mailin 0 #1 October 15, 2005 National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance Quote The National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance asserts that the primary goal of obesity research should be to improve the health and well being of fat people rather than on weight loss. Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron, or am I missing something? I didn't know such an organization existed until I saw a woman associated with this group arguing with a well respected doctor on MSNBC that being fat had no effect on ones health. "I'm going to be fat and happy like my 80 year old mother in law" I just checked out the 'hall of fame' on their website, where they list Mama Cass of the Mamas and the Papas as a 'famous fat person' - who happened to die of major heart failure due to her poor eating habits and lack of taking care of herself. But being fat had no obvious effect on her health - right? I hope I'm not the only one that finds it distrubing that a group of people are actually trying to debunk what the medical community has been saying for years now. But they must be winning considering, at least, the US is the most overweight its ever been. JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #2 October 15, 2005 You skinny people are so judgemental Edited to add: "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 October 15, 2005 I thought it was a joke, but it's not. Yes, I think you're right. It is an oxymoron. All that time, effort, pride...and their web-site has no pictures of their membership. Hmmm.... I guess the pics take up too much bandwidth and storage space on the servers ...Oops..weight, I found two pics here...http://www.naafa.org/internal/pics.html ...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #4 October 15, 2005 Ever hear of Nambla? The North American Man Boy Love Association. There are groups for everything, Even stuff that's so obviously wrong (cough...republican party...cough) . Never underestimate the stupidity of people, especially when thay're in a group. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #5 October 16, 2005 Yeah, and groups like ACLU, the Democrats...you know, the obviously wrong ones. P.S. If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck. Remeber, anorexia isn't always bad! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #6 October 16, 2005 QuoteP.S. If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck. Remeber, anorexia isn't always bad!/reply] I *so* need to start my foundation soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterblaster72 0 #7 October 16, 2005 It's for people who need to find solace in being fat and rationalize remaining that way for the long haul. Not a whole lot different than resorts for "plus-size" vacationers.. I went to the web site for "Freedom Paradise Resort" and found no marketing angle at all for the overweight crowd. It's probably because they want their web site to appeal to those of all shapes and sizes. Imagine if an unknowing and reasonably-sized person were to vacation there and the disgust and indignation that would result from seeing all those larders in bathing suits... Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites masterblaster72 0 #8 October 16, 2005 QuoteP.S. If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck. I'm glad to have found a statement of yours I can strongly agree with. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #9 October 16, 2005 If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck.*** If it wasnt for the fat chick I wouldnt have gotten laid that 4th, 5th, and 6th time!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diverborg 0 #10 October 17, 2005 As a good friend always told me..... Big girls need love too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #11 October 17, 2005 QuoteIt's for people who need to find solace in being fat and rationalize remaining that way for the long haul. Not a whole lot different than resorts for "plus-size" vacationers.. In other words, it is a resort for "Americans"? QuoteImagine if an unknowing and reasonably-sized person were to vacation there and the disgust and indignation that would result from seeing all those larders in bathing suits... Sort of like taking a vacation to Chicago, eh? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ViperPilot 0 #12 October 17, 2005 Hey, everyone's got something in common. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,150 #13 October 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt's for people who need to find solace in being fat and rationalize remaining that way for the long haul. Not a whole lot different than resorts for "plus-size" vacationers.. In other words, it is a resort for "Americans"? QuoteImagine if an unknowing and reasonably-sized person were to vacation there and the disgust and indignation that would result from seeing all those larders in bathing suits... Sort of like taking a vacation to Chicago, eh? Hey, at least we're going to the World Series! "Second prize is 2 weeks in Philadelphia". W.C. Fields... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ViperPilot 0 #14 October 17, 2005 Ok rookie, here's to the fat chick...they sure are fun to ride, of course until your friends find out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #15 October 17, 2005 There are advantages to dating fat people They're shade in the summer, and a warm water bed in the winter I should know, I resemble that remark "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #16 October 17, 2005 Riding a fat chick is like riding a Jap bike. Feels alright... untill your Bros find out."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #17 October 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteP.S. If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck. Remeber, anorexia isn't always bad![;) I *so* need to start my foundation soon. Well, it's just as scary on the other end .... there's a whole pro-anorexia and pro-bulimia movement that exists. http://womensissues.about.com/cs/proanorexia/i/blproanorexia.htm Not healthy either. Coming from a former very "fat chick" (and someone who probably is still considered a "fat chick" by a lot of peoples' standards), I will say that NAAFA is a crock. I thought it then, I think it now. Maybe, just maybe, it started out with a good premise, that we as a society really do send the message that there is only one body type that is healthy. Not true, and combating that is probably a positive thing. But to argue that obesity is a healthy choice in the long term? Wrong. Trust me. I was 32 years old and weighed over 300 lbs and it was about the farthest thing from healthy. I've lost well over 100 lbs now, and am the healthiest I've ever been. However, the anger (yes, anger) and hatred and judgment that I'm seeing on this thread (and lots of other threads on DZ.com, for that matter) kind of explains why NAAFA feels it needs to exist. Truth be told, I hated myself when I was obese, too. The hate from the outside didn't help my case. However, I don't need NAAFA telling me it's a healthy lifestyle, because it wasn't and it isn't. I had an eating disorder of a different kind (I suppose I still do, I just know how to control it now), and I had to figure out how to deal with it. It's a little more complicated than "eat less and exercise more" but ultimately that's what it comes down to. The obesity epidemic in this country is being caused and perpetuated by a complicated mix of factors, including agricultural policy (which directly conflicts with our public health policy), rampant consumerism (chain restaurants continually upping portion size to where it becomes the new "norm"), lifestyle changes (TV, internet, suburbs), personal choices, etc. It's not an easy nut to crack but organizations like NAAFA ain't helping. I'd buy for my first (intentional) SC post but everyone knows it's fattening. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ViperPilot 0 #18 October 18, 2005 Beer's not fattening, it's probably the best thing you can put in your body...well except for 100 proof liquor. Either way, everyone should drink more beer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,589 #19 October 18, 2005 Bravo! Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
masterblaster72 0 #7 October 16, 2005 It's for people who need to find solace in being fat and rationalize remaining that way for the long haul. Not a whole lot different than resorts for "plus-size" vacationers.. I went to the web site for "Freedom Paradise Resort" and found no marketing angle at all for the overweight crowd. It's probably because they want their web site to appeal to those of all shapes and sizes. Imagine if an unknowing and reasonably-sized person were to vacation there and the disgust and indignation that would result from seeing all those larders in bathing suits... Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #8 October 16, 2005 QuoteP.S. If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck. I'm glad to have found a statement of yours I can strongly agree with. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #9 October 16, 2005 If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck.*** If it wasnt for the fat chick I wouldnt have gotten laid that 4th, 5th, and 6th time!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverborg 0 #10 October 17, 2005 As a good friend always told me..... Big girls need love too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 October 17, 2005 QuoteIt's for people who need to find solace in being fat and rationalize remaining that way for the long haul. Not a whole lot different than resorts for "plus-size" vacationers.. In other words, it is a resort for "Americans"? QuoteImagine if an unknowing and reasonably-sized person were to vacation there and the disgust and indignation that would result from seeing all those larders in bathing suits... Sort of like taking a vacation to Chicago, eh? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #12 October 17, 2005 Hey, everyone's got something in common. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #13 October 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt's for people who need to find solace in being fat and rationalize remaining that way for the long haul. Not a whole lot different than resorts for "plus-size" vacationers.. In other words, it is a resort for "Americans"? QuoteImagine if an unknowing and reasonably-sized person were to vacation there and the disgust and indignation that would result from seeing all those larders in bathing suits... Sort of like taking a vacation to Chicago, eh? Hey, at least we're going to the World Series! "Second prize is 2 weeks in Philadelphia". W.C. Fields... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #14 October 17, 2005 Ok rookie, here's to the fat chick...they sure are fun to ride, of course until your friends find out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #15 October 17, 2005 There are advantages to dating fat people They're shade in the summer, and a warm water bed in the winter I should know, I resemble that remark "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #16 October 17, 2005 Riding a fat chick is like riding a Jap bike. Feels alright... untill your Bros find out."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #17 October 18, 2005 QuoteQuoteP.S. If you're really fat, it's your fault and you suck. Remeber, anorexia isn't always bad![;) I *so* need to start my foundation soon. Well, it's just as scary on the other end .... there's a whole pro-anorexia and pro-bulimia movement that exists. http://womensissues.about.com/cs/proanorexia/i/blproanorexia.htm Not healthy either. Coming from a former very "fat chick" (and someone who probably is still considered a "fat chick" by a lot of peoples' standards), I will say that NAAFA is a crock. I thought it then, I think it now. Maybe, just maybe, it started out with a good premise, that we as a society really do send the message that there is only one body type that is healthy. Not true, and combating that is probably a positive thing. But to argue that obesity is a healthy choice in the long term? Wrong. Trust me. I was 32 years old and weighed over 300 lbs and it was about the farthest thing from healthy. I've lost well over 100 lbs now, and am the healthiest I've ever been. However, the anger (yes, anger) and hatred and judgment that I'm seeing on this thread (and lots of other threads on DZ.com, for that matter) kind of explains why NAAFA feels it needs to exist. Truth be told, I hated myself when I was obese, too. The hate from the outside didn't help my case. However, I don't need NAAFA telling me it's a healthy lifestyle, because it wasn't and it isn't. I had an eating disorder of a different kind (I suppose I still do, I just know how to control it now), and I had to figure out how to deal with it. It's a little more complicated than "eat less and exercise more" but ultimately that's what it comes down to. The obesity epidemic in this country is being caused and perpetuated by a complicated mix of factors, including agricultural policy (which directly conflicts with our public health policy), rampant consumerism (chain restaurants continually upping portion size to where it becomes the new "norm"), lifestyle changes (TV, internet, suburbs), personal choices, etc. It's not an easy nut to crack but organizations like NAAFA ain't helping. I'd buy for my first (intentional) SC post but everyone knows it's fattening. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #18 October 18, 2005 Beer's not fattening, it's probably the best thing you can put in your body...well except for 100 proof liquor. Either way, everyone should drink more beer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #19 October 18, 2005 Bravo! Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites