SpeedRacer 1 #1 September 27, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4285394.stm For whatever it may be worth, it's nice to hear some good news for a change. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmontana 0 #2 September 27, 2005 i'd really like to get excited about that too but it just seems that for every number 2 or 3 guy we get there are many more waiting to take their spot. I mean didn't we get everyone from the deck of cards and we're still fighting. No matter how many we kill or capture it won't make a difference. the only hope we have is that the iraqi's will be able to take care of it themselvs someday ___________________________________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #3 September 27, 2005 I know what you're saying. But the problem is you can never know what extra attacks would have happened if you didn't get this or that particular important Al Quaeda figure out of there. Similar public ambivalence happened when we got Khalid Sheikh Muhammed, even though he's the one who actually engineered the 9/11 attacks. but who know what would have happened if he had NOT been picked up. same with that other Al Quaeda general with the skin condition they picked up earlier this summer. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #4 September 27, 2005 QuoteSimilar public ambivalence happened when we got Khalid Sheikh Muhammed, even though he's the one who actually engineered the 9/11 attacks. I thought using commercial jetliners as missiles to destroy important buildings was the idea of Tom Clancy. He may not have condoned it, but he did write about that very scenario in Debt of Honor and Executive Orders long before 9/11. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #5 September 27, 2005 ... seems we're always gettin' #2 or #3... how about #1? I know it's hard, but damn... it's like the guy is invisible. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #6 September 27, 2005 Quote... seems we're always gettin' #2 or #3... how about #1? I know it's hard, but damn... it's like the guy is invisible. Related stories: CBS News Drudge...the latest first-hand information about Osama bin Laden believe he is hiding with a small cadre in Afghanistan and is no longer an effective leader for the terrorist group... I think now [bin Laden] is being protected or assisted by a very short number, which keeps his profile very low, the counter-terrorism head of Pakistan's Intelligence Service, ISI, tells... his forces have diminished bin Laden's power by capturing 594 al-Qaeda members and crippling the group's communications, including infiltrating their courier network. We have been able to effectively break the communications network from top to bottom. We do not allow these people to communicate with each other... Finding bin Laden doesn't matter at this point... If [bin Laden] is hiding in a hole, neither the electronic nor the human intelligence can find him... Is it all that important to find him? If he's taken out tomorrow, his ideology is not going to come to an end. I don't think that it's important if he is captured. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #7 September 27, 2005 QuoteQuote... seems we're always gettin' #2 or #3... how about #1? I know it's hard, but damn... it's like the guy is invisible. Related stories: CBS News Drudge...the latest first-hand information about Osama bin Laden believe he is hiding with a small cadre in Afghanistan and is no longer an effective leader for the terrorist group... I think now [bin Laden] is being protected or assisted by a very short number, which keeps his profile very low, the counter-terrorism head of Pakistan's Intelligence Service, ISI, tells... his forces have diminished bin Laden's power by capturing 594 al-Qaeda members and crippling the group's communications, including infiltrating their courier network. We have been able to effectively break the communications network from top to bottom. We do not allow these people to communicate with each other... Finding bin Laden doesn't matter at this point... If [bin Laden] is hiding in a hole, neither the electronic nor the human intelligence can find him... Is it all that important to find him? If he's taken out tomorrow, his ideology is not going to come to an end. I don't think that it's important if he is captured. Yo, man. Ref.: Mission accomplished. It only needs to believe.... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #8 September 27, 2005 > I don't think that it's important if he is captured. Exactly. He's not the enemy. Who cares if he killed 3000 americans? We have bigger fish to fry, like all those damned Iraqi judges who have the gall to try to arrest OUR soldiers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #9 September 27, 2005 Quote> I don't think that it's important if he is captured. Exactly. He's not the enemy. Who cares if he killed 3000 americans? We have bigger fish to fry, like all those damned Iraqi judges who have the gall to try to arrest OUR soldiers! Pre tell...which Iraqi judges are trying to have our soldiers arrested?So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #10 September 27, 2005 >which Iraqi judges are trying to have our soldiers arrested? ------------------------------ BAGHDAD, Iraq - An Iraqi judge said Saturday that he reissued arrest warrants for two British soldiers captured by Iraqi police and who - with the help of the British military - escaped custody. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/krwashbureau/20050924/ts_krwashbureau/_usiraq_1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #11 September 28, 2005 Well, they were not OUR soldiers, per se... but I'd think we Americans might have tried some diplomacy to free them if they were ours... or not..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #12 September 28, 2005 The guy's a figurehead and nothing more. Just like the statement above says, his ideology will continue no matter what his status. In fact, I could see those jihadist using his capture or death as a reason for rallying and trying to do something even greater "for him" or some shit like that. They're all sacks of shit and all need to be killed, even if it's one by one and out of order. Don't care what # they are, just care if they're 6 ft under. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #13 September 28, 2005 > The guy's a figurehead and nothing more. Who is? The Iraqi judge or the british soldier? Were you intending to answer someone else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #14 September 28, 2005 Oh sorry, I was talking about Bin Laden. QuoteExactly. He's not the enemy. Who cares if he killed 3000 americans? We have bigger fish to fry, like all those damned Iraqi judges who have the gall to try to arrest OUR soldiers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #15 September 28, 2005 Quote how about #1? I know it's hard, but damn... it's like the guy is invisible. Or wearing a turbine, perhaps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #16 September 28, 2005 Quote.. seems we're always gettin' #2 or #3... how about #1? I know it's hard, but damn... it's like the guy is invisible. well, we did get Saddam. He was a #1. now we got other #1s to deal with. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #17 September 28, 2005 Quote> I don't think that it's important if he is captured. Exactly. He's not the enemy. Who cares if he killed 3000 americans? We have bigger fish to fry, like all those damned Iraqi judges who have the gall to try to arrest OUR soldiers! Um, if you read the link, you would have noted that the quote to which you are responding is from a Pakistani General... But hey, don't let me or the facts get in the way of yet another good 'ol Bush bashing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflysteve 0 #18 September 29, 2005 Oh right on Americans try diplomacy in that position! You would have gone in all guns blazing,we got our guys out quick and simple with minimum bloodshed. After hurricane Katrina your shooting your own people for looting and tv footage has cops helping themselves! Our guys are stuck in Iraq just like yours,its a shame we cant sort out problems in our home countries before telling the rest of the world how to sort out their problems,luckily Blair hasnt got much longer and neither has Bush then the twins can go on the speech circuit and write books!Swooping, huh? I love that stuff ... all the flashing lights and wailing sirens ... it's very exciting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
