rhino 0 #1 September 12, 2005 I can't believe we turned down doctors for our own people. I'm ashamed of whomever made that decision. Downright ashamed!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #2 September 12, 2005 You for real bro? I wouldn't let one of them swarthy sons-of-bitches touch me anyhow! Get a grip!! J/K Rob. (but i am serious about the cuban doctors, i wouldn't let them touch me, i'd rather die)-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #3 September 12, 2005 Quote(but i am serious about the cuban doctors, i wouldn't let them touch me, i'd rather die) May I ask what would prompt you to make such a choice? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #4 September 12, 2005 QuoteMay I ask what would prompt you to make such a choice? No, you may not. It's a personal confidential decision i have made a long time ago. I will say it stems from a situation that had to do with one of my best friends from Canada years ago while we were overseas. Thanks for your courtesy.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #5 September 12, 2005 QuoteI can't believe we turned down doctors for our own people. I'm ashamed of whomever made that decision. Downright ashamed!! Huh? Where's your problem? At the time when my son was born, our doc was vom India, one of the 2 female nurses was black! And guess what: My son is absolutely normal and not black at all! You ever heard about how many medical students from outside countries, means aliens, go to the US, Europe (preferrably Germany) for their studies? So why to worry? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #6 September 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteMay I ask what would prompt you to make such a choice? No, you may not. It's a personal confidential decision i have made a long time ago. I will say it stems from a situation that had to do with one of my best friends from Canada years ago while we were overseas. Thanks for your courtesy. Fair enough. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #7 September 12, 2005 QuoteI can't believe we turned down doctors for our own people. I'm ashamed of whomever made that decision. Downright ashamed!! You're kidding...right? How could you account for the quality of care our people would get from Cuban trained doctors? Scary. I wouldn't trust them under the knife. Not at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #8 September 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteI can't believe we turned down doctors for our own people. I'm ashamed of whomever made that decision. Downright ashamed!! Huh? Where's your problem? At the time when my son was born, our doc was vom India, one of the 2 female nurses was black! And guess what: My son is absolutely normal and not black at all! You ever heard about how many medical students from outside countries, means aliens, go to the US, Europe (preferrably Germany) for their studies? So why to worry? I think you misread Rhino's post. I think he is shoked that the US turned down Cuba's offer to send doctors over to help out. That's how I read it anyway. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #9 September 12, 2005 >How could you account for the quality of care our people would get > from Cuban trained doctors? I know several people who have gone overseas for procedures rather than deal with US medical care. We can get pretty provincial at times. Denying our own disaster victims trained medical care because of our xenophobia is a symptom of a pretty serious problem we have in terms of how we see other countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #10 September 12, 2005 QuoteI think you misread Rhino's post. I think he is shoked that the US turned down Cuba's offer to send doctors over to help out. That's how I read it anyway. Bingo.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #11 September 12, 2005 Quote>How could you account for the quality of care our people would get > from Cuban trained doctors? I know several people who have gone overseas for procedures rather than deal with US medical care. We can get pretty provincial at times. Denying our own disaster victims trained medical care because of our xenophobia is a symptom of a pretty serious problem we have in terms of how we see other countries. Bill.....I know you like to argue...but...... Cuba.... One step up from 3rd world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quatorze 1 #12 September 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteMay I ask what would prompt you to make such a choice? No, you may not. It's a personal confidential decision i have made a long time ago. I will say it stems from a situation that had to do with one of my best friends from Canada years ago while we were overseas. Thanks for your courtesy. I think that he is implying that the are quacks, but you could argue that the murderer/revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guerrerra (sp) had his MD, but he was Argentenian I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #13 September 12, 2005 >Cuba.... >One step up from 3rd world. And Grenada is much better? Many of the US doctors you trust got their educations in places like Grenada, Saba, the Dominican Republic etc. So the question becomes - why is it OK for a doctor trained in a tiny school in Saba to treat hurricane victims, but not OK for a doctor trained in Cuba? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #14 September 12, 2005 QuoteQuote>How could you account for the quality of care our people would get > from Cuban trained doctors? I know several people who have gone overseas for procedures rather than deal with US medical care. We can get pretty provincial at times. Denying our own disaster victims trained medical care because of our xenophobia is a symptom of a pretty serious problem we have in terms of how we see other countries. Bill.....I know you like to argue...but...... Cuba.... One step up from 3rd world. True. However, it seems that there are some excellent doctors in Cuba. Same could be said about India, and many other developping countries. Their doctors tend to study medecine in some of the best universities around the world. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #15 September 12, 2005 Hey.... Let's get a few from Haiti. They can throw a few bones around in a bag and pour blood on your chest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #16 September 12, 2005 My wife trains doctors all over the world in emergency medicine. She actually goes to Cuba twice a year with US permission. It is usually not the quality of the physicans care that is the problem; it is the old, unreliable, or outdated equipment that is not up to current medical standards that is the problem. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #17 September 12, 2005 Merci pour "mettre en selle". Finally, the meaning behind it somehow will remain the same. Distrusting/refusing foreign medical aid ... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #18 September 12, 2005 >Let's get a few from Haiti. >They can throw a few bones around in a bag and pour blood on your chest. That's about as accurate as saying "Hey, let's get a few from Johns-Hopkins. They will successfully debride your wallet and leave you to die when their tee time comes up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #19 September 12, 2005 Should I draw a picture? TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #20 September 12, 2005 QuoteMy wife trains doctors all over the world in emergency medicine. She actually goes to Cuba twice a year with US permission. It is usually not the quality of the physicans care that is the problem; it is the old, unreliable, or outdated equipment that is not up to current medical standards that is the problem. That I could agree with. But their competence as doctors, I believe, should not be questioned as a group. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,114 #21 September 12, 2005 QuoteHey.... Let's get a few from Haiti. They can throw a few bones around in a bag and pour blood on your chest. You should read a few plays by Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides. Great for attitude improvement.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #22 September 12, 2005 Why, thats incredibly racist of you. Thank you for sharing. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #23 September 12, 2005 QuoteIt is usually not the quality of the physicans care that is the problem; it is the old, unreliable, or outdated equipment that is not up to current medical standards that is the problem. Bingo! But the antiquated equipment is not just there, it's all over the world. I've seen some places i wouldn't let them touch me. Damaam, Saudi Arabia is one of those places.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,556 #24 September 12, 2005 Jim, they're having a lovely discussion here -- no actual facts are needed, thank you very much, they'd much rather go along with what they already know about current medical practice in Cuba . Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #25 September 12, 2005 [sobbing] I'm sorry Wendy! I forgot...[/sobbing] Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
