong. Blaming his loss on the fact that a team had more african-americans is wrong. he should have just said they were the better team with better athletes. Don't worry the Air Force will take care of this guy.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #5 October 26, 2005 You're not serious, are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #6 October 26, 2005 can anybody tell me why most 100 meter runners (the good ones, on steroids) are black?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #7 October 26, 2005 Quotecan anybody tell me why most 100 meter runners (the good ones, on steroids) are black? first...prove it, then I'll consider addressing your question. Seems to me most of your statements are based on your [adjective removed] perception, not reality. I'm not going to address imaginary claims. By the way....your Avatar is much more fitting now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #8 October 26, 2005 the last 2 olympic 100 meter finals have been contended by 16 black men, what more proof do you need?________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #9 October 26, 2005 A little more than an anecdotal example. How about some direct correlation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #10 October 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteAre we too sensitive? Are you calling me fat? I've seen you eat breakfast... "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #11 October 26, 2005 more direct correlation? what more direct correlation do you want, to what the guy in that article was saying? to me, he was implying that in general, black people run faster than white people... and athletics competitions show that statement to be true.... but for some politically correct bullshit reason, we're not allowed to make truthful statements about race anymore...its now considered racist to talk about the differences between races, even if you aren't making a derogitory comment. To the pc brigade, ANY comment about the diference between races is being racist________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #12 October 26, 2005 Quoteits now considered racist to talk about the differences between races, Ummm..that's practically the definition of racist. It's not something new. I know a whole hell of a lot of fat ass black guys that couldn't run a block. Hmmm, in fact I saw 16 of them in the past week. That must mean ALL black people are fat. When you categorize people based on a specific trait that happens to be dominant for their race, you're usually excluding (and insulting) a good portion of the members of that race that don't have that trait. Do you like it when someone lies about you? That's what it is like if you say something about a subset of a race and claim it applies to all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artistcalledian 0 #13 October 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteits now considered racist to talk about the differences between races, Ummm..that's practically the definition of racist. It's not something new. I know a whole hell of a lot of fat ass black guys that couldn't run a block. Hmmm, in fact I saw 16 of them in the past week. That must mean ALL black people are fat. When you categorize people based on a specific trait that happens to be dominant for their race, you're usually excluding (and insulting) a good portion of the members of that race that don't have that trait. Do you like it when someone lies about you? That's what it is like if you say something about a subset of a race and claim it applies to all of them. you've not answer my question..... why has the last 6 olympic 100 meters champions been black? why has the (that a know for certain, there may be more, i'll look into it) last 100 meters finals been run soley by black people? WHY ????????________________________________________ drive it like you stole it and f*ck the police Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #14 October 27, 2005 Because those guys were good. But to say all blacks run well is racist. Look up the definiton. ReBirth, you were wrong. It is not practically the defintion to say one race does something better than another, it IS the defintion. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #15 October 27, 2005 QuoteAre we too sensitive? Yes.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #16 October 27, 2005 First off, what do you mean by "we?" I'll say that there is a powerful and vocal minority of people who are far too sensitive about everything. "How dare he suggest that blacks are faster and stronger?" "How dare he call them 'Afro-Americans?'" SHouldn't it be us white/honkey/cracker/redneck/peckerwoods who are offended by this? After all, he's saying we're all slow. And yet, it's his "insensitive comments" towards blacks that cause the repirmand. You know, it's easy for some to say things than others. Kanye West can say, "President Bush doesn't care about black people." Yet, I'm a bigot if I were to suggest that we ask kanye's bitches and ho's whether he cares about them. People need to lighten the fuck up. I'm sick of this shit. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #17 October 27, 2005 What about "White men can't jump" Boofuckinghoo, I think i'm gonna cry. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #18 October 27, 2005 Man...I'll leave you guys to your klan rally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #19 October 27, 2005 QuoteI'll leave you guys to your klan rally. Here's one state's humorous response to the klan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #20 October 27, 2005 Quotethe first thing that needs to be addressed is all this African American stuff? its almost as if the word "black" is now a racist word and nobody must mention it I don't see that at all. In fact, most black people I know preferred to be called black instead of African American. Maybe it's different where you live but now anywhere I have lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #21 October 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteits now considered racist to talk about the differences between races, Ummm..that's practically the definition of racist. It's not something new. I know a whole hell of a lot of fat ass black guys that couldn't run a block. Hmmm, in fact I saw 16 of them in the past week. That must mean ALL black people are fat. When you categorize people based on a specific trait that happens to be dominant for their race, you're usually excluding (and insulting) a good portion of the members of that race that don't have that trait. Do you like it when someone lies about you? That's what it is like if you say something about a subset of a race and claim it applies to all of them. I think to some degree both of you, rebirth and hitler (artist something or other, I can't recall your screen name), are right... AND wrong.... first of all, not all blacks are african american. there are other parts of the world where people who have dark brown/black skin are from. many of them are offended when they are called "african americans." And what about whites from Africa? Do you call THEM African Americans? They most certainly exist! I know several who are American citizens! i can understand why some people object to being called "black" by "whites" but most "blacks" I know call each other "black" and some even call each other affectionately by the n-word. Why must "white people" call "black people" african american in order to not offend? While words can sometimes have symbolic meaning behind them (white, pure; black dirty), they are also just descriptors as well. also, artist-whoseewhatsit is somewhat correct in that SOME "african americans," esp. some who are REALLY from parts of Africa, have what appears to be a genetic propensity for incredibly fast running. A racist statement??? HARDLY!!! Esp. if there really is a genetic component. Why isn't the race card played by whites that basketball is populated by more blacks? I ran the Honolulu Marathon in 2002... Know the color of the skin of the top finishers? Hmmmm.... you're probably not guessing white... and you're probably not guessing they were from a continent other than Africa. What the f*ck does that have to do w/ being racist? Why isn't this looked at as an asset, as the gift it is??? Ya know, some races have a physiological condition that prohibits them from getting drunk... the race is from the orient. Would it be racist to comment on someone from that race's ability to drink a beer-gutted redneck under the table? Hell no. And it would be funny as hell to see a 70 pound oriental girl whip a redneck's 250 lbs ass that way too! Bet that would surprise Bubba big time. Also, related to the fat ass black comment... some segments of the black population have a genetic predisposition to hypertention, hyperlipidemia, obesity, diabetes, etc... A racist comment or fact? There are countless examples of how other races are different... and these differences can be considered assets, liabilities, etc... but simply commenting on them AS FACT or AS A GOOD, how does that = racism? Calling all blacks "fast runnin' niggers" = racist Calling all blacks "lazy fat ass welfare chasers" = racist Saying blacks from some parts of Africa (or wherever) are incredible runners =NOT= racist Saying many blacks WILL become obese / get sickel cell anemia = not racist Are we too sensitive? Hell yes. Including me. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #22 October 27, 2005 QuoteMan...I'll leave you guys to your klan rally. We're talking about athletes....not all of the human race. There are traits that occur more commonly among certain groups than another. Maybe, on the whole, black people are better athletes than whites. If you put the Irish National basketball team up against the Lakers, I'd be bettin' on us. Maybe it's culture or maybe it's something in the genes. Who knows???? But there's no doubt that there are differences among groups of people (grouped by whatever criteria you want). We southerners prob'ly eat a helluva a lot more catfish and hushpuppies than those damn yankees do. I'm not offended by the supposition that that's the case. It's true. I think that we women aren't as physically strong as men, on the whole, but I also think that we're a helluva lot smarter (but that's just me).... Here in Arkansas, there are a lot of people who ain't too bright with r e a l l y funny looking foreheads. In the hills in the wintertime it can be hard to wander far from home, and family trees don't always fork as they should. As an Arkansan, though, I have to look at it and say, "heh....damn hillbillies need to find some other way to relieve that particular pain...." But do I get offended? No. Even if it's said in a hateful tone. Know why? Because it's true....lol. Sometimes we just have to realize that the world ain't a homogenous heap. Be thankful that we're a colorful lot, and learn to be glad that maybe black athletes are faster than whites. Even laugh at the fact that women are smarter than men...heh, heh, heh.... People are waaaay to quick to be offended. If he said something that was acutally derogatory toward black people, then it'd at least make some sense. But he said that they were BETTER athletes. So what? Maybe, on the whole, black athletes ARE faster than white athletes. Can a person not make an observation without people getting offended? linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #23 October 27, 2005 Quote But do I get offended? No. Even if it's said in a hateful tone. Know why? Because it's true....lol. Good for you. The point everyone seems to be missing is that you don't get to decide what does or doesn't offend other people. No, you can't go through life without saying something that will offend somebody. But there are certain topics that everyone KNOWS will offend someone. If you don't want to be branded offensive, don't talk about them. If you don't mind being offensive, have at it, but don't wine about it when the "overly sensitive" people call you offensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #24 October 27, 2005 Nothing to see here, move along.. ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #25 October 27, 2005 Keyna is not a race. It is a country.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites