SkydiveStMarys 0 #1 October 12, 2005 that before we helped out Pakistan by giving them 50 million. (or was it billion?) our own were taken care of in the gulf coast region. I'm sure we'll here about it in the news soon enough if there is any grumbling. Just thinkin' out loud, BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #2 October 12, 2005 Yeah, those Pakistani and Kashmiri kids are worth so much less than American lives.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #3 October 12, 2005 It's all about priorities.... IMO, putting either first, both have things to be said for it.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #4 October 12, 2005 i think she meant that the president has an OBLIGATION to help AMERICANS, not the rest of the world. if we can, great; if not, maybe next year. of course, there's always the vast book full of private charities that americans donate to."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #5 October 12, 2005 Yeah they are worthy of help, BUT, our country should be put on the top of the list when it comes to getting OUR affairs in order FIRST!! What about our kids that need help?? If we have $ "left over", which I highly doubt, then yeah, by all means help another country, but help us first!! Get us back to some kind of normalicy. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #6 October 12, 2005 absofuckinlutely! BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #7 October 12, 2005 Quotethat before we helped out Pakistan by giving them 50 million. (or was it billion?) our own were taken care of in the gulf coast region. I'm sure we'll here about it in the news soon enough if there is any grumbling. Just thinkin' out loud, Bobbi It is the right thing to do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 October 12, 2005 Quotethat before we helped out Pakistan by giving them 50 million. (or was it billion?) our own were taken care of in the gulf coast region. I'm sure we'll here about it in the news soon enough if there is any grumbling. Just thinkin' out loud, Bobbi It would be nice if the Prez had a choice in the matter but since he's damned if he helps and damned if he doesn't, he really has no choice. By not helping, they will hate us even more and he will be creating more terrorists etc, etc ..... or something like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #9 October 12, 2005 QuoteQuotethat before we helped out Pakistan by giving them 50 million. (or was it billion?) our own were taken care of in the gulf coast region. I'm sure we'll here about it in the news soon enough if there is any grumbling. Just thinkin' out loud, Bobbi It would be nice if the Prez had a choice in the matter but since he's damned if he helps and damned if he doesn't, he really has no choice. By not helping, they will hate us even more and he will be creating more terrorists etc, etc ..... or something like that. I was under the impression that Pakistan was an ally in the "war on terror".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 October 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotethat before we helped out Pakistan by giving them 50 million. (or was it billion?) our own were taken care of in the gulf coast region. I'm sure we'll here about it in the news soon enough if there is any grumbling. Just thinkin' out loud, Bobbi It would be nice if the Prez had a choice in the matter but since he's damned if he helps and damned if he doesn't, he really has no choice. By not helping, they will hate us even more and he will be creating more terrorists etc, etc ..... or something like that. I was under the impression that Pakistan was an ally in the "war on terror". Do you like sauce on your Chimichanga? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #11 October 12, 2005 QuoteYeah, those Pakistani and Kashmiri kids are worth so much less than American lives. The ACLU would be all over that comment if a public official said it. Yeah those American kids are worth so much less than Pakistani and Kashmiri lives. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Nice thing about public service - can't win, why try? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #12 October 12, 2005 Yeah, it maybe the "right thing to do", BUT, who helped us out?? We maybe the "richest country" in the world but who does "right" by us and returns the favor? BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #13 October 12, 2005 You're welcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #14 October 12, 2005 QuoteYeah, it maybe the "right thing to do", BUT, who helped us out?? http://www.embassyofpakistan.org/news157.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #15 October 12, 2005 Quotehttp://www.embassyofpakistan.org/news157.php I believe the current score is: Pakistan - 1,500,000 SkydiveStMarys - Zero!Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #16 October 12, 2005 Lots of countries returned the favor and helped out after Katrina. Unfortunately, it wasn't on the news much. There were also other offers of aid that didn't get used. Here's a list of some countries and what they gave. Afghanistan $100,000 Albania $300,000 Armenia $100,000 Australia $7.6 million, tarps, camping equipment, beds Azerbaijan $500,000 Bahamas $50,000 Bahrain $5 million Bangladesh $1 million Belgium Medical/logistics teams, generators, water pumps Bosnia $6000 Cambodia $20,000 Canada $5 million, 2 helicopters, 32-person rescue team, evacuation flights, medical supplies China $5.1 million cash and relief supplies, 1000 tents, 600 generators Cyprus $50,000 Djibouti $50,000 Equatorial Guinea $500,000 Finland Search-and-rescue team; 3 logistics specialists France Tents, tarps, MREs, water treatment supplies, cleaning equipment Gabon $500,000 Georgia $50,000 Germany MREs, high speed pumps, forensic experts Greece 2 cruise ships Hungary $5,000 Iceland $500,000 India $5 million, 3000 personal hygene kits, blankets, sheets, tarps Iraq $1,000,000 cash Ireland $1,240,000 cash Israel Tents, first-aid kits, baby formula Italy Generators, water pumps/purifiers, tents, med supplies Japan $200,000 cash and $844,000 in relief supplies, $1.5 million in private donations. Kenya $100,000 Kuwait $400 million in oil, $100 million cash Malaysia $1 million Maldives $25,000 cash Mauritania $200,000 Mexico Transport vehicles, 1 helicopter, ambulance and medical teams, 45 truckloads of supplies Mongolia $50,000 cash Morocco $500,000 Nepal $25,000 cash Netherlands Levee inspection team to assist Army Corps of Engineers, water pumps, frigate New Zealand $1.4 million cash, search and rescue teams Nigeria $1 million cash Norway $1.54 million in relief supplies Oman $15 million Pakistan $1 million, supplies Palau $50,000, plus $50,000 in private donations Papua New Guinea $10,000 Qatar $100 million cash Republic of Korea $30 million cash, supplies Russia air transport, generators, tents, blankets, water, pumps, supplies Sao Tome and Principe $18,000 Saudi Arabia $5 million from Aramco, $250,000 from AGFUND Singapore 4 helicopters Sri Lanka $25,000 cash Taiwan $2 million cash, medical supplies Thailand Forensic experts, blankets and food UAE $100 million cash Uganda $200,000 UK relief supplies Venezuela $1 million Vietnam $100,000 Yemen $100,000 Source: State Department Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #17 October 12, 2005 QuoteYeah, it maybe the "right thing to do", BUT, who helped us out?? We maybe the "richest country" in the world but who does "right" by us and returns the favor? Bobbi Are you a right winger by any chance?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #18 October 12, 2005 Quotei think she meant that the president has an OBLIGATION to help AMERICANS, not the rest of the world. Does he? I thought America was all about personal responsibility. Quoteof course, there's always the vast book full of private charities that americans donate to. Well why are they donating to charities that help foreigners instead of honest American folk? Not very patriotic of them. The bottom line is the disaster victims in NO have, are and are going to recieve far far greater amounts of relief than those in India, Pakistan and Kashmir. Further more the money going to those countries won't be deducted from domestic efforts so it won't have the slightest effect on the hurricane victims. The original post seems to me like 'They're different from us, so they don't deserve any help'.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #19 October 12, 2005 >Yeah, it maybe the "right thing to do", BUT, who helped us out?? Thailand India Sri Lanka Indonesia The UN WHO Nigeria China Japan India Singapore South Korea Afghanistan Taiwan Cuba Mexico Venezuela Australia France Germany Italy Russia Spain Sweden Quatar Iran Haiti Honduras The Dominican Republic Switzerland El Salvador Educador Guatemala Jordan Lithuania Paraguay Slovakia Turkey Philippines Armenia Azerbaijan China Honduras Hungary And about 50 other organizations/countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #20 October 12, 2005 Just to be fair - Yeah, there was help, but it could have been more..or earlier.. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #21 October 12, 2005 >Yeah, there was help, but it could have been more..or earlier . . . True. Had Venezuela invaded a week before, they could have put in place relief workers very quickly. Damn those peace-loving lazy bastards! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #22 October 12, 2005 Yeah, BUT, what if there were no Pakistani and Pakistani-American, would they still have helped, probably not. That help they gave had a "clause" on it though..... BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #23 October 12, 2005 No , I am not. BobbiA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #24 October 12, 2005 QuoteYeah, BUT, what if there were no Pakistani and Pakistani-American, would they still have helped, probably not. That help they gave had a "clause" on it though..... Bobbi Yeah, that certainly explains the REST of the countries. yes we often give more, because we have more. But you are simply wrong to say that no one ever offers to help us.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #25 October 12, 2005 > Yeah, BUT, what if there were no Pakistani and Pakistani-American, >would they still have helped, probably not You are correct. If there were no Pakistanis then Pakistanis could not have helped. (Speaking of which, where were the offers of help from Mars? Sister planet indeed.) >That help they gave had a "clause" on it though..... As does ours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
