JohnRich 4 #1 October 10, 2005 In the news: Report adds fuel to gun registry debateMost murder guns in Canada are never registered with the Canadian Firearms Centre, according to a new Statistics Canada report. The new study - a version of which reported over the summer that Canada's murder rate jumped 12% in 2004 after a three-decade slide - says that registration information on murder guns was "unknown" to police in more than half of homicides reported between 1997 and 2004 where the gun was recovered. Gun registry opponents say that proves the registry - two years and more than a billion tax dollars later - is a failure. "First, 65% of firearms homicides involve handguns. We've had a handgun registry for decades, so obviously it didn't work either," said Dennis Young, a researcher... "But look at who's actually committing murders. Two-thirds of murderers - and half of their adult victims - already had criminal histories. The federal government decided with the registry to go after law-abiding gun owners, when the people doing the killing are overwhelmingly criminals who'd never think to register their guns. What a waste." And the weapon of choice for most murders is still the humble knife. Stabbings accounted for one-third of all killings in 2004... Guns dispatched only a quarter of all homicide victims. Cukier pointed out that the majority of handguns used to kill in Canada are smuggled up from the States - something the registry wasn't designed to address...Full Story Points of interest: - Criminals don't register their guns. - Only law-abiding people register their guns, and they aren't the problem. - Gun registration didn't stop murders from increasing. - The black market will always fill the criminal need and defeat gun control laws. - Registration cost a billion dollars - money which could have been better used for other police services to really fight crime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #2 October 10, 2005 QuoteMost murder guns in Canada are never registered with the Canadian Firearms Centre, according to a new Statistics Canada report. Oh my God, John! Say it isn't so! Are we to believe that criminals aren't following the law? I am shocked! Can you believe the nerve of these people? Well? Can you? QuoteRegistration cost a billion dollars - money which could have been better used for other police services to really fight crime. Alright, John. Enough of the silly talk, OK? I mean, really, invest the money where it might make a difference? That's just crazy! Now stop with all this crazy talk, John. MmmK? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #3 October 10, 2005 Yes please, can we have more gun control? The more we have, the more criminals will obey them! Idiots... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #4 October 11, 2005 Nothing like getting lectured by Americans on the effectiveness of murder prevention schemes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #5 October 11, 2005 Well you don't see gun control in America helping our atrocious gun murder stats. Let the good citizens defend themselves and I bet we see a drop then. Point being, criminals give 2 shits about gun laws; all the laws do is restrict law-abiding citizens from fully protecting themselves. It's idiocy at its best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #6 October 11, 2005 The report also states: QuoteAnd the weapon of choice for most murders is still the humble knife. Stabbings accounted for one-third of all killings in 2004 - 205 murders, 63 more than in 2003 and the highest number of stabbing homicides in over a decade. Guns dispatched only a quarter of all homicide victims. So they HAVE gun control. And they DONT HAVE knife control. And there were MORE stabbings than there were shootings. Sounds like they need to introduce knife control to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites beowulf 1 #7 October 11, 2005 oh myyy God think of all the unregistered knives out there. It's gonna take at least 2 Billion dollars to get them all registered. And what about all the material out there that could be used to make knives. I think those need to controlled also. Anyone wanting to buy any type of material that could possibly be used to make a knife should have to register with the Federal Gov. and show in writing just how they plan to make use of the material. Well it just makes sense. The more registered knives the less stabbings there will be. Right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #8 October 11, 2005 At least in Canada we can run away from danger..... unlike the kids in Florida "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #9 October 11, 2005 Why should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #10 October 11, 2005 QuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #11 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #12 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! Hey, it wasn't all bad news, at least it got the White House burned down.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #13 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! Hey, it wasn't all bad news, at least it got the White House burned down. Yes, as a Canadian, I smile and joyfully sing the American national anthem which commemorates the burning of the White House. Its a great song and singing it a hockey games is fun. .... its still early... maybe there is hope."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #14 October 11, 2005 QuoteWho wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. If global warming does move the grainbelt north, it will be looking pretty attractive. Though it might be a slow invasion via semi legal emmigration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #15 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteWho wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! If we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. But lucky for you, it's too darned cold up there, and nobody from down here really wants to live up there. But there sure are a lot of Canadians that enjoy invading the United States during the winter, to occupy Florida... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #16 October 11, 2005 QuoteIf we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA, BWAAHAHAHAHAAAAA, BWAHAHAHAAAA, [strut, strut, strut, moonwalk} (That would be the canadian's laughing at us for taking Quebec off of their hands.) The real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #17 October 11, 2005 QuoteBut there sure are a lot of Canadians that enjoy invading the United States during the winter, to occupy Florida... We'll trade you ALL of Quebec (a big place with resources and some say culture) for little old Florida (funny shaped, looks like a dying dick, has to be re-built every couple of years due to hurricanes). Its a good deal, really BTW, our military may be out numbered and poorly equipped but you know, they really are tough and brave bastards. They have to be... because they are out numbered and poorly equipped, and they know it. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tso-d_chris 0 #18 October 11, 2005 QuoteWe'll trade you ALL of Quebec (a big place with resources and some say culture) for little old Florida (funny shaped, looks like a dying dick, has to be re-built every couple of years due to hurricanes). Okay, but you have to pay shipping! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #19 October 11, 2005 Quote Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. Well, we've got this thing going with Denmark over Hans Island up between Elsemere Island and Greenland. Stop laughing, the've got an army. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #20 October 11, 2005 QuoteThe real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? We'd notice the higher murder rate (bringing the thread back on topic). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #21 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? We'd notice the higher murder rate (bringing the thread back on topic). And we'd notice a higher infant mortality rate (they don't only murder grown-ups down there... they kill babies too!)"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #22 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteIf we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA, BWAAHAHAHAHAAAAA, BWAHAHAHAAAA, [strut, strut, strut, moonwalk} (That would be the canadian's laughing at us for taking Quebec off of their hands.) The real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? The Canadians? US citizens? Europeans? Thx for the moonwalk: Right now, I see (and hear) Michael J. dance and dance ..... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #23 October 11, 2005 >If we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. It would probably go almost as smoothly as our liberations of Iraq and Vietnam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ReBirth 0 #24 October 11, 2005 The US has been pressuring the Canadian government lately to stem the tide of marijuana that comes across the border from Canada into the US. Saw an article where an Ontario politician suggested that they put as much effort into stopping the scourge of grass as the US put into stopping illegal guns from crossing the other way. (In other words, not a whole hell of a lot). What would you rather have coming into your country? Illegal marijuana, or illegal guns? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites IanHarrop 43 #25 October 11, 2005 QuoteThe US has been pressuring the Canadian government lately to stem the tide of marijuana that comes across the border from Canada into the US. Saw an article where an Ontario politician suggested that they put as much effort into stopping the scourge of grass as the US put into stopping illegal guns from crossing the other way. (In other words, not a whole hell of a lot). What would you rather have coming into your country? Illegal marijuana, or illegal guns? Nobody really wants that crappy Ontario grass... on the other hand B.C. bud is a quality product. (of course I don't know anything about this first hand... its all rumour...) People will even go to the effort of building tunnels to get B.C. Bud into the USA. 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beowulf 1 #7 October 11, 2005 oh myyy God think of all the unregistered knives out there. It's gonna take at least 2 Billion dollars to get them all registered. And what about all the material out there that could be used to make knives. I think those need to controlled also. Anyone wanting to buy any type of material that could possibly be used to make a knife should have to register with the Federal Gov. and show in writing just how they plan to make use of the material. Well it just makes sense. The more registered knives the less stabbings there will be. Right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #8 October 11, 2005 At least in Canada we can run away from danger..... unlike the kids in Florida "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #9 October 11, 2005 Why should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #10 October 11, 2005 QuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #11 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #12 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! Hey, it wasn't all bad news, at least it got the White House burned down.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #13 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhy should the Canadian public be in more danger than the Canadian military, which has some guns but no bullets Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! Hey, it wasn't all bad news, at least it got the White House burned down. Yes, as a Canadian, I smile and joyfully sing the American national anthem which commemorates the burning of the White House. Its a great song and singing it a hockey games is fun. .... its still early... maybe there is hope."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 October 11, 2005 QuoteWho wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. If global warming does move the grainbelt north, it will be looking pretty attractive. Though it might be a slow invasion via semi legal emmigration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #15 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteWho wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. You Americans won't try that again... not after we whooped your butts the last time!!! If we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. But lucky for you, it's too darned cold up there, and nobody from down here really wants to live up there. But there sure are a lot of Canadians that enjoy invading the United States during the winter, to occupy Florida... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #16 October 11, 2005 QuoteIf we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA, BWAAHAHAHAHAAAAA, BWAHAHAHAAAA, [strut, strut, strut, moonwalk} (That would be the canadian's laughing at us for taking Quebec off of their hands.) The real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #17 October 11, 2005 QuoteBut there sure are a lot of Canadians that enjoy invading the United States during the winter, to occupy Florida... We'll trade you ALL of Quebec (a big place with resources and some say culture) for little old Florida (funny shaped, looks like a dying dick, has to be re-built every couple of years due to hurricanes). Its a good deal, really BTW, our military may be out numbered and poorly equipped but you know, they really are tough and brave bastards. They have to be... because they are out numbered and poorly equipped, and they know it. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #18 October 11, 2005 QuoteWe'll trade you ALL of Quebec (a big place with resources and some say culture) for little old Florida (funny shaped, looks like a dying dick, has to be re-built every couple of years due to hurricanes). Okay, but you have to pay shipping! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #19 October 11, 2005 Quote Who wants to invade Canada? It's not 1812 any more. Well, we've got this thing going with Denmark over Hans Island up between Elsemere Island and Greenland. Stop laughing, the've got an army. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #20 October 11, 2005 QuoteThe real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? We'd notice the higher murder rate (bringing the thread back on topic). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #21 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? We'd notice the higher murder rate (bringing the thread back on topic). And we'd notice a higher infant mortality rate (they don't only murder grown-ups down there... they kill babies too!)"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #22 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteIf we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA, BWAAHAHAHAHAAAAA, BWAHAHAHAAAA, [strut, strut, strut, moonwalk} (That would be the canadian's laughing at us for taking Quebec off of their hands.) The real question is really would anyone notice if the two countries did merge? The Canadians? US citizens? Europeans? Thx for the moonwalk: Right now, I see (and hear) Michael J. dance and dance ..... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #23 October 11, 2005 >If we wanted it, we'd take it, and you would be helpless to stop us. It would probably go almost as smoothly as our liberations of Iraq and Vietnam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReBirth 0 #24 October 11, 2005 The US has been pressuring the Canadian government lately to stem the tide of marijuana that comes across the border from Canada into the US. Saw an article where an Ontario politician suggested that they put as much effort into stopping the scourge of grass as the US put into stopping illegal guns from crossing the other way. (In other words, not a whole hell of a lot). What would you rather have coming into your country? Illegal marijuana, or illegal guns? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 43 #25 October 11, 2005 QuoteThe US has been pressuring the Canadian government lately to stem the tide of marijuana that comes across the border from Canada into the US. Saw an article where an Ontario politician suggested that they put as much effort into stopping the scourge of grass as the US put into stopping illegal guns from crossing the other way. (In other words, not a whole hell of a lot). What would you rather have coming into your country? Illegal marijuana, or illegal guns? Nobody really wants that crappy Ontario grass... on the other hand B.C. bud is a quality product. (of course I don't know anything about this first hand... its all rumour...) People will even go to the effort of building tunnels to get B.C. Bud into the USA. "Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
