AlexCrowley 0 #1 October 24, 2005 Poll of Iraqis sponsored by the MOD '• Forty-five per cent of Iraqis believe attacks against British and American troops are justified - rising to 65 per cent in the British-controlled Maysan province; • 82 per cent are "strongly opposed" to the presence of coalition troops; • less than one per cent of the population believes coalition forces are responsible for any improvement in security; • 67 per cent of Iraqis feel less secure because of the occupation; • 43 per cent of Iraqis believe conditions for peace and stability have worsened; • 72 per cent do not have confidence in the multi-national forces. ' Before non-UKians start crying liberal newsmedia: The Telegraph is a staunchly conservative and pro-establishment newspaper. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #2 October 24, 2005 i read the Telegraph and it is a very conservative paper indeed. Those polls, well least the truth is out, no more lying, although i do not see why the Irawis arent grateful - they were oppressed under saddam, and now , agreed they have a new enemy, the terrorists, but will in the end , owever long that would be, have freedom. Allied soldiers have died to bring em it, they could be at least grateful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #3 October 24, 2005 Quotei read the Telegraph and it is a very conservative paper indeed. Those polls, well least the truth is out, no more lying, although i do not see why the Irawis arent grateful - they were oppressed under saddam, and now , agreed they have a new enemy, the terrorists, but will in the end , owever long that would be, have freedom. Allied soldiers have died to bring em it, they could be at least grateful. If you're going to be oppressed, maybe it's better to be oppressed by your own guy rather than an occupying invader.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #4 October 24, 2005 I fail to see how this can surprise anyone. There is not the country in the world the population of which would welcome a foreign occupation. Hypothetical example: Video footage of Tom Delay and GWB in hot gay love making unveils evidence that the Khmer Rouge were really on the White House payroll. At the same time it turns out that all the conspiracy theories of 9/11 were right. Understandably the noble Chinese and the Russians step up to the plate, invades the US and prepares to change the constitution to one "which is better for you". They could present all the rational arguments in the world as to why they were invading. Each and everyone of you would still see it as your duty to defend your country. (And please don't bash my analogy. I made it so ridiculous I could) A perhaps more realistic example is the feelings nurtured by many Hawaiians about the way it was... annexed into the US. Territoriality is a very strong feeling.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #5 October 24, 2005 Whoever said the "occupation" was oppression? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #6 October 24, 2005 If you have another nationality with military uniforms and big guns all over the place you might tend to feel occupied by another country. Oppressed? Well, many people will see it that way if another country is in control of theirs. And being told "we'll get out as soon as you do what we say" doesn't exactly foster a sense of independence. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #7 October 24, 2005 Technically, it is an occupation, agreed, whether it is meant in the term "deliberately staying to profit oneself", well that is open to interptation. And when the allies say things like that, it is to get the Iraqis thinking and practicing democracy - they would have to follow instructions from the USA and Uk because they would be still fighting or doing something against the democractic process. Of course that isn;t their fault, and this isn't a patronising view of them, but after 40 years of saddam who would know what democracy really was? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #8 October 24, 2005 QuoteI fail to see how this can surprise anyone. There is not the country in the world the population of which would welcome a foreign occupation. There is a large percentage of xenophobic nationalistic Americans that think the Iraqis should be on their knees servicing every US soldier in country because of how we "saved" their country. Watch the amount of 'ungrateful ingrate' style comments. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #9 October 25, 2005 QuoteWhoever said the "occupation" was oppression? 82% of Iraqis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #10 October 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhoever said the "occupation" was oppression? 82% of Iraqis. [sarcasm]They should do as they're told and thank us for occupying them. I'm sure it's great. [/sarcasm] Yeah yeah, Saddam was a bad guy but we haven't exactly showered paradise down on them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #11 October 25, 2005 >82% of Iraqis. What a bunch of america-hating, Bush-bashing liberals! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #12 October 25, 2005 QuoteWhoever said the "occupation" was oppression? I did. I take it as axiomatic. Can any Iraqi citizen come and go anyplace at any time in his/her own country without let or hindrance from an occupying army? I think NOT.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites