Vallerina 2 #26 October 21, 2005 Quote Not sex in the "classic" sex, i.e. sexual intercourse, but according to that defination, gays and lesbians don't have sex either. But wouldn't you agree there is a continuum of sexual behavior? In that sense, it most certainly IS sex... if it's not, I'd much rather exchange that at a greeting than shaking hands. That is a good point. It seems to be "wrong" to say that lesbians don't have sex. I guess it's like saying that a certain type of jump isn't a skydive, or that doesn't make a person a skydiver. I do see penetration as sex. Still, though, when people are asked for the number of people they've had sex with, very few include the "oral only" number. So, if most people don't include their oral sex partners in the "had sex" category, oral sex is not having sex.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #27 October 21, 2005 Well, it's called "oral SEX" so that seems to imply that it is sex. You can't get pregnant from it, but you can still pass STDs. I wouldn't be any more likely to have oral sex with someone than I would to have intercourse with them - to me, they seem equally intimate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #28 October 21, 2005 So, if most people don't include their oral sex partners in the "had sex" category, oral sex is not having sex.*** sorry sweetie, that logic is faulty... it's the same things as those silly school girls who wanted to remain "virgins" so they'd only go down but not "really" put out, as if an intact hymen was the only real criteria for what makes one a "virgin." There's the letter of the law and the spirit... Personally, when someone has asked me about how many partners I've had, if it's any of their business (which it usually isn't), I've always included anyone I've been ACTIVE with... it just seems more intellectually honest. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #29 October 21, 2005 QuoteI've always included anyone I've been ACTIVE with... Does gettin' your muthafuckingroove on with Internet cam whores count? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #30 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteNo, it's not sex. When someone asks you how many people you've had sex with, do you include those you've had only oral sex with? (I think this was once posted in TalkBack! ) I guess I'm old, but if I'm going to have sex with someone, it's not going to be only oral sex. so butt sex doesn't count either? But if you're having oral sex with someone, you're not having sex! You can't get pregnant from oral sex! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #31 October 21, 2005 QuoteWell, it's called "oral SEX" so that seems to imply that it is sex. You can't get pregnant from it, but you can still pass STDs. I wouldn't be any more likely to have oral sex with someone than I would to have intercourse with them - to me, they seem equally intimate. Well, they call it ice cream, but it's not ice!!!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #32 October 21, 2005 "But if you're having oral sex with someone, you're not having sex! You can't get pregnant from oral sex! " __________________________________________________ But then why is it called Oral SEX? It must be a form of sex?! BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #33 October 21, 2005 Sex is sex is sex...if it gives you a woody, makes you wet in the panties, your well on your way. LOL!!!! Bobbi P.S. See ReBirth I can talk about more then just welfare!A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #34 October 21, 2005 QuoteSex is sex is sex...if it gives you a woody Hell...then I have sex at least 9 times a day, with women that don't even know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #35 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteI've always included anyone I've been ACTIVE with... Does gettin' your muthafuckingroove on with Internet cam whores count? only w/ you and LM and TR2.0 -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #36 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteWell, it's called "oral SEX" so that seems to imply that it is sex. You can't get pregnant from it, but you can still pass STDs. I wouldn't be any more likely to have oral sex with someone than I would to have intercourse with them - to me, they seem equally intimate. Well, they call it ice cream, but it's not ice!!! mmmm... ice cream! -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #37 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteWell, it's called "oral SEX" so that seems to imply that it is sex. You can't get pregnant from it, but you can still pass STDs. I wouldn't be any more likely to have oral sex with someone than I would to have intercourse with them - to me, they seem equally intimate. Well, they call it ice cream, but it's not ice!!! Then why do they call it Sexual Transmitted Diseases? QuoteGonorrhoea Gonorrhoea is caused by Neisseria gonorrhoeae, a bacteria that grows and multiplies quickly in moist, warm areas of the body such as the cervix, urethra, mouth, or rectum. In women, the cervix is the most common site of infection. However, the disease can also spread to the uterus (womb) and fallopian tubes, causing pelvic inflammatory disease leading to infertility. Gonorrhoea is most commonly spread during genital contact, but can also be passed from the genitals of one partner to the throat of the other during oral sex. Gonorrhoea of the rectum can occur in people who practice anal intercourse. In pregnant women, gonorrhoea can be passed from an infected woman to her newborn infant during delivery if left untreated. http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/venerealdiseases.htm Note, they said Oral sex!May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #38 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteNo, it's not sex. When someone asks you how many people you've had sex with, do you include those you've had only oral sex with? (I think this was once posted in TalkBack! ) I guess I'm old, but if I'm going to have sex with someone, it's not going to be only oral sex. rl You don't know what "old" is, RL.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #39 October 21, 2005 >So is oral sex or not? This is about as silly as the argument about whether tandem students are 'real skydivers' or not. Or whether Budweiser or O'Douls are really beer. Or whether some guy is black because only one out of eight grandparents were black. The answer to all of which is - who cares? Call it whatever you want. If you use semantics to cheat on your SO and get away with it, defining the word more carefully is not going to fix the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #40 October 21, 2005 QuoteBut wouldn't you agree there is a continuum of sexual behavior? In that sense, it most certainly IS sex... Where does the continuum end? Kissing? Handshake? Is making eye contact sex? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #41 October 21, 2005 QuoteIs making eye contact sex? I feel like SUCH A SLUT now... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #42 October 21, 2005 QuoteWell, they call it ice cream, but it's not ice!!! But if the ice cream is used to, well, enhance the oral, is it sex, or merely dessert? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #43 October 21, 2005 QuoteYou don't know what "old" is C'mon Kallend. Don't feel so bad. I was only kidding when I said you were as old as Newton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #44 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou don't know what "old" is C'mon Kallend. Don't feel so bad. I was only kidding when I said you were as old as Newton. No he's really old, same as Mick Jagger.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #45 October 21, 2005 lol For Great Deals on Gear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #46 October 21, 2005 I said ....if you are going to quote me.... Sex is sex is sex, if it gives you a woody or makes you wet in the panties, then....YOU ARE WELL ON YOUR WAY. Note the last half of that statement. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #47 October 21, 2005 It was a joke.. And besides, half the time I can finish if I walk a little funny and get it to rub the right way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #48 October 21, 2005 BUT, we need something to argue about .....Heheheheheee..... Beside, as someone pointed out in another post, I like to hit hornets nests!!! Whack,whack!! BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #49 October 21, 2005 Don't worry, I will take everything you say tongue in cheek from now on. Tongue in cheek, that could be sexual,,,No? BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #50 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuoteBut wouldn't you agree there is a continuum of sexual behavior? In that sense, it most certainly IS sex... Where does the continuum end? Kissing? Handshake? Is making eye contact sex? i think the continuum STARTS at different places for different people, but from a physiological perspective, just touching another person on the shoulder, or even being physically near a certain other person can be a sexual event. I personally don't call hand holding sexual, and mild kissing either, but deeper kissing, petting, anything involving genitalia certainly is getting there -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites